Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[trileacman]

Also banning keepers from getting involved in attacks out of defence is incredibly harsh. A keeper should be allowed to get involved if it's in an attacking move up the pitch. So if he takes a 1-2 bursting forward or a handpass that sends him forward into lots of space it should be allowed. I wouldn't allow teams to recycle the ball back to a keeper but if teams are willing to take the risk and reward of advancing the keeper ahead of the ball it should be punished.

[tonto1888]

I do like most of the rules changes. 2 points for a free though is one which should go IMO

[03,05,08]

I do like most of the rules changes. 2 points for a free though is one which should go IMO
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I do like most of the rules changes. 2 points for a free though is one which should go IMO

It has to stay as long as the 2 pointer is there or else it rewards fouling a good 2 point shooter outside the arc.

[Captain Scarlet]

Tap and go is great.
The 4 up top is good too.

All the giving out over the 50m but players just got in with it and no shite with lads 'falling' on a player after a free or any wrestling going on.

On the fence about 2 pointer in general.

[Milltown Row2]

I do like most of the rules changes. 2 points for a free though is one which should go IMO

I think two points should stand but only for dissent, not for breaching the halfway line. Tap and go is good, black card for those entering a melee good, redefining the black card to include holding a player up will be difficult when sometimes its multiple players doing that in a player. Who gets the card, that will cause some gurning..

Still too many balls ups at the 4v3 rule at club level, either its not been seen or called incorrectly which drives frustration up for everyone, Club level we don't use the hooter or final play as it doesn't come into play. The timing is still done the 'old' way as is finishing the game

[thewobbler]

I do like most of the rules changes. 2 points for a free though is one which should go IMO

I think two points should stand but only for dissent, not for breaching the halfway line. Tap and go is good, black card for those entering a melee good, redefining the black card to include holding a player up will be difficult when sometimes its multiple players doing that in a player. Who gets the card, that will cause some gurning..

Still too many balls ups at the 4v3 rule at club level, either its not been seen or called incorrectly which drives frustration up for everyone, Club level we don't use the hooter or final play as it doesn't come into play. The timing is still done the 'old' way as is finishing the game

I do think people are taking the 4 v 3 too literally.

It'll take a few seasons for this to seep through I'd expect, but the rule hasn't been designed to punish minor indiscretions by inactive players. It has been designed to a) stop teams flooding defenders behind the ball, b) provide forward options for kick passing.

I'd suggest if referees only glance behind for a quick headcount when there's been a turnover or a shot, that's all is needed.

[Saffron_sam20]

I do like most of the rules changes. 2 points for a free though is one which should go IMO

I think two points should stand but only for dissent, not for breaching the halfway line. Tap and go is good, black card for those entering a melee good, redefining the black card to include holding a player up will be difficult when sometimes its multiple players doing that in a player. Who gets the card, that will cause some gurning..

Still too many balls ups at the 4v3 rule at club level, either its not been seen or called incorrectly which drives frustration up for everyone, Club level we don't use the hooter or final play as it doesn't come into play. The timing is still done the 'old' way as is finishing the game

I do think people are taking the 4 v 3 too literally.

It'll take a few seasons for this to seep through I'd expect, but the rule hasn't been designed to punish minor indiscretions by inactive players. It has been designed to a) stop teams flooding defenders behind the ball, b) provide forward options for kick passing.

I'd suggest if referees only glance behind for a quick headcount when there's been a turnover or a shot, that's all is needed.

Yeah the theory is good but shouldn't have a game stopped because a fella crosses the line, i think as long as there is only 11 v 12 actually involved in the play it shouldn't matter, bit like soccer with offside and the interfering with play concept. It's a joke a team attacking gets called a free against because one of their players crossed the half way line yet aren't involved in the phase of play.

The solo and go is good but refs too inconsistent with it at the min and players seem to get too far as an advantage.

[GTP]

All rules relating to the 40m arc should go - the two pointer would be relevant against a blanket defence of 15 since it would in hoery mean teams have to push out to stop the threat, as it stands, it encourages play along the 45 to set up a shooter and discourages quick balls into scoring positions be they for points or goals. The enforced long kick out helps pin teams back if they can't get possession meaning a game can get one-sideed (in periods or throughout). And both rules mean that weather conditions play a far bigger part in a match than they should for any sport.

[Saffron_sam20]

All rules relating to the 40m arc should go - the two pointer would be relevant against a blanket defence of 15 since it would in hoery mean teams have to push out to stop the threat, as it stands, it encourages play along the 45 to set up a shooter and discourages quick balls into scoring positions be they for points or goals. The enforced long kick out helps pin teams back if they can't get possession meaning a game can get one-sideed (in periods or throughout). And both rules mean that weather conditions play a far bigger part in a match than they should for any sport.

Agree, with the 3 up the more space really does away with the need for the 2pt as you say wind will be a disaster. Keep the 3 up, the solo and go and if they must the 1v1 throw in and that's it.

[Rossfan]

Are there any more proposals for tweaks, or is that it now until the Special Congress?

I'm for abolishing the 2 pointer ever since they dropped the 4 point goal.

[statto]

Are there any more proposals for tweaks, or is that it now until the Special Congress?

I'm for abolishing the 2 pointer ever since they dropped the 4 point goal.

Interesting that the 4 pointer was dropped after the inter provincials as would result in hammerings for a few teams, yet a game can get away from another playing against the elements as the kickouts favour the attacking team with the arc and can get hammered by two pointers.  Would be in favour of two pointer going also. 

[AustinPowers]

The 2 pointer is here to stay. That's one rule  they ain't for budging on , unfortunately .

I bloody hate it

[clonian]

Our lads had their first challenge games at 14 & 16s this weekend and the 40m arc caused a lot of problems with kick outs for both teams at both levels. Cuts so much space out of the game - the bigger team has a massive advantage. Not many 2 pointers to worry about at that level.

Most of the other rules were fine though

[The Trap]

Agree to removal of arc at both ends. No 2 point scores and more variety of kick out.
Would like to see a competitive game played with the arc removed and everything else staying.

[JoG2]

Agree to removal of arc at both ends. No 2 point scores and more variety of kick out.
Would like to see a competitive game played with the arc removed and everything else staying.

Would agree 100%