Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

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lenny

Quote from: JoG2 on February 01, 2025, 04:54:26 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on February 01, 2025, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on February 01, 2025, 04:04:59 PMSome of these new rules are radically changing the game and not for the better. Up to recent years the main problem was the definition of the tackle. Today's game sees far less tackling and body contact.

A few simple rules changes would work far better
•    award free against a team for more than 2 successive hand passes
•    award free against a team for more than 2 successive back passes
•    restrict goalkeepers to their own parallelogram.

GAA FRC Rules Survey



No idea what the obsession is about restricting the keeper. Let teams do what they want. It adds excitement as a mistake can lead to a goal. If you take away any potential tactical advantage a team has then it simply becomes a game where the team with the better players always win.

In my opinion only changes required were better definition of the tackle and more consistency in application  the rules by the ref. Also gaa need to invest in better coaching so that young managers come up with their own tactics rather than 15 behind the ball at all times.

The keeper not allowed on the ball in their own half is the best of the new rules imo

Hadn't heard that rule, you're saying the keeper isn't allowed to save any shots?

JoG2

Quote from: lenny on February 01, 2025, 06:00:25 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on February 01, 2025, 04:54:26 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on February 01, 2025, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on February 01, 2025, 04:04:59 PMSome of these new rules are radically changing the game and not for the better. Up to recent years the main problem was the definition of the tackle. Today's game sees far less tackling and body contact.

A few simple rules changes would work far better
•    award free against a team for more than 2 successive hand passes
•    award free against a team for more than 2 successive back passes
•    restrict goalkeepers to their own parallelogram.

GAA FRC Rules Survey



No idea what the obsession is about restricting the keeper. Let teams do what they want. It adds excitement as a mistake can lead to a goal. If you take away any potential tactical advantage a team has then it simply becomes a game where the team with the better players always win.

In my opinion only changes required were better definition of the tackle and more consistency in application  the rules by the ref. Also gaa need to invest in better coaching so that young managers come up with their own tactics rather than 15 behind the ball at all times.

The keeper not allowed on the ball in their own half is the best of the new rules imo

Hadn't heard that rule, you're saying the keeper isn't allowed to save any shots?

You're here all week I hear Lenny

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Quote from: JoG2 on February 01, 2025, 04:54:26 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on February 01, 2025, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on February 01, 2025, 04:04:59 PMSome of these new rules are radically changing the game and not for the better. Up to recent years the main problem was the definition of the tackle. Today's game sees far less tackling and body contact.

A few simple rules changes would work far better
•    award free against a team for more than 2 successive hand passes
•    award free against a team for more than 2 successive back passes
•    restrict goalkeepers to their own parallelogram.

GAA FRC Rules Survey



No idea what the obsession is about restricting the keeper. Let teams do what they want. It adds excitement as a mistake can lead to a goal. If you take away any potential tactical advantage a team has then it simply becomes a game where the team with the better players always win.

In my opinion only changes required were better definition of the tackle and more consistency in application  the rules by the ref. Also gaa need to invest in better coaching so that young managers come up with their own tactics rather than 15 behind the ball at all times.

The keeper not allowed on the ball in their own half is the best of the new rules imo

I think that's easily the worst rule that rewards tactical fouling and allows the team who are attacking that half to have a numerical advantage in trying to win the ball back. Particularly punishing in windy conditions
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JoG2

Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2025, 09:14:21 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on February 01, 2025, 04:54:26 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on February 01, 2025, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on February 01, 2025, 04:04:59 PMSome of these new rules are radically changing the game and not for the better. Up to recent years the main problem was the definition of the tackle. Today's game sees far less tackling and body contact.

A few simple rules changes would work far better
•    award free against a team for more than 2 successive hand passes
•    award free against a team for more than 2 successive back passes
•    restrict goalkeepers to their own parallelogram.

GAA FRC Rules Survey



No idea what the obsession is about restricting the keeper. Let teams do what they want. It adds excitement as a mistake can lead to a goal. If you take away any potential tactical advantage a team has then it simply becomes a game where the team with the better players always win.

