Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

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Milltown Row2

Quote from: DuffleKing on February 24, 2025, 01:25:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 12:40:05 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 24, 2025, 12:34:53 PMHaving now read I'm a little clearer on the rules.

I didn't realise for example that if you breach the 3v3 rule in an attempt to win the ball the punishment is a free on half way but if you accidentally do it it's a free on the 20m line.

I'm glad to see the advantage rule has been changed to remove the absurdity that if you fouled the ball during your advantage it cancelled the advantage and resulted in a free the other way.

I didn't know that causing injury to a player is now a straight red even if there is no force.

Indicating a free but then solo and going is a free the other way so although the referee the other day was criticised he may have been correct.

The 3v3 rule if a player has accidently through momentum broke the halfway line, its a free from that spot rather than the 50m free shot, if two players happen to cross the line together to contest the ball its a hop ball? or has it changed? It's hard to keep up with the amendments lol

Not the punishment

So I've said if they break the line its a free from that spot, if the two players come across together its a hop ball?

Rather than the 50meter penalty of bringing the ball to the 21?

If a defending team drops too many players back and fails to leave three up in their forward line, the penalty is a 20-metre free to the opposition.
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Milltown Row2

So read one there saying it the large rectangle when the keeper and defender can pass the ball to each other if the ball was played in from the opposition, initially I thought it was the small square...

Can they pass it among themselves as much as they want in the large rectangle ?
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David McKeown

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 01:53:08 PMSo read one there saying it the large rectangle when the keeper and defender can pass the ball to each other if the ball was played in from the opposition, initially I thought it was the small square...

Can they pass it among themselves as much as they want in the large rectangle ?

Seems that way
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Main Street

When there's a working hooter in the stadium, the ref signals (to whomever) when the clock should be stopped and restarted during breaks in play,  does that affect the black card 10 minutes long time out?  The ref signaled for the clock to stopped in the Tyrone Kerry game (Kerry player down) while Clifford was serving his time. Was Clifford's black card clock also stopped?

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Apols if this was already discussed.
On Saturday evening, Armagh were able to score from a sideline ball after the hooter had gone for the end of the fist halk.
Whilst on Sunday, Donegal were not allowed to take their sideline ball after the hooter went for the end of the match. It wouldn't have affected the result of course.
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Cavan19

Quote from: Main Street on February 24, 2025, 02:43:47 PMWhen there's a working hooter in the stadium, the ref signals (to whomever) when the clock should be stopped and restarted during breaks in play,  does that affect the black card 10 minutes long time out?  The ref signaled for the clock to stopped in the Tyrone Kerry game (Kerry player down) while Clifford was serving his time. Was Clifford's black card clock also stopped?

It's 10 minutes of time not 10 minutes on the stadium clock going by what happened in Mullingar yesterday. Black card for Cavan player in last 10 minutes and he was back on for the last 2 or 3 minutes.  It doesn't really make sence that one either.

on the sideline

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 01:53:08 PMSo read one there saying it the large rectangle when the keeper and defender can pass the ball to each other if the ball was played in from the opposition, initially I thought it was the small square...

Can they pass it among themselves as much as they want in the large rectangle ?

No. Once the keeper passes it in his own half he can't touch it again until he crosses half way line.

DuffleKing

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 01:38:27 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 24, 2025, 01:25:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 12:40:05 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 24, 2025, 12:34:53 PMHaving now read I'm a little clearer on the rules.

I didn't realise for example that if you breach the 3v3 rule in an attempt to win the ball the punishment is a free on half way but if you accidentally do it it's a free on the 20m line.

I'm glad to see the advantage rule has been changed to remove the absurdity that if you fouled the ball during your advantage it cancelled the advantage and resulted in a free the other way.

I didn't know that causing injury to a player is now a straight red even if there is no force.

Indicating a free but then solo and going is a free the other way so although the referee the other day was criticised he may have been correct.

The 3v3 rule if a player has accidently through momentum broke the halfway line, its a free from that spot rather than the 50m free shot, if two players happen to cross the line together to contest the ball its a hop ball? or has it changed? It's hard to keep up with the amendments lol

Not the punishment

So I've said if they break the line its a free from that spot, if the two players come across together its a hop ball?

Rather than the 50meter penalty of bringing the ball to the 21?

If a defending team drops too many players back and fails to leave three up in their forward line, the penalty is a 20-metre free to the opposition.

That would have been closer to accurate - still not - if you'd said that.

You said it was a "50m free shot".

David McKeown

Quote from: Main Street on February 24, 2025, 02:43:47 PMWhen there's a working hooter in the stadium, the ref signals (to whomever) when the clock should be stopped and restarted during breaks in play,  does that affect the black card 10 minutes long time out?  The ref signaled for the clock to stopped in the Tyrone Kerry game (Kerry player down) while Clifford was serving his time. Was Clifford's black card clock also stopped?

Grimleys was stopped on Saturday night. It would have to be stopped otherwise half time would have to count.
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Milltown Row2

Quote from: DuffleKing on February 24, 2025, 04:27:30 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 01:38:27 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on February 24, 2025, 01:25:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 12:40:05 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 24, 2025, 12:34:53 PMHaving now read I'm a little clearer on the rules.

I didn't realise for example that if you breach the 3v3 rule in an attempt to win the ball the punishment is a free on half way but if you accidentally do it it's a free on the 20m line.

I'm glad to see the advantage rule has been changed to remove the absurdity that if you fouled the ball during your advantage it cancelled the advantage and resulted in a free the other way.

I didn't know that causing injury to a player is now a straight red even if there is no force.

Indicating a free but then solo and going is a free the other way so although the referee the other day was criticised he may have been correct.

