NFL Division 1 2025

[weareros]

From what I saw and read there were aleady a couple of games where there was no free given for a 3v3 infringement.

Was any of that a black card situation? For example when Daire Cregg got a black in the Roscommon Down game, Roscommon were only required to keep two forwards up and as a result it was 2 v 3 for Roscommon's 3rd goal. Many were not aware of that aspect of the rule.

[Milltown Row2]

From what I saw and read there were aleady a couple of games where there was no free given for a 3v3 infringement.

Was any of that a black card situation? For example when Daire Cregg got a black in the Roscommon Down game, Roscommon were only required to keep two forwards up and as a result it was 2 v 3 for Roscommon's 3rd goal. Many were not aware of that aspect of the rule.

Down/Rossies could have as many defenders as they needed or wanted throughout the game regardless of black cards, keeping 11 outfield players up front is the requirement I'm led to believe 

[armaghniac]

You step over a line, without necessarily affecting play, and the opposition can get two points. It is wholly disproportionate to other aspects of the game.

For far too long football has had a problem with so many rules because the punishment was so soft that it made sense to break them.

Teams and players have control over whether or not they break this rule.

Most kids can count to three by the time they hit junior infants so I don't think people can really claim it's all that difficult a rule to obey.

Honestly I was shocked to see how many times this rule was broken over the weekend - I thought it reflected very poorly on the ability levels of GAA coaches/management to coach players and also on players ability to get to grips with changes in the game.

Any team that breaks this rule with any sort of frequency at all will have questions asked about the management and/or players involved. Come Championship I would be surprised if any serious All-Ireland contender gets pinged with this rule.

Christ that's a bit harsh. If you see a man running down the pitch your first instinct is going to be to run after them. It's the first week of the rules being properly enforced (couldn't see them being that strict in challenge games). Would love to see how it's handled at club level. Seen some people say they just need 2 more unbiased officials as if we aren't short on numbers as it is

Games are stretched even more now, you have nearly double the games that would have been done 20 years ago, the huge numbers playing ladies football nowadays compared to 20 years ago is massive, they all need someone to step up, add in the juveniles and then the many senior and reserves games and the games a ref could be out each week is crazy, they could be doing 3 games at the weekend and a couple or more during the week, the drop off from the first year is big as well due to the abuse from players/sidelines/supporters..

Having extra officials at games would be brilliant, being mic'd up would also be great but lets see what happens early spring when the games start

Also mic up refs, so that any abuse is recorded and then throw the book at the perpetrators.

[Armagh18]

You step over a line, without necessarily affecting play, and the opposition can get two points. It is wholly disproportionate to other aspects of the game.

For far too long football has had a problem with so many rules because the punishment was so soft that it made sense to break them.

Teams and players have control over whether or not they break this rule.

Most kids can count to three by the time they hit junior infants so I don't think people can really claim it's all that difficult a rule to obey.

Honestly I was shocked to see how many times this rule was broken over the weekend - I thought it reflected very poorly on the ability levels of GAA coaches/management to coach players and also on players ability to get to grips with changes in the game.

Any team that breaks this rule with any sort of frequency at all will have questions asked about the management and/or players involved. Come Championship I would be surprised if any serious All-Ireland contender gets pinged with this rule.

I have generally no issue with the penalty for the 3v3 infraction other than being allowed to take a 2 pointer

Yeah agree. It needs to be harsh enough that teams simply won't think of breaking it and the odd time it is breached it will be due to a lack of concentration/communication on players behalf.

2 points for it is too much though

[Applesisapples]

I think whilst there some positives that come from the new rules we also saw a lot of the negatives from them.

On a number of occasions a team benefitted from fouling a defender because it put the defence at the disadvantage of not being able to use their keeper.

Teams losing a man particularly against the wind are at an even bigger disadvantage

The punishment for 3v3 violations is more severe than any type of foul anywhere else on the pitch except fouls the result in penalties.

Also hard to officiate as tonight showed with linesmen making a couple of costly mistakes, 

3 v 3 and two pointers are a nonsense, but the solo and go I thought sped up the game.

[tonto1888]

From what I saw and read there were aleady a couple of games where there was no free given for a 3v3 infringement.

Was any of that a black card situation? For example when Daire Cregg got a black in the Roscommon Down game, Roscommon were only required to keep two forwards up and as a result it was 2 v 3 for Roscommon's 3rd goal. Many were not aware of that aspect of the rule.

Down/Rossies could have as many defenders as they needed or wanted throughout the game regardless of black cards, keeping 11 outfield players up front is the requirement I'm led to believe 

11 players up front?
During the commentary for the armagh game, Fitzmaurice said if a man gets sent off/black card or whatever then that team only needs to keep 2 up and instead of 3v3 it becomes 2v3. Not sure if he explained further on what end of the pitch to be fair

[tbrick18]

I think whilst there some positives that come from the new rules we also saw a lot of the negatives from them.

