NFL Division 1 2025

[Armagh18]

I think whilst there some positives that come from the new rules we also saw a lot of the negatives from them.

On a number of occasions a team benefitted from fouling a defender because it put the defence at the disadvantage of not being able to use their keeper.

Teams losing a man particularly against the wind are at an even bigger disadvantage

The punishment for 3v3 violations is more severe than any type of foul anywhere else on the pitch except fouls the result in penalties.

Also hard to officiate as tonight showed with linesmen making a couple of costly mistakes, 

There was an occasion where Blaine was fouled (high tackle) and the defender booked and when Hughes went to take the free there was nothing on and possession was given away again. Was there anything to stop him playing the solo and go even though the referee had stopped play to for the booking?

All it says in the rules is fhe solo and go must be taken immediately and that you can't go backwards. Definitely something worth looking at imo, if the game is stopped because the fouled player is injured/the ref needs to book someone then the fouled team shouldn't be disadvantaged. Hope that is clarified by the rule makers, good point.

[Milltown Row2]

In the rules of before and now, if a player is injured (high tackle) play is stopped, player booked, regardless.

There is a player requiring attention, that's the main thing surely, not whether you're disadvantaged?

If there is an accidental collision and players are down okay stopped, hop ball

Solo and go can only work for a minor infraction when injuries or cards are not happening. How on earth the ref's will note and card players on the move and dish out cards at a natural break will be interesting

[David McKeown]

In the rules of before and now, if a player is injured (high tackle) play is stopped, player booked, regardless.

There is a player requiring attention, that's the main thing surely, not whether you're disadvantaged?

If there is an accidental collision and players are down okay stopped, hop ball

Solo and go can only work for a minor infraction when injuries or cards are not happening. How on earth the ref's will note and card players on the move and dish out cards at a natural break will be interesting

I agree that player safety is paramount but the team whose player was injured shouldn't be disadvantaged. By the use of the new rule on keepers they are. That needs changed. The change isn't play on with an injured player getting treatment. It's the non use of the keeper in their own half that needs looked at.

[tbrick18]

So fixtures this weekend throw up some interesting ties.

Mayo v Galway - Galway by 3
Armagh v Tyrone - Tyrone by 5
Donegal v Dublin - Donegal by 2
Derry v Kerry - Draw

[SouthOfThe Bann]

So fixtures this weekend throw up some interesting ties.

Mayo v Galway - Galway by 3
Armagh v Tyrone - Tyrone by 5
Donegal v Dublin - Donegal by 2
Derry v Kerry - Draw

Galway by 4
Tyrone by 6
Donegal by 4
Kerry by 11

[Captain Obvious]

So fixtures this weekend throw up some interesting ties.

Mayo v Galway - Galway by 3
Armagh v Tyrone - Tyrone by 5
Donegal v Dublin - Donegal by 2
Derry v Kerry - Draw

Galway by 4
Tyrone by 6
Donegal by 4
Kerry by 11

Derry to lose by that margin to a Kerry outfit without 8 or 9 first choice players?

[SouthOfThe Bann]

So fixtures this weekend throw up some interesting ties.

Mayo v Galway - Galway by 3
Armagh v Tyrone - Tyrone by 5
Donegal v Dublin - Donegal by 2
Derry v Kerry - Draw

Galway by 4
Tyrone by 6
Donegal by 4
Kerry by 11

Derry to lose by that margin to a Kerry outfit without 8 or 9 first choice players?

Might have went a bit extreme there...Didn't realize Kerry were as depleted. I think Derry will struggle with the new rules outside of McGuigan I don't think they have the firepower.

Their success came from a exceptional manager who micromanaged everything they did.

If they get some the minors through though it could be a different story however.

[JoG2]

So fixtures this weekend throw up some interesting ties.

Mayo v Galway - Galway by 3
Armagh v Tyrone - Tyrone by 5
Donegal v Dublin - Donegal by 2
Derry v Kerry - Draw

Galway by 4
Tyrone by 6
Donegal by 4
Kerry by 11

Derry to lose by that margin to a Kerry outfit without 8 or 9 first choice players?

Might have went a bit extreme there...Didn't realize Kerry were as depleted. I think Derry will struggle with the new rules outside of McGuigan I don't think they have the firepower.

Their success came from a exceptional manager who micromanaged everything they did.

If they get some the minors through though it could be a different story however.

New rules, modern football ie a spread of scorers as is the norm, but, much more space hopefully, strong runners....But I'll concede to the all seeing Septic Peg. Will go with Kerry by 8 and try and pay off the summer holiday 🤝

[tbrick18]

So fixtures this weekend throw up some interesting ties.

Mayo v Galway - Galway by 3
Armagh v Tyrone - Tyrone by 5
Donegal v Dublin - Donegal by 2
Derry v Kerry - Draw

Galway by 4
Tyrone by 6
Donegal by 4
Kerry by 11

Derry to lose by that margin to a Kerry outfit without 8 or 9 first choice players?

Might have went a bit extreme there...Didn't realize Kerry were as depleted. I think Derry will struggle with the new rules outside of McGuigan I don't think they have the firepower.

Their success came from a exceptional manager who micromanaged everything they did.

If they get some the minors through though it could be a different story however.

Derry are depleted too.
I think we have scores in us if we can get primary possession and we have runners (when injury free).
At the minute we are missing McKinless, McGrogan, McCloskey and Loughlin (maybe others too). Mckinless, McGrogan and Mcloskey are huge loses for Derry and seriously limit our running from deep game.
Add to that we struggle to win kickouts in the middle 8, leaves us in a difficult position I feel.

