Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[smort]

A quick scan at the ulster gaa results page, a lot of high scoring games in the ulster league, wouldn't be usual for this time of year

[Armagh18]

Chatting to a few refs and bar the 3 up they're happy enough,

[johnnycool]

Chatting to a few refs and bar the 3 up they're happy enough,

It's a good rule but understandable hard for a referee to monitor as they'd need eyes in the back of their heads.

Whats interesting about these new rules is that a lot of these coaching guru's online really can't handle the kickouts in particular.
They like to "control the process" but are struggling with the current chaos in relation to kickouts. Chaos is a good thing for any sport and players need to be able to free think in chaos rather than be robots.

Coupled with that was the post match interview with Ryan McHugh after their win in Kerry, he's enjoying the new rules, the freedom that they bring, especially the tap and go, so lets here more from the players in relation to them, good and bad.

[tiempo]

Many Donegal players out with 6 week hamstring tears after the game in Kerry or Jim just talking shite the week before?

[tiempo]

Michael Langan off injured after 4mins v Kerry ...

"He has definitely pulled his hamstring," Donegal manager McGuinness said of the St Michael's midfielder. "I suppose the travel as well - you know it's a long journey you know and that might've had an impact on it, maybe the game last week."

Nawhing to do with the training load or warm up Jim naw?

Man loves an excuse

[statto]

I see the Ulster league has started.

Anybody been at any of the games? I presume it's with the new rules?

Not really about the football but just wondering how the referees are doing? Not giving out but just wonder how they are coping.

Watched one this afternoon, 3v3 was completely ignored and I don't blame the ref tbh. Was 1 chatting back incident which was punished in the first half so looks like that is having the desired effect

Think will initially be more back chat in league and championship as these games are challenge games really with no real jeopardy.

[GTP]

Watched an under 16 challenge match over the weekend. Kickout going past the 40m arc has potential to see teams destroyed. The part of the rule that says the other team can intercept the ball inside the 40m arc has the attacking team running onto anything short with a free run at goal and keeper out of position. Defenders can't get back as they are static staying outside the arc for kickout. If the idea is more contests no one should be allowed to win ball in the arc with a free in if it falls short and against any player touching it inside.

[thewobbler]

Watched an under 16 challenge match over the weekend. Kickout going past the 40m arc has potential to see teams destroyed. The part of the rule that says the other team can intercept the ball inside the 40m arc has the attacking team running onto anything short with a free run at goal and keeper out of position. Defenders can't get back as they are static staying outside the arc for kickout. If the idea is more contests no one should be allowed to win ball in the arc with a free in if it falls short and against any player touching it inside.

This is easily solved by sensible refereeing ie if a keeper makes a clear attempt to kick to the arc, then it's game on.

[Milltown Row2]

Watched an under 16 challenge match over the weekend. Kickout going past the 40m arc has potential to see teams destroyed. The part of the rule that says the other team can intercept the ball inside the 40m arc has the attacking team running onto anything short with a free run at goal and keeper out of position. Defenders can't get back as they are static staying outside the arc for kickout. If the idea is more contests no one should be allowed to win ball in the arc with a free in if it falls short and against any player touching it inside.

Defenders can be inside the 40m arc but can't contest the ball until it's touched by an attacker, so depending on a few things it might be smart to have a player inside the arc as a precaution, especially in juvenile games

[Smokin Joe]

Michael Langan off injured after 4mins v Kerry ...

"He has definitely pulled his hamstring," Donegal manager McGuinness said of the St Michael's midfielder. "I suppose the travel as well - you know it's a long journey you know and that might've had an impact on it, maybe the game last week."

Nawhing to do with the training load or warm up Jim naw?

Man loves an excuse

Langan's injury happened inside the 1st minute of the game, hard to blame that on workload done during the game.

[Smokin Joe]

Watched an under 16 challenge match over the weekend. Kickout going past the 40m arc has potential to see teams destroyed. The part of the rule that says the other team can intercept the ball inside the 40m arc has the attacking team running onto anything short with a free run at goal and keeper out of position. Defenders can't get back as they are static staying outside the arc for kickout. If the idea is more contests no one should be allowed to win ball in the arc with a free in if it falls short and against any player touching it inside.

This is easily solved by sensible refereeing ie if a keeper makes a clear attempt to kick to the arc, then it's game on.

Good man Wobbler. Your fix is for the referee to totally ignore the rule 
Not sure that would be a proper RCCA fix.

[tiempo]

Michael Langan off injured after 4mins v Kerry ...

"He has definitely pulled his hamstring," Donegal manager McGuinness said of the St Michael's midfielder. "I suppose the travel as well - you know it's a long journey you know and that might've had an impact on it, maybe the game last week."

Nawhing to do with the training load or warm up Jim naw?

Man loves an excuse

Langan's injury happened inside the 1st minute of the game, hard to blame that on workload done during the game.

Hard to blame on a game that took place a week earlier, but Jim managed to

Jim says the demands on players are 3, 4 or 5 times more than last year

Talking pure brown, its not easy this guru malarkey

[thewobbler]

Watched an under 16 challenge match over the weekend. Kickout going past the 40m arc has potential to see teams destroyed. The part of the rule that says the other team can intercept the ball inside the 40m arc has the attacking team running onto anything short with a free run at goal and keeper out of position. Defenders can't get back as they are static staying outside the arc for kickout. If the idea is more contests no one should be allowed to win ball in the arc with a free in if it falls short and against any player touching it inside.

This is easily solved by sensible refereeing ie if a keeper makes a clear attempt to kick to the arc, then it's game on.

Good man Wobbler. Your fix is for the referee to totally ignore the rule 
Not sure that would be a proper RCCA fix.

I know. It seems like a mad flaw doesn't it?

Yet the best referees have been ignoring - or least taking liberties with - the rule book for years.

I don't play / coach /watch sports to watch young lads get fucked over by daft rules. I'm really hoping most referees feel the same way.

[marty34]

Michael Langan off injured after 4mins v Kerry ...

"He has definitely pulled his hamstring," Donegal manager McGuinness said of the St Michael's midfielder. "I suppose the travel as well - you know it's a long journey you know and that might've had an impact on it, maybe the game last week."

Nawhing to do with the training load or warm up Jim naw?

Man loves an excuse

Langan's injury happened inside the 1st minute of the game, hard to blame that on workload done during the game.

Maybe he's talking about workload being done this past few months?

I.e. a heavy block of training.

[GTP]

The kickouts could just clear the arc but attackers running onto the ball as it fell made them too easy to intercept inside. Ref couldn't apply common sense as defence never got their hands on the ball. Defenders in the arc means you are out numbered trying to win the kickout I think it would make it much harder for keeper to get ball away. A small sample but it was not an enhancement to the game and puts a lot of pressure on a goalie. First game out but the handing ball back was a nonsense, kids doing keepie ups or not knowing which way a free was given could cost a team points and matches, whilst easy to say players will learn the punishment for a minor technical foul is pretty harsh.