Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[oakleafgael]

A question for any referee on here.
We had an u14 game at the weekend in a development league, mostly P7s on our team. We struggled getting kickouts aways with distance being a problem for young lads playing for the first time on a full sized pitch. The ref then informed us that provided the ball travels 15m and we have no-one in the arc when the ball is kicked, that we can receive the ball in the arc - in other words players can run into the arc as soon as the ball is kicked to receive the ball.
Is this correct? In our first game we were blew up any time a player touched the ball inside the arc from the kickout so its confusing.

Which arc are you referring to? The 13m or 40m?

[tbrick18]

A question for any referee on here.
We had an u14 game at the weekend in a development league, mostly P7s on our team. We struggled getting kickouts aways with distance being a problem for young lads playing for the first time on a full sized pitch. The ref then informed us that provided the ball travels 15m and we have no-one in the arc when the ball is kicked, that we can receive the ball in the arc - in other words players can run into the arc as soon as the ball is kicked to receive the ball.
Is this correct? In our first game we were blew up any time a player touched the ball inside the arc from the kickout so its confusing.

Which arc are you referring to? The 13m or 40m?

The 40m arc.

[oakleafgael]

Neither referee is correct on this. You do not need to be outside the 40m arc for kickouts, nor does the ball need to travel outside the 40m arc before the ball can be touched by the team taking the kickout.

The ball must be kicked from the centre of the 20m line and travel forwards 13m. ie it cant be touched inside the 13 arc/D.

The only difference from the old rules is that players from either team may remain inside the 20m line but cannot touch the ball and must be 13m from the player taking the restart.

Before anyone jumps on this, these are U14 rules set by a particular county. Each county has the power to set their own for underage.

[JPO]

Brennan is only partly correct. However given how unwatchable football has been for years now any change is welcome. He mentions the  rugby type scums in the middle of the field after kickouts. May I suggest he and all other managers teach their players how to field a high ball? Or even how to jump for a high ball? Begin teaching all underage players how to as well instead of all the modern "tactics" these coaches have been poisoning our game with for years.     

[Milltown Row2]

It's all good fielding a high ball but the minute that guy drops he's surrounded and done for over carrying generally

[Louther]

Assuming this high fielding on a kick out? He still has his Mark to avoid been surrounded and over carrying?

[Rossfan]

That was why the kick out mark was brought in.

[Milltown Row2]

Assuming this high fielding on a kick out? He still has his Mark to avoid been surrounded and over carrying?

That's true

[Wildweasel74]

Is there more high fielding? Doesn't seem like it,maybe 1 game like Derry v Kerry game, but in General it's like a rugby line out with up to 6/7 going up to just break a ball.

[PMG1]

A question for any referee on here.
We had an u14 game at the weekend in a development league, mostly P7s on our team. We struggled getting kickouts aways with distance being a problem for young lads playing for the first time on a full sized pitch. The ref then informed us that provided the ball travels 15m and we have no-one in the arc when the ball is kicked, that we can receive the ball in the arc - in other words players can run into the arc as soon as the ball is kicked to receive the ball.
Is this correct? In our first game we were blew up any time a player touched the ball inside the arc from the kickout so its confusing.

In Tyrone and I presume for most other counties at U14 level the kickout rule is the same as last year, I.e. taken from the 21, all players must be outside the 13m arc and the defending team cannot touch the ball until it is outside the 20m arc

[EoinW]

Managers crying about rules and the game, should have a bit of self reflection and see where they have taken the game over the last 20 years. You hear them talk about control and that's what they miss. Controlling the life of the game and the players on the pitch.

Much more enjoyable to watch and games have lots of action. A lead doesn't seem out of reach, due to the scoring but also cause the team with the lead can't control and slow the game as they use to. In fact, it's dangerous for them to take foot off the gas as they struggle to get a foothold again.

Few minor things can be tided up like the hooter, maybe a throw up for the 20 second breach etc.

The dissent rule has certainly helped at inter county, never seen any balls moved up 50m over weekend.

At club game at weekend and was no drama with 3 up, 3 back rule, ref said it's ok to patrol.

This is an excellent point.  Thank you.  As a traditionalist, I naturally have felt threatened by so many changes.  It has become a trend, in so many sports, for coaches/managers to try to control all,  Certainly in contrast to the old days of throwing a ball onto the pitch and letting the players go at it.

To offer a unique Canadian perspective, as a box lacrosse fan, I watched a highly individualistic game suffocated around the turn of the century by coaches micro managing everything.  The sport has never recovered.

In light of that, I'll be more openminded about the rule changes.  I might even get used to the chaotic pace, which has disturbed my comfort zone.

I still think the 2 pointer is a bad idea(the comment about turning the game into basketball isn't unfair).  I'm also concerned about how disadvantaged teams are when they have the kickout. I hope alterations can be made to help them a bit.

[thebigfullforward]

A question for any referee on here.
We had an u14 game at the weekend in a development league, mostly P7s on our team. We struggled getting kickouts aways with distance being a problem for young lads playing for the first time on a full sized pitch. The ref then informed us that provided the ball travels 15m and we have no-one in the arc when the ball is kicked, that we can receive the ball in the arc - in other words players can run into the arc as soon as the ball is kicked to receive the ball.
Is this correct? In our first game we were blew up any time a player touched the ball inside the arc from the kickout so its confusing.

In Tyrone and I presume for most other counties at U14 level the kickout rule is the same as last year, I.e. taken from the 21, all players must be outside the 13m arc and the defending team cannot touch the ball until it is outside the 20m arc

Is this the case throughout underage? Was at a game at the weekend and the opposition team left a forward standing behind the keeper on every kickout. Granted it was a tanking match so maybe the ref didn't care to much

[Milltown Row2]

A question for any referee on here.
We had an u14 game at the weekend in a development league, mostly P7s on our team. We struggled getting kickouts aways with distance being a problem for young lads playing for the first time on a full sized pitch. The ref then informed us that provided the ball travels 15m and we have no-one in the arc when the ball is kicked, that we can receive the ball in the arc - in other words players can run into the arc as soon as the ball is kicked to receive the ball.
Is this correct? In our first game we were blew up any time a player touched the ball inside the arc from the kickout so its confusing.

In Tyrone and I presume for most other counties at U14 level the kickout rule is the same as last year, I.e. taken from the 21, all players must be outside the 13m arc and the defending team cannot touch the ball until it is outside the 20m arc

Is this the case throughout underage? Was at a game at the weekend and the opposition team left a forward standing behind the keeper on every kickout. Granted it was a tanking match so maybe the ref didn't care to much

I think senior teams from the games I've done are missing a trick on this, I'd leave a player right in there to potentially pick up a quick pass from a ball won out on the 45 from a kickout

[Rossfan]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41586070.html

[oakleafgael]

A question for any referee on here.
We had an u14 game at the weekend in a development league, mostly P7s on our team. We struggled getting kickouts aways with distance being a problem for young lads playing for the first time on a full sized pitch. The ref then informed us that provided the ball travels 15m and we have no-one in the arc when the ball is kicked, that we can receive the ball in the arc - in other words players can run into the arc as soon as the ball is kicked to receive the ball.
Is this correct? In our first game we were blew up any time a player touched the ball inside the arc from the kickout so its confusing.

In Tyrone and I presume for most other counties at U14 level the kickout rule is the same as last year, I.e. taken from the 21, all players must be outside the 13m arc and the defending team cannot touch the ball until it is outside the 20m arc

The rules I explained are the rules in Tyrone as I think that's where tbrick's lad plays. What do you mean by the 20m arc?