In my opinion only changes required were better definition of the tackle and more consistency in application  the rules by the ref. Also gaa need to invest in better coaching so that young managers come up with their own tactics rather than 15 behind the ball at all times.

The keeper not allowed on the ball in their own half is the best of the new rules imo

I think that's easily the worst rule that rewards tactical fouling and allows the team who are attacking that half to have a numerical advantage in trying to win the ball back. Particularly punishing in windy conditions

It stops the numerical advantage we've seen the last decade or so, crab football with the keeper as the link man at the back, it's brutal

Armagh18

Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2025, 09:14:21 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on February 01, 2025, 04:54:26 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on February 01, 2025, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on February 01, 2025, 04:04:59 PMSome of these new rules are radically changing the game and not for the better. Up to recent years the main problem was the definition of the tackle. Today's game sees far less tackling and body contact.

A few simple rules changes would work far better
•    award free against a team for more than 2 successive hand passes
•    award free against a team for more than 2 successive back passes
•    restrict goalkeepers to their own parallelogram.

GAA FRC Rules Survey



No idea what the obsession is about restricting the keeper. Let teams do what they want. It adds excitement as a mistake can lead to a goal. If you take away any potential tactical advantage a team has then it simply becomes a game where the team with the better players always win.

In my opinion only changes required were better definition of the tackle and more consistency in application  the rules by the ref. Also gaa need to invest in better coaching so that young managers come up with their own tactics rather than 15 behind the ball at all times.

The keeper not allowed on the ball in their own half is the best of the new rules imo

I think that's easily the worst rule that rewards tactical fouling and allows the team who are attacking that half to have a numerical advantage in trying to win the ball back. Particularly punishing in windy conditions
Shouldnt the tap and go eliminate that?

David McKeown

Quote from: Armagh18 on February 02, 2025, 11:13:05 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2025, 09:14:21 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on February 01, 2025, 04:54:26 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on February 01, 2025, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on February 01, 2025, 04:04:59 PMSome of these new rules are radically changing the game and not for the better. Up to recent years the main problem was the definition of the tackle. Today's game sees far less tackling and body contact.

A few simple rules changes would work far better
•    award free against a team for more than 2 successive hand passes
•    award free against a team for more than 2 successive back passes
•    restrict goalkeepers to their own parallelogram.

GAA FRC Rules Survey



No idea what the obsession is about restricting the keeper. Let teams do what they want. It adds excitement as a mistake can lead to a goal. If you take away any potential tactical advantage a team has then it simply becomes a game where the team with the better players always win.

In my opinion only changes required were better definition of the tackle and more consistency in application  the rules by the ref. Also gaa need to invest in better coaching so that young managers come up with their own tactics rather than 15 behind the ball at all times.

The keeper not allowed on the ball in their own half is the best of the new rules imo

I think that's easily the worst rule that rewards tactical fouling and allows the team who are attacking that half to have a numerical advantage in trying to win the ball back. Particularly punishing in windy conditions
Shouldnt the tap and go eliminate that?

It does to a degree but the tap and go isnt particularly useful if for example the fouled player has been hurt or a card has been produced.  Also you cant run backwards on a solo and go so theres a clear advantage created by the fouling team
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David McKeown

Quote from: JoG2 on February 02, 2025, 11:02:16 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2025, 09:14:21 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on February 01, 2025, 04:54:26 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on February 01, 2025, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on February 01, 2025, 04:04:59 PMSome of these new rules are radically changing the game and not for the better. Up to recent years the main problem was the definition of the tackle. Today's game sees far less tackling and body contact.

A few simple rules changes would work far better
•    award free against a team for more than 2 successive hand passes
•    award free against a team for more than 2 successive back passes
•    restrict goalkeepers to their own parallelogram.

GAA FRC Rules Survey



No idea what the obsession is about restricting the keeper. Let teams do what they want. It adds excitement as a mistake can lead to a goal. If you take away any potential tactical advantage a team has then it simply becomes a game where the team with the better players always win.

In my opinion only changes required were better definition of the tackle and more consistency in application  the rules by the ref. Also gaa need to invest in better coaching so that young managers come up with their own tactics rather than 15 behind the ball at all times.

