NFL Division 1 2025

[Rossfan]

It's easy to see a scenario where Antrim are in an All-Ireland final against Dublin, .

That must be strong medication you're on

[Armagh18]

Not expecting one this weekend either!

Tbf we gave them one after '21, not sure if it was before the charity game or the McKenna cup game at the time.

Was that bad of an evening in Galway I'm sure neither team wanted to be standing about for it.

[Blowitupref]

All four games has live coverage this weekend.

Saturday
6pm: Armagh v Tyrone  - RTÉ 2
7.30pm: Donegal v Dublin - TG4

Sunday
12.30pm: Derry v Kerry - TG4
2.30pm: Mayo v Galway  - TG4

[Milltown Row2]

Looks like "Nordies against change" haven't gone away you know

Hasn't most of the innovation and change in the last 20 odd years come from the north? It's usually the Munster men crying out for a return to 'comely maidens dancing at the crossroads'!

The rules look largely good, although the 2-point arc is surely going to cause an awful row at some point as it must be so difficult for referees to judge if a player is just outside it or not. It's easy to see a scenario where Antrim are in an All-Ireland final against Dublin, two points down and with the last kick hit a score just on the edge of the arc. Referee says it was on the line so it's only a 1 point score, instead of 2 points to equalize.

One foot can be on the line and the other follows through its still a two pointer and I'll wake up and have my cornflakes when that happens

Well the same issue still applies. Was he on the line or slightly over? Some of those games at the weekend you could hardly see the line, and club games won't be any better. Some poor referee is going to end up taking awful grief after a big game.

Would need to be after the game cause if he's getting it during it he'll be spending a lot of time running 50 + meters

[p3427977]

All four games has live coverage this weekend.

Saturday
6pm: Armagh v Tyrone  - RTÉ 2
7.30pm: Donegal v Dublin - TG4

Sunday
12.30pm: Derry v Kerry - TG4
2.30pm: Mayo v Galway (F) - TG4

(F)?

[Blowitupref]

(F)?

Throw in time brought forward.

[David McKeown]

I think whilst there some positives that come from the new rules we also saw a lot of the negatives from them.

On a number of occasions a team benefitted from fouling a defender because it put the defence at the disadvantage of not being able to use their keeper.

Teams losing a man particularly against the wind are at an even bigger disadvantage

The punishment for 3v3 violations is more severe than any type of foul anywhere else on the pitch except fouls the result in penalties.

Also hard to officiate as tonight showed with linesmen making a couple of costly mistakes, 

3 v 3 and two pointers are a nonsense, but the solo and go I thought sped up the game.

I liked the solo and go to a large extent but I had a particular problem with the two pointers, the 3v3 and most especially the rule on the keeper being largely unable to get involved in his own half which in turn rewards fouling by the attacking team in that half

[lenny]

I think whilst there some positives that come from the new rules we also saw a lot of the negatives from them.

On a number of occasions a team benefitted from fouling a defender because it put the defence at the disadvantage of not being able to use their keeper.

Teams losing a man particularly against the wind are at an even bigger disadvantage

The punishment for 3v3 violations is more severe than any type of foul anywhere else on the pitch except fouls the result in penalties.

Also hard to officiate as tonight showed with linesmen making a couple of costly mistakes, 

3 v 3 and two pointers are a nonsense, but the solo and go I thought sped up the game.

I liked the solo and go to a large extent but I had a particular problem with the two pointers, the 3v3 and most especially the rule on the keeper being largely unable to get involved in his own half which in turn rewards fouling by the attacking team in that half

Persistent fouling should result in yellow cards so itd be a short term win to keep doing it. Refs need to be tuned in to it though and not let teams away with it.

[David McKeown]

I think whilst there some positives that come from the new rules we also saw a lot of the negatives from them.

On a number of occasions a team benefitted from fouling a defender because it put the defence at the disadvantage of not being able to use their keeper.



Teams losing a man particularly against the wind are at an even bigger disadvantage

The punishment for 3v3 violations is more severe than any type of foul anywhere else on the pitch except fouls the result in penalties.

Also hard to officiate as tonight showed with linesmen making a couple of costly mistakes, 

3 v 3 and two pointers are a nonsense, but the solo and go I thought sped up the game.

I liked the solo and go to a large extent but I had a particular problem with the two pointers, the 3v3 and most especially the rule on the keeper being largely unable to get involved in his own half which in turn rewards fouling by the attacking team in that half

Persistent fouling should result in yellow cards so itd be a short term win to keep doing it. Refs need to be tuned in to it though and not let teams away with it.

Doesnt need to be persistent to gain an advantage.  At least 5 times in the 2.5 matches i watched over the weekend the attacking team fouled the keeper preventing any form of solo and go.  They then pressed.  The defensive team effectively a man short on their own free because the keeper couldnt be used then struggled to get out of their own half.  Each time a score resulted as the team who had been the beneficiary of the free couldnt control the ball and get up the pitch.  That shouldnt happen a team should not be able to benefit from their own foul

[Armagh18]

I think whilst there some positives that come from the new rules we also saw a lot of the negatives from them.

On a number of occasions a team benefitted from fouling a defender because it put the defence at the disadvantage of not being able to use their keeper.

Teams losing a man particularly against the wind are at an even bigger disadvantage

The punishment for 3v3 violations is more severe than any type of foul anywhere else on the pitch except fouls the result in penalties.

Also hard to officiate as tonight showed with linesmen making a couple of costly mistakes, 

3 v 3 and two pointers are a nonsense, but the solo and go I thought sped up the game.

