Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

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Milltown Row2

Depends, he can get a black card depending on the what's said.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

jay110

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 09:53:57 PMWhat is the punishment for yapping at the ref for giving a free against you?
50 metres forward I'm pretty sure, only the team captain can speak to the ref
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Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: jay110 on January 29, 2025, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 09:53:57 PMWhat is the punishment for yapping at the ref for giving a free against you?
50 metres forward I'm pretty sure, only the team captain can speak to the ref
What if it's a 13m tap over free?

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 10:16:39 PMDepends, he can get a black card depending on the what's said.
Hasn't that always been the case since the black card was invented?
Wasn't used half enough.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 10:24:28 PM
Quote from: jay110 on January 29, 2025, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 09:53:57 PMWhat is the punishment for yapping at the ref for giving a free against you?
50 metres forward I'm pretty sure, only the team captain can speak to the ref
What if it's a 13m tap over free?

Move to in front of the goal on the 13, if he's yapping, book him or depending on what's coming out black card him.

Unfortunately shooting them wasn't brought in this time

The black card for yapping needs a bit more content than the regular gurning in fairness

I've used it a few times
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

AustinPowers

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 09:52:57 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 29, 2025, 09:36:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 08:32:12 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 29, 2025, 06:39:16 PMHanding the ball back gives  an instant advantage to  opponents.

What you might see  happening is, eg.  a player is blown for over carrying ,  he might be instructed to hit the ground  with an "injury" , so the ball can't be handed back. Therefore delaying  a quick  attack.

Could a referee book or move it forward 50 yards, if the  player  blown for over carrying is  now on the ground injured? Whether real or fake?

If he goes down 'injured' after he's pulled for over carrying I'm booking him for feigning an injury

What if it looks like a  head injury? Would you still book him?  Surely you have to take a head injury  seriously? Whether real or not

Different scenario, but ...remember the Dublin keeper v Sean  O'Shea penalty? He was clearly feigning injury, yet  wasn't booked.

Wise up, but he runs with the ball and all of a sudden has a head injury?

He'll be booked for feigning and being a dick

Is that the  official terminology?  ;)

I'm not  saying he's going down the wing , nobody near him , blown for overcsrrying, then falls over clutching his head. I'm talking , if he's  driving through   A number of challenges, close contact .

 Or if he goes  down with a leg injury in same scenario.

Anyway, the point I'm making is, will a player be penalised   For not giving the ball back, if he's  laid down injured ?

I'm just seeing how coaches might get around  these new  rules.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: AustinPowers on January 29, 2025, 10:56:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 09:52:57 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 29, 2025, 09:36:48 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 08:32:12 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 29, 2025, 06:39:16 PMHanding the ball back gives  an instant advantage to  opponents.

What you might see  happening is, eg.  a player is blown for over carrying ,  he might be instructed to hit the ground  with an "injury" , so the ball can't be handed back. Therefore delaying  a quick  attack.

Could a referee book or move it forward 50 yards, if the  player  blown for over carrying is  now on the ground injured? Whether real or fake?

If he goes down 'injured' after he's pulled for over carrying I'm booking him for feigning an injury

What if it looks like a  head injury? Would you still book him?  Surely you have to take a head injury  seriously? Whether real or not

Different scenario, but ...remember the Dublin keeper v Sean  O'Shea penalty? He was clearly feigning injury, yet  wasn't booked.

Wise up, but he runs with the ball and all of a sudden has a head injury?

He'll be booked for feigning and being a dick

Is that the  official terminology?  ;)

I'm not  saying he's going down the wing , nobody near him , blown for overcsrrying, then falls over clutching his head. I'm talking , if he's  driving through   A number of challenges, close contact .

 Or if he goes  down with a leg injury in same scenario.

Anyway, the point I'm making is, will a player be penalised   For not giving the ball back, if he's  laid down injured ?

I'm just seeing how coaches might get around  these new  rules.

Well if the coach thinks that's going to work I'd be worried about the coach... certainly test how the ref will react but don't be surprised if he books someone for act the dick or maggot
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Duine Inteacht Eile

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 10:24:28 PM
Quote from: jay110 on January 29, 2025, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 09:53:57 PMWhat is the punishment for yapping at the ref for giving a free against you?
50 metres forward I'm pretty sure, only the team captain can speak to the ref
What if it's a 13m tap over free?

Move to in front of the goal on the 13, if he's yapping, book him or depending on what's coming out black card him.

Unfortunately shooting them wasn't brought in this time

The black card for yapping needs a bit more content than the regular gurning in fairness

I've used it a few times
Are ye booking all yapping or just moving the ball 50m?
The point is there is no real deterrent for gurning at the ref after he has awarded an easy-to-convert free.
Are we to see teams use this opportunity to let off a bit of steam at the referee?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 30, 2025, 05:30:55 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 10:24:28 PM
Quote from: jay110 on January 29, 2025, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 09:53:57 PMWhat is the punishment for yapping at the ref for giving a free against you?
50 metres forward I'm pretty sure, only the team captain can speak to the ref
What if it's a 13m tap over free?

Move to in front of the goal on the 13, if he's yapping, book him or depending on what's coming out black card him.

Unfortunately shooting them wasn't brought in this time

The black card for yapping needs a bit more content than the regular gurning in fairness

I've used it a few times
Are ye booking all yapping or just moving the ball 50m?
The point is there is no real deterrent for gurning at the ref after he has awarded an easy-to-convert free.
Are we to see teams use this opportunity to let off a bit of steam at the referee?

The deterrent can only be use of the cards after the initial moving it forward, if I was a manager and my players were constantly doing that I'd personally take them off.

