Ulster Championship 2025

[Stall the Bailer]

Could those saying Gough had a bad game list all the wrong decisions?

I thought he had a decent game apart from two calls. I couldn't see a foul in the last free, Peter Harte ran towards the player, no push, pull or shoulder from him, so what was it for?
Should have been a free at least for Rafferty touching the ball, if he did trip the Tyrone player or stop a goal chance for Tyrone then also a black (not sure on Gough's view for this and haven't seen a replay, so maybe a free only). Tyrone made more mistakes in game to make up for these and Armagh cool heads in the last few minutes mattered.

[Truthsayer]

Gough didn't have a great afternoon. Refs have an impossible task and are always going to make mistakes..but he had a few really poor ones. Ultimately though it's always too easy to blame the ref. Tyrone had the game in their hands in the closing stages and made some poor calls. Failing to pop the ball over the bar on their last two attacks was huge. Armagh on the other hand made all the right calls in those closing minutes and fair play to them.

But for all Tyrone didn't see it out and the issues on the kick out - where there is a lot of work to do - they came back admirably in the second half and a number of players stepped up. Among them McElhom, who came on and really impressed. Others still have much more to offer. I was wondering earlier where exactly Tyrone are. After watching that I'd say it's clearly an upward trajectory after two years of chaos and the potential is there to go much further. As such, plenty of positives in defeat, which certainly isn't something I'd have said after a 1 point Ulster semi final defeat in the old days

It was a cracking contest to watch too. Hopefully more of the same in the final and subsequent AI series.

Tyrone have been a mess for a while so hard to expect MOR to change things straight away. Positive signs though

They had a better league last year and had a similar performance in Ulster against a fancied team. I know no one likes to say a bad word about MOR but so far he's doing slightly worse than Dooher did last year

You do know they played the All Ireland champions today? 🤔

Yeah with half their team missing. They played Donegal last year who turned out to be Ulster champions beating the soon to be AI champions in the final

Gough didn't have a great afternoon. Refs have an impossible task and are always going to make mistakes..but he had a few really poor ones. Ultimately though it's always too easy to blame the ref. Tyrone had the game in their hands in the closing stages and made some poor calls. Failing to pop the ball over the bar on their last two attacks was huge. Armagh on the other hand made all the right calls in those closing minutes and fair play to them.

But for all Tyrone didn't see it out and the issues on the kick out - where there is a lot of work to do - they came back admirably in the second half and a number of players stepped up. Among them McElhom, who came on and really impressed. Others still have much more to offer. I was wondering earlier where exactly Tyrone are. After watching that I'd say it's clearly an upward trajectory after two years of chaos and the potential is there to go much further. As such, plenty of positives in defeat, which certainly isn't something I'd have said after a 1 point Ulster semi final defeat in the old days

It was a cracking contest to watch too. Hopefully more of the same in the final and subsequent AI series.

Tyrone have been a mess for a while so hard to expect MOR to change things straight away. Positive signs though

They had a better league last year and had a similar performance in Ulster against a fancied team. I know no one likes to say a bad word about MOR but so far he's doing slightly worse than Dooher did last year

You do know they played the All Ireland champions today? 🤔

Yeah with half their team missing. They played Donegal last year who turned out to be Ulster champions beating the soon to be AI champions in the final

Beaten by the All Ireland champions by 1 point.. am I wrong?

[GTP]

The Rafferty incident looked a black card for a trip. Tyrone made too many mistakes in the forward line turning ball over.
Did either keeper make a save?

[Solo_run]

Anyone clarify why Gough blew his whistle to stop the game, give Morgan a yellow card but allowed Tyrone to keep possession and continue their attack? Surely this would result in a loss of possession? Surely he could have allowed for the end of the play and return to give a yellow?

[Mourne Red]

Anyone clarify why Gough blew his whistle to stop the game, give Morgan a yellow card but allowed Tyrone to keep possession and continue their attack? Surely this would result in a loss of possession? Surely he could have allowed for the end of the play and return to give a yellow?

I couldn't understand that one either.. need our in-house referee to explain that

[flowerpot]

Anyone clarify why Gough blew his whistle to stop the game, give Morgan a yellow card but allowed Tyrone to keep possession and continue their attack? Surely this would result in a loss of possession? Surely he could have allowed for the end of the play and return to give a yellow?

I thought Tyrone got a free and he then went back, no?

[Mario]

Beaten by the All Ireland champions by 1 point.. am I wrong?

You aren't wrong. My point is they also had a good performance last year in Ulster Vs Donegal who are of a similar level to Armagh but they didn't get relegated from the league under Dooher. I don't think at this point you can say there has been much improvement Vs Dooher.

[Main Street]

The decision I wondered about was to blow the whistle before the "goal" was scored around 55th minute and not allow an obvious clear advantage in front of goal for Tyrone

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Beaten by the All Ireland champions by 1 point.. am I wrong?

You aren't wrong. My point is they also had a good performance last year in Ulster Vs Donegal who are of a similar level to Armagh but they didn't get relegated from the league under Dooher. I don't think at this point you can say there has been much improvement Vs Dooher.

They got more points in the league this than Dooher last year though.

Dublin beat them in the league by 21 too.

[Armamike]

Armagh have not been the best team in Ulster since 2008. It seems this might finally be their year.

Haven't been the best penalty takers since 2023.

[Truthsayer]

Beaten by the All Ireland champions by 1 point.. am I wrong?

You aren't wrong. My point is they also had a good performance last year in Ulster Vs Donegal who are of a similar level to Armagh but they didn't get relegated from the league under Dooher. I don't think at this point you can say there has been much improvement Vs Dooher.

They were totally lost by the end of last years championship... beaten at home by Roscommon and players seemed relieved it was over. Should they get rid of O'Rourke and get Dooher back for more of that?

[GTP]

The decision I wondered about was to blow the whistle before the "goal" was scored around 55th minute and not allow an obvious clear advantage in front of goal for Tyrone

Wasn't much discussion on commentary on this. The whistle went well before the "goal" so impossible to tell if it would have resulted from an advantage. Could have been stopped because of a foul by the Tyrone forward or just a bad application of the advantage rule we will probably never know.

[ONeill]

Armagh the better side but didn't put Tyrone away. Not sure why they didn't.

[Orior]

As O'Neill said, Tyrone probably subdued by the Pope's funeral. Having said that, they're not bad for a Division 2 team.

Bit of a rollercoaster ride. Thought we didn't have a big enough lead at half time, impressed by Armagh's start to the second half, thought we'd lost it when we went two points down, then a great one point win.

[Armamike]

Armagh the better side but didn't put Tyrone away. Not sure why they didn't.

Good point. Thought we were going to run away with it 15 mins into the second half, but Tyrone got back into it without playing overly great.