The keeper not allowed on the ball in their own half is the best of the new rules imo

I think that's easily the worst rule that rewards tactical fouling and allows the team who are attacking that half to have a numerical advantage in trying to win the ball back. Particularly punishing in windy conditions

It stops the numerical advantage we've seen the last decade or so, crab football with the keeper as the link man at the back, it's brutal

At least under the old rules teams could stop the numerical advantage albeit that wouldn't have necessarily been a good idea.  Its replaced it with a numerical advantage the other way that cant be prevented and punishes the team fouled. Weve seen a good few examples already of teams being punished for being fouled.
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Truthsayer

New rules have been a tonic. Mite need the odd tweak but a new dawn afterthe worst era of Gaelic football I can remember.. and that goes back a long way. Well done to the committee for the foresight to address the mess.

David McKeown

Quote from: Truthsayer on February 02, 2025, 05:42:35 PMNew rules have been a tonic. Mite need the odd tweak but a new dawn afterthe worst era of Gaelic football I can remember.. and that goes back a long way. Well done to the committee for the foresight to address the mess.

They really have divided opinion it seems
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Milltown Row2

Quote from: Truthsayer on February 02, 2025, 05:42:35 PMNew rules have been a tonic. Mite need the odd tweak but a new dawn afterthe worst era of Gaelic football I can remember.. and that goes back a long way. Well done to the committee for the foresight to address the mess.

Let's see how that tonic flies come the club games lol
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Truthsayer

Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2025, 05:50:19 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 02, 2025, 05:42:35 PMNew rules have been a tonic. Mite need the odd tweak but a new dawn afterthe worst era of Gaelic football I can remember.. and that goes back a long way. Well done to the committee for the foresight to address the mess.

They really have divided opinion it seems
You can't say it's worsened things. It couldn't possibly! Response I've seen is overwhelmingly positive albeit call for some tweaks

David McKeown

Quote from: Truthsayer on February 02, 2025, 05:55:00 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2025, 05:50:19 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 02, 2025, 05:42:35 PMNew rules have been a tonic. Mite need the odd tweak but a new dawn afterthe worst era of Gaelic football I can remember.. and that goes back a long way. Well done to the committee for the foresight to address the mess.

They really have divided opinion it seems
You can't say it's worsened things. It couldn't possibly! Response I've seen is overwhelmingly positive albeit call for some tweaks

I dont think its improved things in anyway.  Responses Ive seen have been entirely mixed.  Theres some elements of some rules I like but the majority I do not
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Truthsayer

Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2025, 05:58:53 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 02, 2025, 05:55:00 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2025, 05:50:19 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 02, 2025, 05:42:35 PMNew rules have been a tonic. Mite need the odd tweak but a new dawn afterthe worst era of Gaelic football I can remember.. and that goes back a long way. Well done to the committee for the foresight to address the mess.

They really have divided opinion it seems
You can't say it's worsened things. It couldn't possibly! Response I've seen is overwhelmingly positive albeit call for some tweaks

I dont think its improved things in anyway.  Responses Ive seen have been entirely mixed.  Theres some elements of some rules I like but the majority I do not
Guess what!... there'll be no going back to that sh*tshow of the last number of years.. caused by coaches who couldn't care less bout the state of the game.

David McKeown

Quote from: Truthsayer on February 02, 2025, 06:06:06 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2025, 05:58:53 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 02, 2025, 05:55:00 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2025, 05:50:19 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on February 02, 2025, 05:42:35 PMNew rules have been a tonic. Mite need the odd tweak but a new dawn afterthe worst era of Gaelic football I can remember.. and that goes back a long way. Well done to the committee for the foresight to address the mess.

They really have divided opinion it seems
You can't say it's worsened things. It couldn't possibly! Response I've seen is overwhelmingly positive albeit call for some tweaks

I dont think its improved things in anyway.  Responses Ive seen have been entirely mixed.  Theres some elements of some rules I like but the majority I do not
Guess what!... there'll be no going back to that sh*tshow of the last number of years.. caused by coaches who couldn't care less bout the state of the game.

I don't accept it was a shit show. But I'll give the new rules more time to develop before making a final determination on them.
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