 Ref's are only human, if a team or player is doing that to him they'll find it difficult to win those 50/50 calls..
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

johnnycool

Quote from: jay110 on January 29, 2025, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 09:53:57 PMWhat is the punishment for yapping at the ref for giving a free against you?
50 metres forward I'm pretty sure, only the team captain can speak to the ref

Anyone can speak to the referee, but only the captain or a designated outfield player can question a decision

https://x.com/i/status/1884641939590369650

https://x.com/i/status/1884641939590369650

Is that clear now?  :o

thebigfullforward

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 10:24:28 PM
Quote from: jay110 on January 29, 2025, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 09:53:57 PMWhat is the punishment for yapping at the ref for giving a free against you?
50 metres forward I'm pretty sure, only the team captain can speak to the ref
What if it's a 13m tap over free?

Move to in front of the goal on the 13, if he's yapping, book him or depending on what's coming out black card him.

Unfortunately shooting them wasn't brought in this time

The black card for yapping needs a bit more content than the regular gurning in fairness

I've used it a few times
Seems harsh if the player is giving out about a genuinely bad decision

JoG2

Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 30, 2025, 08:45:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 10:24:28 PM
Quote from: jay110 on January 29, 2025, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 09:53:57 PMWhat is the punishment for yapping at the ref for giving a free against you?
50 metres forward I'm pretty sure, only the team captain can speak to the ref
What if it's a 13m tap over free?

Move to in front of the goal on the 13, if he's yapping, book him or depending on what's coming out black card him.

Unfortunately shooting them wasn't brought in this time

The black card for yapping needs a bit more content than the regular gurning in fairness

I've used it a few times
Seems harsh if the player is giving out about a genuinely bad decision

Giving out, is this not what certain rules are trying to stop ? A change in culture, stopping refs being abused, as has been happening for decades? Players will soon learn, be respectful with all communications to the ref. It'll take time for certain players / sidelines to zip it, verbally abusing the ref is just something they've always done, not anymore

thewobbler

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Quote from: JoG2 on January 30, 2025, 08:55:02 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 30, 2025, 08:45:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 10:24:28 PM
Quote from: jay110 on January 29, 2025, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 09:53:57 PMWhat is the punishment for yapping at the ref for giving a free against you?
50 metres forward I'm pretty sure, only the team captain can speak to the ref
What if it's a 13m tap over free?

Move to in front of the goal on the 13, if he's yapping, book him or depending on what's coming out black card him.

Unfortunately shooting them wasn't brought in this time

The black card for yapping needs a bit more content than the regular gurning in fairness

I've used it a few times
Seems harsh if the player is giving out about a genuinely bad decision

Giving out, is this not what certain rules are trying to stop ? A change in culture, stopping refs being abused, as has been happening for decades? Players will soon learn, be respectful with all communications to the ref. It'll take time for certain players / sidelines to zip it, verbally abusing the ref is just something they've always done, not anymore

This is it.

Those people who choose to unleash fury on referees rarely, if ever, care one f**k about whether it's a good decision or a bad decision, they just don't want this decision or any future decisions going against their team.

thebigfullforward

Quote from: JoG2 on January 30, 2025, 08:55:02 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 30, 2025, 08:45:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 10:24:28 PM
Quote from: jay110 on January 29, 2025, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 09:53:57 PMWhat is the punishment for yapping at the ref for giving a free against you?
50 metres forward I'm pretty sure, only the team captain can speak to the ref
What if it's a 13m tap over free?

Move to in front of the goal on the 13, if he's yapping, book him or depending on what's coming out black card him.

Unfortunately shooting them wasn't brought in this time

The black card for yapping needs a bit more content than the regular gurning in fairness

I've used it a few times
Seems harsh if the player is giving out about a genuinely bad decision

Giving out, is this not what certain rules are trying to stop ? A change in culture, stopping refs being abused, as has been happening for decades? Players will soon learn, be respectful with all communications to the ref. It'll take time for certain players / sidelines to zip it, verbally abusing the ref is just something they've always done, not anymore
I'm just thinking of the Errigal Killyclogher semi final where the ref gave a penalty for what looked like nothing. Still not sure what it was given for. Players are inevitably ask questions/complain. I'm not talking about full on abuse. I know there's some refs that would take things the wrong way and in the heat of the moment would give a black card

JoG2

Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 30, 2025, 09:14:47 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on January 30, 2025, 08:55:02 AM
Quote from: thebigfullforward on January 30, 2025, 08:45:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 29, 2025, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 10:24:28 PM
Quote from: jay110 on January 29, 2025, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 29, 2025, 09:53:57 PMWhat is the punishment for yapping at the ref for giving a free against you?
50 metres forward I'm pretty sure, only the team captain can speak to the ref
What if it's a 13m tap over free?

Move to in front of the goal on the 13, if he's yapping, book him or depending on what's coming out black card him.

Unfortunately shooting them wasn't brought in this time

The black card for yapping needs a bit more content than the regular gurning in fairness

I've used it a few times
Seems harsh if the player is giving out about a genuinely bad decision

Giving out, is this not what certain rules are trying to stop ? A change in culture, stopping refs being abused, as has been happening for decades? Players will soon learn, be respectful with all communications to the ref. It'll take time for certain players / sidelines to zip it, verbally abusing the ref is just something they've always done, not anymore
I'm just thinking of the Errigal Killyclogher semi final where the ref gave a penalty for what looked like nothing. Still not sure what it was given for. Players are inevitably ask questions/complain. I'm not talking about full on abuse. I know there's some refs that would take things the wrong way and in the heat of the moment would give a black card

Take things the wrong way? 'you're one useless cnut', 'a f**king r3tard'.. Blah blah blah... This is what ref's are currently getting. That's a black, rarely given.
Refs can be questioned, they can't be screamed at and called every useless so and so under the sun