Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[Blowitupref]

From the Irish Examiner

Central Council are expected to be charged with endorsing an amendment or two to the new football rules, following Football Review Committee (FRC) meetings over the coming days.
The question is when they will come into force – for the final two rounds of the league on March 15/16 and 22/23 or the start of the provincial championships.
And the other question - what may they be?



Black and red cards.

In Pomeroy, Tyrone managed with the help of a couple of Michael McKernan two-pointers to outscore Kerry 0-4 to 0-1 for the first-half period while Eoin McElholm was in the sin bin for a black card.
In the second half, Tyrone failed to score for the combined 13 minutes Joe O'Connor and David Clifford were off the field while Dylan Casey scored a point for Kerry. With Clifford yet to return to the fray, Paul Geaney converted a free.
In other instances like Galway v Donegal later that afternoon aswell as Mayo v Armagh and Cavan v Westmeath, teams that were supposed to be numerically disadvantaged were compensated by not having to keep as many players in the opposition's half.

A day after Jim McGuinness described the circumstances that led to that anomaly in Salthill as "farcical", FRC member Éamonn Fitzmaurice admitted it's an area they have to address.
The body might simply insist teams have to abide by the three-up rule at all times. That would re-enforce the need for discipline but it may lend to more lopsided results, which is the very reason why they jettisoned the increase of a goal to four points.
Allowing the team with more players to simply mirror what the opposition is doing and drop back a player into their own half could solve the issue.
Whatever about a red card, there's the alternative of returning the black card to an automatic replacement thereby ensuring there is numerical parity. That could also allow them to increase the number of substitutes to six as was the case before the sin bin was introduced in 2020.

Although data has yet to show that the game is more demanding, managers have been calling for more interchanges.
Expectation: Change on the way.

12 v 11.

The overload being created by advanced goalkeepers is the bane of managers. We can count five who have at some stage or another complained about them – Ger Brennan, John Cleary, Dessie Farrell, Dermot McCabe and Paddy Tally.
The advantage given to those teams with keepers who are comfortable heading up the field is obvious but the risks are clear too. Shane Ryan was almost caught in no man's land last weekend and in better weather we could see more goals scored on the break as netminders scurry back to the literal and metaphorical posts.

At the same time, the extra player sure comes in handy in retaining the football and killing the clock.
It may just be that the FRC either restricts goalkeepers to kick-passing beyond the halfway line or prohibits them from crossing it in open play but compensating for that by allowing them to take and make passes from anywhere inside their own half to see if that helps but that could have drawbacks too.

Expectation: An amendment is likely.


Kick-outs.

Seeing as the longer restarts have added to the amount of contests and there is genuine excitement and expectation about their outcome, the FRC may be reluctant to take their former member Malachy O'Rourke's advice and relax the kick-out length from clearing the 40-metre arc to the "D".

O'Rourke might be drowned out on this one but the FRC will want to see the amount of kick-out marks claimed and breaking ball compared with last season.

Expectation: Too early to call.


Clock/hooter.
It appears the FRC are going to persevere with the technology for the moment even though it counts up rather than down as was envisaged and it doesn't have the full support of the Central Competitions Control Committee.
There has been plenty of dramatic finishes where clock/hooters have been involved but the "negative possession" argument against it has also been underlined by teams playing keep-ball knowing what remains on the clock.

Expectation: Nothing just yet.


50-metre penalty.
Referees at inter-county level at least are feeling more empowered because of the new disciplinary rules but some match officials' interpretations of players not handing the ball back to opponents or delaying the play could be questioned.
It was they who wanted the 50m advancement, the FRC suggested 30m. The severity of the punishment could become more of a deterrent than a reality but infringing players in future might be allowed to drop, roll or throw the ball instead of having to hand it to their opponent.

Expectation: A tweak but maybe before championship.

[Rossfan]

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[Armagh18]

Solo and go is a great rule but 8m is ridiculous.

[Armagh18]

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On the advanced mark- if thr player has a clear advantage but puts the ball wide/shot is saved/blocked, is it still taken back for the mark?

[JoG2]

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On the advanced mark- if thr player has a clear advantage but puts the ball wide/shot is saved/blocked, is it still taken back for the mark?

It's on the ref now to call it rather than the original / new advanced mark rule

[Main Street]

The advanced mark should've been dropped altogether and now this advanced mark advantage is adding complication to the nonsense.

[Milltown Row2]

https://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/335292

On the advanced mark- if thr player has a clear advantage but puts the ball wide/shot is saved/blocked, is it still taken back for the mark?

It's on the ref now to call it rather than the original / new advanced mark rule

I'm lost, I've actually a sore head trying to work out one rule from the next, probably piss off Duffel here but leagues start next weekend and the chopping and changing from the original rules to the amendments to now this is bonkers. Think I'll drop football stick with the hurling and camogie and maybe start ladies football until it changes

[David McKeown]

Solo and go is a great rule but 8m is ridiculous.

Why would you solo within 4m now reducing your own advantage.

[ClubScene13]

I'm open minded to most of the rules but the advanced mark is a total non-event. They probably think they're better to encourage the kick inside than to not encourage it, but it's having little to no impact

[Milltown Row2]

Solo and go is a great rule but 8m is ridiculous.

Why would you solo within 4m now reducing your own advantage.

It's a bit confusing, if a player takes 4 meters from where the free took place and solo and goes I bring it back for a hop ball as he never took it from place of foul?

[GTP]

I read it as you can take a solo and go within 4m. If you are outside the 4m it goes back for a conventional free to the same team.
I am sure we will find out at the weekend when everyone including referees will definitely know what the rules are.

[statto]

I'm open minded to most of the rules but the advanced mark is a total non-event. They probably think they're better to encourage the kick inside than to not encourage it, but it's having little to no impact

If a player has a good kick from  outside 45 yards he be as well trying to take a shot a goal for two points than rely on kicking it inside for an advanced mark.

[TwoUpTwoDown]

I read it as you can take a solo and go within 4m. If you are outside the 4m it goes back for a conventional free to the same team.
I am sure we will find out at the weekend when everyone including referees will definitely know what the rules are.

You can pass the ball to someone when fouled to take solo and go. This has to be within 4 metres. He can then take 4 metres before having a solo. So taking them potentially 8m up the field without contact, mental rule.

[Ball Hopper]

My reading is that if a player is fouled and his momentum takes him a bit away from the foul, or he's a bit away from the exact spot of the foul when the ball is returned to him, then he can solo and go as long he is within 4m of the exact foul location.  He can travel 4m after the solo before being tackled.

If he is more than 4m from the exact foul location, a conventional free is taken, with no solo and go option - if he solos beyond the 4m of the exact foul location, hop ball.

[Milltown Row2]

My reading is that if a player is fouled and his momentum takes him a bit away from the foul, or he's a bit away from the exact spot of the foul when the ball is returned to him, then he can solo and go as long he is within 4m of the exact foul location.  He can travel 4m after the solo before being tackled.

If he is more than 4m from the exact foul location, a conventional free is taken, with no solo and go option - if he solos beyond the 4m of the exact foul location, hop ball.

Are we giving people permission to take the 'free' 4 meters from the actual spot of foul?