Ulster Championship 2025

[Armagh18]

thought Gough was poor over all , Another  note  Do the commentators know the rules ?  Goalkeeper cannot take a pass in his own Half? THat was why the Armagh Goalkeeper didnt take the pass ?

Between that and calling Oisin Rian and saying Blaine got an all atar last year...

[marty34]

Definately a bad mistake by Gough on the Rafferty diving on the ball.  Very bad as it was at a crucial time with Tyrone going well.

I think even Armagh people would see it as a bad call.

However I think the key moment going down the stretch was Mc Kernan trying to take on Campbell along the endline and got turned over. It was silly as Mc Kernan was down a few mins before that - clearly shattered. Plus Campbell was only on and was fresh. He just had to keep ball and recycle it.

I always say big tight games are decided by good decision making in the final minutes when players are tired and are under pressure.

Armagh made good decisions in the last 5 mins. Fact. 

[Mourne Red]

thought Gough was poor over all , Another  note  Do the commentators know the rules ?  Goalkeeper cannot take a pass in his own Half? THat was why the Armagh Goalkeeper didnt take the pass ?

Between that and calling Oisin Rian and saying Blaine got an all atar last year...

I had to go check the Armagh line-up when they kept saying Rian O'Neill.. Confused me as I hadn't heard he was back.

Just commentators being dopes.. Agree about Gough, thought he was poor for both teams - few over carrying calls I thought were questionable

[5times5times]

Where was the famous Tyrone midfield?? Wiped out by a rookie and a mf who hasn't played all year.

Morgan nowhere near in same sphere as beggan patton and now rafferty.

Lying down & slabbering away, ye ain't in dungannon swifts now kid.

[Lamh Dhearg Alba]

Gough didn't have a great afternoon. Refs have an impossible task and are always going to make mistakes..but he had a few really poor ones. Ultimately though it's always too easy to blame the ref. Tyrone had the game in their hands in the closing stages and made some poor calls. Failing to pop the ball over the bar on their last two attacks was huge. Armagh on the other hand made all the right calls in those closing minutes and fair play to them.

But for all Tyrone didn't see it out and the issues on the kick out - where there is a lot of work to do - they came back admirably in the second half and a number of players stepped up. Among them McElhom, who came on and really impressed. Others still have much more to offer. I was wondering earlier where exactly Tyrone are. After watching that I'd say it's clearly an upward trajectory after two years of chaos and the potential is there to go much further. As such, plenty of positives in defeat, which certainly isn't something I'd have said after a 1 point Ulster semi final defeat in the old days

It was a cracking contest to watch too. Hopefully more of the same in the final and subsequent AI series.

[Truthsayer]

Where was the famous Tyrone midfield?? Wiped out by a rookie and a mf who hasn't played all year.

Morgan nowhere near in same sphere as beggan patton and now rafferty.

Lying down & slabbering away, ye ain't in dungannon swifts now kid.

Bizarre post slagging off a two time All Star & All Ireland winner... you don't like Morgan!

[tonto1888]

Gough didn't have a great afternoon. Refs have an impossible task and are always going to make mistakes..but he had a few really poor ones. Ultimately though it's always too easy to blame the ref. Tyrone had the game in their hands in the closing stages and made some poor calls. Failing to pop the ball over the bar on their last two attacks was huge. Armagh on the other hand made all the right calls in those closing minutes and fair play to them.

But for all Tyrone didn't see it out and the issues on the kick out - where there is a lot of work to do - they came back admirably in the second half and a number of players stepped up. Among them McElhom, who came on and really impressed. Others still have much more to offer. I was wondering earlier where exactly Tyrone are. After watching that I'd say it's clearly an upward trajectory after two years of chaos and the potential is there to go much further. As such, plenty of positives in defeat, which certainly isn't something I'd have said after a 1 point Ulster semi final defeat in the old days

It was a cracking contest to watch too. Hopefully more of the same in the final and subsequent AI series.

Tyrone have been a mess for a while so hard to expect MOR to change things straight away. Positive signs though

[screenexile]

Gough didn't have a great afternoon. Refs have an impossible task and are always going to make mistakes..but he had a few really poor ones. Ultimately though it's always too easy to blame the ref. Tyrone had the game in their hands in the closing stages and made some poor calls. Failing to pop the ball over the bar on their last two attacks was huge. Armagh on the other hand made all the right calls in those closing minutes and fair play to them.

But for all Tyrone didn't see it out and the issues on the kick out - where there is a lot of work to do - they came back admirably in the second half and a number of players stepped up. Among them McElhom, who came on and really impressed. Others still have much more to offer. I was wondering earlier where exactly Tyrone are. After watching that I'd say it's clearly an upward trajectory after two years of chaos and the potential is there to go much further. As such, plenty of positives in defeat, which certainly isn't something I'd have said after a 1 point Ulster semi final defeat in the old days

It was a cracking contest to watch too. Hopefully more of the same in the final and subsequent AI series.