The 3v3 rule if a player has accidently through momentum broke the halfway line, its a free from that spot rather than the 50m free shot, if two players happen to cross the line together to contest the ball its a hop ball? or has it changed? It's hard to keep up with the amendments lol

Not the punishment

So I've said if they break the line its a free from that spot, if the two players come across together its a hop ball?

Rather than the 50meter penalty of bringing the ball to the 21?

If a defending team drops too many players back and fails to leave three up in their forward line, the penalty is a 20-metre free to the opposition.

That would have been closer to accurate - still not - if you'd said that.

You said it was a "50m free shot".

My bad
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Milltown Row2

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Quote from: Cavan19 on February 24, 2025, 02:53:01 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 24, 2025, 02:43:47 PMWhen there's a working hooter in the stadium, the ref signals (to whomever) when the clock should be stopped and restarted during breaks in play,  does that affect the black card 10 minutes long time out?  The ref signaled for the clock to stopped in the Tyrone Kerry game (Kerry player down) while Clifford was serving his time. Was Clifford's black card clock also stopped?

It's 10 minutes of time not 10 minutes on the stadium clock going by what happened in Mullingar yesterday. Black card for Cavan player in last 10 minutes and he was back on for the last 2 or 3 minutes.  It doesn't really make sence that one either.

But the black card ran like that in old rules, player injured time stopped but black card time didn't
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

David McKeown

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 05:37:32 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 24, 2025, 02:53:01 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 24, 2025, 02:43:47 PMWhen there's a working hooter in the stadium, the ref signals (to whomever) when the clock should be stopped and restarted during breaks in play,  does that affect the black card 10 minutes long time out?  The ref signaled for the clock to stopped in the Tyrone Kerry game (Kerry player down) while Clifford was serving his time. Was Clifford's black card clock also stopped?

It's 10 minutes of time not 10 minutes on the stadium clock going by what happened in Mullingar yesterday. Black card for Cavan player in last 10 minutes and he was back on for the last 2 or 3 minutes.  It doesn't really make sence that one either.

But the black card ran like that in old rules, player injured time stopped but black card time didn't

Did time officially stop under the old rules?  I thought it was more that was short hand for "I am adding all this time on at the end"

Grimley was off the pitch for near 13 actual minutes on Saturday night
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Main Street

Quote from: David McKeown on February 24, 2025, 06:43:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 05:37:32 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 24, 2025, 02:53:01 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 24, 2025, 02:43:47 PMWhen there's a working hooter in the stadium, the ref signals (to whomever) when the clock should be stopped and restarted during breaks in play,  does that affect the black card 10 minutes long time out?  The ref signaled for the clock to stopped in the Tyrone Kerry game (Kerry player down) while Clifford was serving his time. Was Clifford's black card clock also stopped?

It's 10 minutes of time not 10 minutes on the stadium clock going by what happened in Mullingar yesterday. Black card for Cavan player in last 10 minutes and he was back on for the last 2 or 3 minutes.  It doesn't really make sence that one either.

But the black card ran like that in old rules, player injured time stopped but black card time didn't

Did time officially stop under the old rules?  I thought it was more that was short hand for "I am adding all this time on at the end"

Grimley was off the pitch for near 13 actual minutes on Saturday night
Now that the ref can stop the clock it's an opportunity to align the black card clock to the game clock.

David McKeown

Quote from: Main Street on February 24, 2025, 07:02:29 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 24, 2025, 06:43:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 05:37:32 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 24, 2025, 02:53:01 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 24, 2025, 02:43:47 PMWhen there's a working hooter in the stadium, the ref signals (to whomever) when the clock should be stopped and restarted during breaks in play,  does that affect the black card 10 minutes long time out?  The ref signaled for the clock to stopped in the Tyrone Kerry game (Kerry player down) while Clifford was serving his time. Was Clifford's black card clock also stopped?

It's 10 minutes of time not 10 minutes on the stadium clock going by what happened in Mullingar yesterday. Black card for Cavan player in last 10 minutes and he was back on for the last 2 or 3 minutes.  It doesn't really make sence that one either.

But the black card ran like that in old rules, player injured time stopped but black card time didn't

Did time officially stop under the old rules?  I thought it was more that was short hand for "I am adding all this time on at the end"

Grimley was off the pitch for near 13 actual minutes on Saturday night
Now that the ref can stop the clock it's an opportunity to align the black card clock to the game clock.

I thought it had.  It certainly seemed to in the Armagh v Mayo match on Saturday night
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Main Street

Quote from: David McKeown on February 24, 2025, 07:31:16 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 24, 2025, 07:02:29 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 24, 2025, 06:43:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 24, 2025, 05:37:32 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on February 24, 2025, 02:53:01 PM
Quote from: Main Street on February 24, 2025, 02:43:47 PMWhen there's a working hooter in the stadium, the ref signals (to whomever) when the clock should be stopped and restarted during breaks in play,  does that affect the black card 10 minutes long time out?  The ref signaled for the clock to stopped in the Tyrone Kerry game (Kerry player down) while Clifford was serving his time. Was Clifford's black card clock also stopped?

It's 10 minutes of time not 10 minutes on the stadium clock going by what happened in Mullingar yesterday. Black card for Cavan player in last 10 minutes and he was back on for the last 2 or 3 minutes.  It doesn't really make sence that one either.

But the black card ran like that in old rules, player injured time stopped but black card time didn't

Did time officially stop under the old rules?  I thought it was more that was short hand for "I am adding all this time on at the end"

Grimley was off the pitch for near 13 actual minutes on Saturday night
Now that the ref can stop the clock it's an opportunity to align the black card clock to the game clock.

I thought it had.  It certainly seemed to in the Armagh v Mayo match on Saturday night

Afaia, it was 10 mins of clock time in Tyrone and Mullingar.