I liked the solo and go to a large extent but I had a particular problem with the two pointers, the 3v3 and most especially the rule on the keeper being largely unable to get involved in his own half which in turn rewards fouling by the attacking team in that half

Persistent fouling should result in yellow cards so itd be a short term win to keep doing it. Refs need to be tuned in to it though and not let teams away with it.

Not really, if 3/4 players commit one or two fouls each they won't all get booked, but that's a fair few frees that you'll be under pressure with. Although theres always the solo and go.

[onefineday]

Watching Armagh highlights there, that option of taking a 3v3 breach out to by the 2pt line is a load of balls.

It's totally illogical, presume it just hadn't been properly considered until someone realised it might be an option. You'd imagine it'll be changed like they did with the 45m free.
I don't like the 2 pointers in general, I understand the thinking that it will help open up space in behind it, but it totally undermines the value of a goal and reduces the incentive to try and work one.
I think the gaa officials who insisted that the goal value be reduced back down to 3 to avoid hammerings in a few provincial games failed to understand how easy knocking over a few 2 pointers might be for quality teams playing weaker opposition. It's more likely they'll kick 4 or 5 2 pointers in such a game than 4 or 5 goals.
The 4 point goal would also help to change the equation around goalkeepers joining the attack and allowing that, albeit limited, tedious  keepball scenario to develop.

[Milltown Row2]

Watching Armagh highlights there, that option of taking a 3v3 breach out to by the 2pt line is a load of balls.

It's totally illogical, presume it just hadn't been properly considered until someone realised it might be an option. You'd imagine it'll be changed like they did with the 45m free.
I don't like the 2 pointers in general, I understand the thinking that it will help open up space in behind it, but it totally undermines the value of a goal and reduces the incentive to try and work one.
I think the gaa officials who insisted that the goal value be reduced back down to 3 to avoid hammerings in a few provincial games failed to understand how easy knocking over a few 2 pointers might be for quality teams playing weaker opposition. It's more likely they'll kick 4 or 5 2 pointers in such a game than 4 or 5 goals.
The 4 point goal would also help to change the equation around goalkeepers joining the attack and allowing that, albeit limited, tedious  keepball scenario to develop.

Not too many games have 4 or five goals in a team, unless its a club juvenile game

[jay110]

Watching Armagh highlights there, that option of taking a 3v3 breach out to by the 2pt line is a load of balls.

It's totally illogical, presume it just hadn't been properly considered until someone realised it might be an option. You'd imagine it'll be changed like they did with the 45m free.
I don't like the 2 pointers in general, I understand the thinking that it will help open up space in behind it, but it totally undermines the value of a goal and reduces the incentive to try and work one.
I think the gaa officials who insisted that the goal value be reduced back down to 3 to avoid hammerings in a few provincial games failed to understand how easy knocking over a few 2 pointers might be for quality teams playing weaker opposition. It's more likely they'll kick 4 or 5 2 pointers in such a game than 4 or 5 goals.
The 4 point goal would also help to change the equation around goalkeepers joining the attack and allowing that, albeit limited, tedious  keepball scenario to develop.

Not too many games have 4 or five goals in a team, unless its a club juvenile game

with a keeper playing half forward its very possible for goals to be scored nowadays. with 4 point goals these will happen much more often

[statto]

I think whilst there some positives that come from the new rules we also saw a lot of the negatives from them.

On a number of occasions a team benefitted from fouling a defender because it put the defence at the disadvantage of not being able to use their keeper.



Teams losing a man particularly against the wind are at an even bigger disadvantage

The punishment for 3v3 violations is more severe than any type of foul anywhere else on the pitch except fouls the result in penalties.

Also hard to officiate as tonight showed with linesmen making a couple of costly mistakes, 

3 v 3 and two pointers are a nonsense, but the solo and go I thought sped up the game.

I liked the solo and go to a large extent but I had a particular problem with the two pointers, the 3v3 and most especially the rule on the keeper being largely unable to get involved in his own half which in turn rewards fouling by the attacking team in that half

Persistent fouling should result in yellow cards so itd be a short term win to keep doing it. Refs need to be tuned in to it though and not let teams away with it.

Doesnt need to be persistent to gain an advantage.  At least 5 times in the 2.5 matches i watched over the weekend the attacking team fouled the keeper preventing any form of solo and go.  They then pressed.  The defensive team effectively a man short on their own free because the keeper couldnt be used then struggled to get out of their own half.  Each time a score resulted as the team who had been the beneficiary of the free couldnt control the ball and get up the pitch.  That shouldnt happen a team should not be able to benefit from their own foul

I think another player can take the solo and go but they would obviously need to be in close proximity to the keeper to do so.Is the keeper not allowed to use solo and go?Might be a tweak to the rule that may need amended as teams will target this when ball drops short just foul keeper.

[APM]

I think whilst there some positives that come from the new rules we also saw a lot of the negatives from them.

On a number of occasions a team benefitted from fouling a defender because it put the defence at the disadvantage of not being able to use their keeper.

Teams losing a man particularly against the wind are at an even bigger disadvantage

The punishment for 3v3 violations is more severe than any type of foul anywhere else on the pitch except fouls the result in penalties.

Also hard to officiate as tonight showed with linesmen making a couple of costly mistakes, 

There was an occasion where Blaine was fouled (high tackle) and the defender booked and when Hughes went to take the free there was nothing on and possession was given away again. Was there anything to stop him playing the solo and go even though the referee had stopped play to for the booking?