Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

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armaghniac

Quote from: tonto1888 on February 07, 2025, 04:19:33 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 07, 2025, 03:07:05 PMI'm no fan of the GAA's endeavours to fill the country with white elephant stadia.

Nor do I suffer from the average GAA fan's obsession with marketing and continually growing the game.

But I do firmly believe that county championship is what makes GAA such a unique and wondrous association. And wanting home advantage for such an occasion is just not reason enough for tens of thousands of GAA people to miss out on attending.

Why bother with a home and away draw in the first place then? Why not say at the outset all games will be in neutral venues

Home and away is not a problem for counties that have equipped themselves with a stadium of reasonable size, if they have not as in Armagh two decades ago than a neutral venue it is.
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Norm-Peterson

They should play it in Croke Park, Antrim won't be complaining then. Or maybe Clones, Antrim don't play there very often.

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: armaghniac on February 07, 2025, 12:12:12 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on February 07, 2025, 11:52:01 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 07, 2025, 11:48:06 AMJust right. Home advantage is home advantage, as annoying as it will be for all the supporters who miss out

I agree. But  ticket sales are more important,  it seems

No, clearly ticket sales are valuable as revenue can be put to good use. But beyond that the GAA is a community organisation, people should be welcome to come along to games and a handful of people should not be allowed determine whether thousands of others should be allowed attend. Louth played their home games in Inniskeen last year, why should Antrim be more important than Louth?

'cos Louth didn't hand their pitch over to the Leinster council to make a complete fuking pigs ear of?
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armaghniac

Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on February 07, 2025, 06:27:49 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 07, 2025, 12:12:12 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on February 07, 2025, 11:52:01 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 07, 2025, 11:48:06 AMJust right. Home advantage is home advantage, as annoying as it will be for all the supporters who miss out

I agree. But  ticket sales are more important,  it seems

No, clearly ticket sales are valuable as revenue can be put to good use. But beyond that the GAA is a community organisation, people should be welcome to come along to games and a handful of people should not be allowed determine whether thousands of others should be allowed attend. Louth played their home games in Inniskeen last year, why should Antrim be more important than Louth?

'cos Louth didn't hand their pitch over to the Leinster council to make a complete fuking pigs ear of?

And for that wisdom Louth should be penalised?
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bennydorano

I'd imagine Armagh will shut the debate down by agreeing with Antrim and leave the Ulster Council to clear up the mess. Can't see a huge uproar whatever the outcome. Antrim just right fo play the hand they've been dealt.

Armamike

Can see the two sides to the argument.  Understand Antrim wanting to get any advantage and they're right to remind people that they drew the home venue.  But having said that, it's also reasonable to expect that any county with home advantage should be able to host say 10,000 supporters minimum.  Is there another county in Ulster that couldn't host that number or more?  Corrigan park is not fit to host county championship matches - it just isn't. It's a decent club ground and that's its limit.  It's a sorry state of affairs that Antrim doesn't have a county standard facility fit for the 21st century but that's another discussion. 
That's just, like your opinion man.

93-DY-SAM

Quote from: Armamike on February 07, 2025, 06:57:30 PMCan see the two sides to the argument.  Understand Antrim wanting to get any advantage and they're right to remind people that they drew the home venue.  But having said that, it's also reasonable to expect that any county with home advantage should be able to host say 10,000 supporters minimum.  Is there another county in Ulster that couldn't host that number or more?  Corrigan park is not fit to host county championship matches - it just isn't. It's a decent club ground and that's its limit.  It's a sorry state of affairs that Antrim doesn't have a county standard facility fit for the 21st century but that's another discussion. 

It is not Antrim's fault they don't have a stadium. They had one of the largest outside of Clones and the Ulster Council made a complete bollox of it. That's where the blame lies. Wouldn't matter what Ulster county they played, Corrigan Park wouldn't be big enough. Everyone knew Antrims situation for years before any draw so it's hardly a surprise.

Some of the stuff from Armagh fans on Facebook about this is laughable. Wouldn't matter if Antrim could accommodate 10k they'd still complain it wasn't big enough. Waiting on a campaign to get the game moved to Croke Park. Not even sure that's big enough given all these supporters that are going to be going. Maybe Jarlath will write a strongly worded email.

quit yo jibbajabba

Jarlath has just announced there's a way back for Antrim 😋

Sportacus

Were the Ulster Council taking some sort of 50:50 bet that Antrim would be drawn away from home?  Their incompetence never ceases to amaze me.  This is completely predictable. I'd certainly back the Antrim panel 100%.

JoG2

Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on February 07, 2025, 07:15:13 PM
Quote from: Armamike on February 07, 2025, 06:57:30 PMCan see the two sides to the argument.  Understand Antrim wanting to get any advantage and they're right to remind people that they drew the home venue.  But having said that, it's also reasonable to expect that any county with home advantage should be able to host say 10,000 supporters minimum.  Is there another county in Ulster that couldn't host that number or more?  Corrigan park is not fit to host county championship matches - it just isn't. It's a decent club ground and that's its limit.  It's a sorry state of affairs that Antrim doesn't have a county standard facility fit for the 21st century but that's another discussion. 

It is not Antrim's fault they don't have a stadium. They had one of the largest outside of Clones and the Ulster Council made a complete bollox of it. That's where the blame lies. Wouldn't matter what Ulster county they played, Corrigan Park wouldn't be big enough. Everyone knew Antrims situation for years before any draw so it's hardly a surprise.

Some of the stuff from Armagh fans on Facebook about this is laughable. Wouldn't matter if Antrim could accommodate 10k they'd still complain it wasn't big enough. Waiting on a campaign to get the game moved to Croke Park. Not even sure that's big enough given all these supporters that are going to be going. Maybe Jarlath will write a strongly worded email.

Naw naw, not having that....fake news !

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: armaghniac on February 07, 2025, 06:46:51 PM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on February 07, 2025, 06:27:49 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 07, 2025, 12:12:12 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on February 07, 2025, 11:52:01 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 07, 2025, 11:48:06 AMJust right. Home advantage is home advantage, as annoying as it will be for all the supporters who miss out

I agree. But  ticket sales are more important,  it seems

No, clearly ticket sales are valuable as revenue can be put to good use. But beyond that the GAA is a community organisation, people should be welcome to come along to games and a handful of people should not be allowed determine whether thousands of others should be allowed attend. Louth played their home games in Inniskeen last year, why should Antrim be more important than Louth?

'cos Louth didn't hand their pitch over to the Leinster council to make a complete fuking pigs ear of?

And for that wisdom Louth should be penalised?

As far as I am aware Louth have never had an issue with their games being moved, but I'm open to correction.

Clearly in this case, Antrim do.


Maybe the demand to Ulster Council should be simple.

Give us back all ownership of Casement and never darken our door again with your bullsh.t or we're sticking with this game is being played in Corrigan or nowhere.
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RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: Armamike on February 07, 2025, 06:57:30 PMIt's a sorry state of affairs that Antrim doesn't have a county standard facility fit for the 21st century but that's another discussion. 

But its not another discussion.

Its the same shower that fuked Casement is demanding Antrim move the game.
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Orior

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AustinPowers

Are the  Health and safety requirements for league games  different  to those for championship games?

marty34

Quote from: AustinPowers on February 07, 2025, 09:21:20 PMAre the  Health and safety requirements for league games  different  to those for championship games?

Does it depend on size of crowd?