But we are at home, kerry too are depleted and typically don't start strongly in the league, so I'm hoping for a draw.

[Mario]

So fixtures this weekend throw up some interesting ties.

Mayo v Galway - Galway by 3
Armagh v Tyrone - Tyrone by 5
Donegal v Dublin - Donegal by 2
Derry v Kerry - Draw

Galway by 4
Tyrone by 6
Donegal by 4
Kerry by 11

Derry to lose by that margin to a Kerry outfit without 8 or 9 first choice players?

Might have went a bit extreme there...Didn't realize Kerry were as depleted. I think Derry will struggle with the new rules outside of McGuigan I don't think they have the firepower.

Their success came from a exceptional manager who micromanaged everything they did.

If they get some the minors through though it could be a different story however.

Isn't every successful team micromanaged. Look at the best 3 teams in the country last year. Armagh, Donegal, Galway, all have very rigid structures with specific roles for their players. Derry's first 15 is very strong but their squad is weaker than the other top teams

[thebigfullforward]

So fixtures this weekend throw up some interesting ties.

Mayo v Galway - Galway by 3
Armagh v Tyrone - Tyrone by 5
Donegal v Dublin - Donegal by 2
Derry v Kerry - Draw

Galway by 4
Tyrone by 6
Donegal by 4
Kerry by 11

Derry to lose by that margin to a Kerry outfit without 8 or 9 first choice players?

Might have went a bit extreme there...Didn't realize Kerry were as depleted. I think Derry will struggle with the new rules outside of McGuigan I don't think they have the firepower.

Their success came from a exceptional manager who micromanaged everything they did.

If they get some the minors through though it could be a different story however.

Derry are depleted too.
I think we have scores in us if we can get primary possession and we have runners (when injury free).
At the minute we are missing McKinless, McGrogan, McCloskey and Loughlin (maybe others too). Mckinless, McGrogan and Mcloskey are huge loses for Derry and seriously limit our running from deep game.
Add to that we struggle to win kickouts in the middle 8, leaves us in a difficult position I feel.

But we are at home, kerry too are depleted and typically don't start strongly in the league, so I'm hoping for a draw.

Derry midfield be considered stronger than Kerry's wouldn't they? I like the look of Joe and Diarmuid O'Connor but you'd imagine Glass and Rodgers would be able to outshine them. Unless you're talking about the breaking balls I'd agree, Kerry could get the upper hand there

[screenexile]

There's a bit of a misconception about Derry's midfield. Glass and Rogers are brilliant all round footballers in defence and attack but it's not too often they win the midfield battle when it's pumped long. You can look at Kerry in the 2022 AISF, Donegal/Armagh/Kerry last year and Tyrone last weekend have all been a struggle in the middle of the field.

With the new rules meaning more midfield balls are contested we either need to find a dominating midfielder or come up with some innovative strategies for winning break ball!

[Ethan Tremblay]

There's a bit of a misconception about Derry's midfield. Glass and Rogers are brilliant all round footballers in defence and attack but it's not too often they win the midfield battle when it's pumped long. You can look at Kerry in the 2022 AISF, Donegal/Armagh/Kerry last year and Tyrone last weekend have all been a struggle in the middle of the field.

With the new rules meaning more midfield balls are contested we either need to find a dominating midfielder or come up with some innovative strategies for winning break ball!

Agreed, the new rules mean a potential throwback to the old days, where a big midfielder was thrown in to win ball or break ball.  At times you love nothing more than a midfield battle in the air, but that can change when your team is trailing and your goalkeeper is kicking it out to a 50/50 ffs. 

Mayo v Galway - Galway to lay down a marker against the old foe. 
Armagh v Tyrone - Home advantage leaves this a tight game, will be won by whoever is more disciplined with the rules. 
Donegal v Dublin - Donegal - feel they are raring to get going. 
Derry v Kerry - Derry funny enough.  They have a game over them already, and have home advantage. 

[twohands!!!]

There's a bit of a misconception about Derry's midfield. Glass and Rogers are brilliant all round footballers in defence and attack but it's not too often they win the midfield battle when it's pumped long. You can look at Kerry in the 2022 AISF, Donegal/Armagh/Kerry last year and Tyrone last weekend have all been a struggle in the middle of the field.

With the new rules meaning more midfield balls are contested we either need to find a dominating midfielder or come up with some innovative strategies for winning break ball!

I did read/hear someone somewhere was complaining that there weren't all that much of an increase in clean catches as a result of the increased number of long kickouts at the weekend but that there was an increase in broken ball around the midfield. Maybe that was related to the weather conditions at the weekend but it's one where I think it will take a bit of time to figure out and to see how teams approach the kickout.

Also I don't know how useful the older big man immobile midfielder at midfield will be given the amount of running needed under the new rules.

It does cause me to cast my mind back 30 years and being present when two of these big lad midfield specimens who weren't too fond of running, agreed a pact in a nightclub over pints the night before a match to stay as close to the centre of the pitch and do as little running as possible. They figured each of them could always claim the reason they weren't moving was because the other man wasn't moving and they were marking them. Two of the tighest man marking jobs I ever saw on a pitch.

[twohands!!!]

Normally after the first weekend of the league I'd feel as if I had some sort of sense of where teams were but even excluding Donegal and Kerry, I think becuase of the new rules it's much harder to get a sense of what sort of form teams are at.

I do feel both Derry and Dublin have an advantage over Kerry and Donegal in having an actual competitive game under the new rules played.