Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[tbrick18]

I was chatting to a referee at the Derry v Galway game and he told me an interesting one. Should a team concede a penalty, and remonstrate the decision with the ref (i.e. dissent), the penalty will be taken, followed by a free being awarded to the attacking team, who can chose to take a 2 pointer. So a penalty can potentially gain 5 points if anyone is deemed to be dissenting (is that a word?).

Mad.

Surely this is not true? Just black card the player remonstrating and allow the defending team to take the kick out. 

I hadn't seen it anywhere before and he's the only one who pointed this out to me, so I don't know with certainty. But he's a ref, so should know.
Any resident referee's know if this is the case?

[statto]

I was chatting to a referee at the Derry v Galway game and he told me an interesting one. Should a team concede a penalty, and remonstrate the decision with the ref (i.e. dissent), the penalty will be taken, followed by a free being awarded to the attacking team, who can chose to take a 2 pointer. So a penalty can potentially gain 5 points if anyone is deemed to be dissenting (is that a word?).

Mad.

Surely this is not true? Just black card the player remonstrating and allow the defending team to take the kick out. 

I hadn't seen it anywhere before and he's the only one who pointed this out to me, so I don't know with certainty. But he's a ref, so should know.
Any resident referee's know if this is the case?

Imagine playing a championship final and three up and this happens at end of game. 

[Rossfan]

If you do the crime......   

[David McKeown]

I was chatting to a referee at the Derry v Galway game and he told me an interesting one. Should a team concede a penalty, and remonstrate the decision with the ref (i.e. dissent), the penalty will be taken, followed by a free being awarded to the attacking team, who can chose to take a 2 pointer. So a penalty can potentially gain 5 points if anyone is deemed to be dissenting (is that a word?).

Mad.

Surely this is not true? Just black card the player remonstrating and allow the defending team to take the kick out. 

I hadn't seen it anywhere before and he's the only one who pointed this out to me, so I don't know with certainty. But he's a ref, so should know.
Any resident referee's know if this is the case?

Does this not highlight the need to publish the fecking rules somewhere?

[tbrick18]

I was chatting to a referee at the Derry v Galway game and he told me an interesting one. Should a team concede a penalty, and remonstrate the decision with the ref (i.e. dissent), the penalty will be taken, followed by a free being awarded to the attacking team, who can chose to take a 2 pointer. So a penalty can potentially gain 5 points if anyone is deemed to be dissenting (is that a word?).

Mad.

Surely this is not true? Just black card the player remonstrating and allow the defending team to take the kick out. 

I hadn't seen it anywhere before and he's the only one who pointed this out to me, so I don't know with certainty. But he's a ref, so should know.
Any resident referee's know if this is the case?

Does this not highlight the need to publish the fecking rules somewhere?

Yep. Would be very easy to do as well, drop them onto the GAA.ie website and that is the single source of truth for the rules.
The committee can change as they see fit and subscribers to the site could be notified automatically of changes. Not rocket science and not costly to implement.

[David McKeown]

I was chatting to a referee at the Derry v Galway game and he told me an interesting one. Should a team concede a penalty, and remonstrate the decision with the ref (i.e. dissent), the penalty will be taken, followed by a free being awarded to the attacking team, who can chose to take a 2 pointer. So a penalty can potentially gain 5 points if anyone is deemed to be dissenting (is that a word?).

Mad.

Surely this is not true? Just black card the player remonstrating and allow the defending team to take the kick out. 

I hadn't seen it anywhere before and he's the only one who pointed this out to me, so I don't know with certainty. But he's a ref, so should know.
Any resident referee's know if this is the case?

Does this not highlight the need to publish the fecking rules somewhere?

Yep. Would be very easy to do as well, drop them onto the GAA.ie website and that is the single source of truth for the rules.
The committee can change as they see fit and subscribers to the site could be notified automatically of changes. Not rocket science and not costly to implement.

Many years ago I was involved in a similar process. You'd be amazed how complex something like that can be made.

[Milltown Row2]

I was chatting to a referee at the Derry v Galway game and he told me an interesting one. Should a team concede a penalty, and remonstrate the decision with the ref (i.e. dissent), the penalty will be taken, followed by a free being awarded to the attacking team, who can chose to take a 2 pointer. So a penalty can potentially gain 5 points if anyone is deemed to be dissenting (is that a word?).

Mad.

Surely this is not true? Just black card the player remonstrating and allow the defending team to take the kick out. 

I hadn't seen it anywhere before and he's the only one who pointed this out to me, so I don't know with certainty. But he's a ref, so should know.
Any resident referee's know if this is the case?