Tyrone have been a mess for a while so hard to expect MOR to change things straight away. Positive signs though

I'd agree with that. From what I've seen O'Rourke teams stay in games and try to come strong at the end.

Tyrone were poor for long portions of the game but were well in touch and got ahead coming g down the stretch but they didn't finish as strong as Armagh and Morgan's kickouts were very poor when it counted.

Very little in it and I expect Tyrone to regroup and be a contender as things unfold.

[AustinPowers]

Ok - the Rafferty incident.....

Can the keeper touch the ball  at all in that instance? With head or  feet, say?

Could he stand in front  of the opponent, shielding the ball (without touching it)?

Surely shouldering the  Tyrone player is allowed?

[flowerpot]

What absolutely beautiful way for Armagh to win and Tyrone to lose a championship game.  Tyrone heads in Clones had themselves convinced they had the match won when 0-22 to 0-20 ahead with minutes to play however they head home and out of the Ulster championship with tails between their legs. 

Ironically if they meet again i would be far more confident they will win. Keep in touch with ai champs whole way even with 100% kickniut success for armagh

Just home this post made my day, keep her lit lad.

[Delgany 2nds]

Ok - the Rafferty incident.....

Can the keeper touch the ball  at all in that instance? With head or  feet, say?

Could he stand in front  of the opponent, shielding the ball (without touching it)?

Surely shouldering the  Tyrone player is allowed?

The GK can't accept a pass in his own half , other than in small rectangle.
Technical foul= free in, which Gough gave ! Buf he clearly tripped Canavan which is a black ! Which was an obvious mistake by Gough.

[David McKeown]

Tyrone no one to blame but themselves. Gough should have black carded armagh keeper but bottled it

Would like to see it again but he git the ball??

Doesnt matter. He either hit the ball and fouled it or threw himself on the ground to take out darragh. Either way its a black card and tyrone free

Or maybe it hit him in the chest and he never touched Darragh?

I'm not saying this is what happened. But it's a clearer explanation for what Gough saw than anything else.

No chance the replay showed he dived with both hands out and tripped Darragh

If not a black it should have been a free from where Rafferty touched the ball as it was a pass to him. Hard too see where the foul was in the last free, these couple of mistakes aside I thought Gough had a decent game.

It was a loose ball so he was entitled to go for it. He gets there first and the ball was off the ground. One of the few decisions I think Gough got correct today. I thought he had a terrible game.

[David McKeown]

Ok - the Rafferty incident.....

Can the keeper touch the ball  at all in that instance? With head or  feet, say?

Could he stand in front  of the opponent, shielding the ball (without touching it)?

Surely shouldering the  Tyrone player is allowed?

The GK can't accept a pass in his own half , other than in small rectangle.
Technical foul= free in, which Gough gave ! Buf he clearly tripped Canavan which is a black ! Which was an obvious mistake by Gough.

He can touch a loose ball. That ball had clearly gone loose and Gough correctly didn't give any free

[Mario]

Gough didn't have a great afternoon. Refs have an impossible task and are always going to make mistakes..but he had a few really poor ones. Ultimately though it's always too easy to blame the ref. Tyrone had the game in their hands in the closing stages and made some poor calls. Failing to pop the ball over the bar on their last two attacks was huge. Armagh on the other hand made all the right calls in those closing minutes and fair play to them.

But for all Tyrone didn't see it out and the issues on the kick out - where there is a lot of work to do - they came back admirably in the second half and a number of players stepped up. Among them McElhom, who came on and really impressed. Others still have much more to offer. I was wondering earlier where exactly Tyrone are. After watching that I'd say it's clearly an upward trajectory after two years of chaos and the potential is there to go much further. As such, plenty of positives in defeat, which certainly isn't something I'd have said after a 1 point Ulster semi final defeat in the old days

It was a cracking contest to watch too. Hopefully more of the same in the final and subsequent AI series.

Tyrone have been a mess for a while so hard to expect MOR to change things straight away. Positive signs though

They had a better league last year and had a similar performance in Ulster against a fancied team. I know no one likes to say a bad word about MOR but so far he's doing slightly worse than Dooher did last year

[tonto1888]

Ok - the Rafferty incident.....

Can the keeper touch the ball  at all in that instance? With head or  feet, say?

Could he stand in front  of the opponent, shielding the ball (without touching it)?

Surely shouldering the  Tyrone player is allowed?

The GK can't accept a pass in his own half , other than in small rectangle.
Technical foul= free in, which Gough gave ! Buf he clearly tripped Canavan which is a black ! Which was an obvious mistake by Gough.

He didn't clearly trip him at all