On a number of occasions a team benefitted from fouling a defender because it put the defence at the disadvantage of not being able to use their keeper.

Teams losing a man particularly against the wind are at an even bigger disadvantage

The punishment for 3v3 violations is more severe than any type of foul anywhere else on the pitch except fouls the result in penalties.

Also hard to officiate as tonight showed with linesmen making a couple of costly mistakes, 

3 v 3 and two pointers are a nonsense, but the solo and go I thought sped up the game.

Yep - right up there with the advanced mark.
What is the penalty for breaking the 3v3 rule? I'm still struggling....

[Applesisapples]

I think whilst there some positives that come from the new rules we also saw a lot of the negatives from them.

On a number of occasions a team benefitted from fouling a defender because it put the defence at the disadvantage of not being able to use their keeper.

Teams losing a man particularly against the wind are at an even bigger disadvantage

The punishment for 3v3 violations is more severe than any type of foul anywhere else on the pitch except fouls the result in penalties.

Also hard to officiate as tonight showed with linesmen making a couple of costly mistakes, 

3 v 3 and two pointers are a nonsense, but the solo and go I thought sped up the game.

Yep - right up there with the advanced mark.
What is the penalty for breaking the 3v3 rule? I'm still struggling....

A free from wherever you like apparently

[Rossfan]

Looks like "Nordies against change" haven't gone away you know

[Milltown Row2]

From what I saw and read there were aleady a couple of games where there was no free given for a 3v3 infringement.

Was any of that a black card situation? For example when Daire Cregg got a black in the Roscommon Down game, Roscommon were only required to keep two forwards up and as a result it was 2 v 3 for Roscommon's 3rd goal. Many were not aware of that aspect of the rule.

Down/Rossies could have as many defenders as they needed or wanted throughout the game regardless of black cards, keeping 11 outfield players up front is the requirement I'm led to believe 

11 players up front?
During the commentary for the armagh game, Fitzmaurice said if a man gets sent off/black card or whatever then that team only needs to keep 2 up and instead of 3v3 it becomes 2v3. Not sure if he explained further on what end of the pitch to be fair

Yeah they can opt for that, but that still leaves 11 outfield players up in the forwards, there can't be more than that (excusing the keeper)

There were some mistakes at the weekend even with 9 officials

[DeasBéalFeirste]

Looks like "Nordies against change" haven't gone away you know

Hasn't most of the innovation and change in the last 20 odd years come from the north? It's usually the Munster men crying out for a return to 'comely maidens dancing at the crossroads'!

The rules look largely good, although the 2-point arc is surely going to cause an awful row at some point as it must be so difficult for referees to judge if a player is just outside it or not. It's easy to see a scenario where Antrim are in an All-Ireland final against Dublin, two points down and with the last kick hit a score just on the edge of the arc. Referee says it was on the line so it's only a 1 point score, instead of 2 points to equalize.

[5times5times]

Any word on why Galway didnt give Armagh a guard of honour? KK give Clare one?

[Armamike]

Not expecting one this weekend either!

[Milltown Row2]

Looks like "Nordies against change" haven't gone away you know

Hasn't most of the innovation and change in the last 20 odd years come from the north? It's usually the Munster men crying out for a return to 'comely maidens dancing at the crossroads'!

The rules look largely good, although the 2-point arc is surely going to cause an awful row at some point as it must be so difficult for referees to judge if a player is just outside it or not. It's easy to see a scenario where Antrim are in an All-Ireland final against Dublin, two points down and with the last kick hit a score just on the edge of the arc. Referee says it was on the line so it's only a 1 point score, instead of 2 points to equalize.

One foot can be on the line and the other follows through its still a two pointer and I'll wake up and have my cornflakes when that happens

[DeasBéalFeirste]

Looks like "Nordies against change" haven't gone away you know

Hasn't most of the innovation and change in the last 20 odd years come from the north? It's usually the Munster men crying out for a return to 'comely maidens dancing at the crossroads'!

The rules look largely good, although the 2-point arc is surely going to cause an awful row at some point as it must be so difficult for referees to judge if a player is just outside it or not. It's easy to see a scenario where Antrim are in an All-Ireland final against Dublin, two points down and with the last kick hit a score just on the edge of the arc. Referee says it was on the line so it's only a 1 point score, instead of 2 points to equalize.

One foot can be on the line and the other follows through its still a two pointer and I'll wake up and have my cornflakes when that happens

Well the same issue still applies. Was he on the line or slightly over? Some of those games at the weekend you could hardly see the line, and club games won't be any better. Some poor referee is going to end up taking awful grief after a big game.