It was brought up at a meeting I was at recently, again, one of the many rules that have been mentioned but seeking clarification on it. Was saving that for a county final, can ya imagine the carnage lol

[befair]

What was also mad was in 2024 you'd go to a big inter Co Championship match and despite 10,20,30k or more spectators there was almost dead silence for 90% of the game.

This is sadly true; particularly remember the Lout-Cork championship game; ground was packed, excitement at fever-pitch, then after 20 seconds endless handpassing around the 45, and the atmosphere became dead as a dodo

[onefineday]

What was also mad was in 2024 you'd go to a big inter Co Championship match and despite 10,20,30k or more spectators there was almost dead silence for 90% of the game.

Yeah, definite downside of these new rules will be the lack of in game updates from spectators (this will be particularly bothersome for non-televised games, especially at club level).

[thebigfullforward]

If you do the crime......   

...You should be sentenced to death for daring to question a referee no matter if his decision was right or complete bull?

[Milltown Row2]

If you do the crime......   

...You should be sentenced to death for daring to question a referee no matter if his decision was right or complete bull?

I could run with that, maybe settle for a taser though

Look it will be down to the individual referee to determine what is dissent, idle chat or mild frustration is (for me) acceptable, that's purely my own view. As a player its very hard on the emotions , but players now will have to redirect that differently

[cornerback]

I was chatting to a referee at the Derry v Galway game and he told me an interesting one. Should a team concede a penalty, and remonstrate the decision with the ref (i.e. dissent), the penalty will be taken, followed by a free being awarded to the attacking team, who can chose to take a 2 pointer. So a penalty can potentially gain 5 points if anyone is deemed to be dissenting (is that a word?).

Mad.

Surely this is not true? Just black card the player remonstrating and allow the defending team to take the kick out. 

I hadn't seen it anywhere before and he's the only one who pointed this out to me, so I don't know with certainty. But he's a ref, so should know.
Any resident referee's know if this is the case?

Was at a club meeting regarding the new rules and this was mentioned.

However, the way it was explained was that if the remonstrating continued after the penalty was taken then the referee could award a free which could be a 2-pointer.  For example, as players and referee are running back out to their positions after the penalty is scored and a sub or manager shouts at the referee then he can award the free.

[Milltown Row2]

I was chatting to a referee at the Derry v Galway game and he told me an interesting one. Should a team concede a penalty, and remonstrate the decision with the ref (i.e. dissent), the penalty will be taken, followed by a free being awarded to the attacking team, who can chose to take a 2 pointer. So a penalty can potentially gain 5 points if anyone is deemed to be dissenting (is that a word?).

Mad.

Surely this is not true? Just black card the player remonstrating and allow the defending team to take the kick out. 

I hadn't seen it anywhere before and he's the only one who pointed this out to me, so I don't know with certainty. But he's a ref, so should know.
Any resident referee's know if this is the case?

Was at a club meeting regarding the new rules and this was mentioned.

However, the way it was explained was that if the remonstrating continued after the penalty was taken then the referee could award a free which could be a 2-pointer.  For example, as players and referee are running back out to their positions after the penalty is scored and a sub or manager shouts at the referee then he can award the free.

I wanna know if I can punish the lad saying to me that the opposing player is giving dissent can we move the ball forward?

[David McKeown]

If you do the crime......   

...You should be sentenced to death for daring to question a referee no matter if his decision was right or complete bull?

Ah excellent another potentially impactful rule that will likely be inconsistently applied. That's not going to create frustration amongst players or supporters.

I could run with that, maybe settle for a taser though

Look it will be down to the individual referee to determine what is dissent, idle chat or mild frustration is (for me) acceptable, that's purely my own view. As a player its very hard on the emotions , but players now will have to redirect that differently

If you do the crime......   

...You should be sentenced to death for daring to question a referee no matter if his decision was right or complete bull?

I could run with that, maybe settle for a taser though

Look it will be down to the individual referee to determine what is dissent, idle chat or mild frustration is (for me) acceptable, that's purely my own view. As a player its very hard on the emotions , but players now will have to redirect that differently

[on the sideline]

2 Questions that came up from meeting tonight:

1. If taking the solo and go, during the first 4 steps or metres if I look up and see a kick pass or hand pass is on, can I make the pass? As in before I take the solo part of 'solo and go'

2. If I'm fouled just outside the 21 and solo and go, do I still get the protection from being tackled for the 8m or is it game on when I cross the 21?