Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

Started by BennyCake, September 09, 2014, 12:47:26 PM

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AustinPowers

Quote from: Armagh18 on January 23, 2025, 10:50:07 PM
Quote from: Leftmidfield on January 23, 2025, 09:50:40 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 23, 2025, 04:03:41 PMWill any rule be dropped after the first 2 Rounds of NFL?
No. As per Jim Gavin on The GAA Social this week
Possible later in the league but unlikely he reckons. The handing the ball back needs to go immediately.

1,000 % . Stupid bloody rule

I'm surprised they  didn't bring in the naughty  corner for  failing to do that one

JoG2

Quote from: AustinPowers on January 23, 2025, 11:36:51 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 23, 2025, 10:50:07 PM
Quote from: Leftmidfield on January 23, 2025, 09:50:40 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 23, 2025, 04:03:41 PMWill any rule be dropped after the first 2 Rounds of NFL?
No. As per Jim Gavin on The GAA Social this week
Possible later in the league but unlikely he reckons. The handing the ball back needs to go immediately.

1,000 % . Stupid bloody rule

I'm surprised they  didn't bring in the naughty  corner for  failing to do that one

Austin, not too late to book a long weekend in the Canaries

tiempo

1 v 1 for the hop ball to start the game, unnecessary basketball tripe, gross overthink, its not GAA anymore, its Jim Gavins vision for homogeneous football

Rossfan

If that's your only problem with the new rules you have little to worry about.
Anyway there used to be 16 lined up for throw ins up to the 1960s.
Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

tiempo

The 2 point score is a very unfair level of jeopardy for a team defending a 1 point lead in the dying embers e.g. Errigal point v Crokes that would have won them the game as a 2 pointer, doesn't sit well that teams will lose huge crunch games under those circumstances

Unnecessary basketball-isms

Saffron_sam20

Quote from: tiempo on January 24, 2025, 10:41:39 AMThe 2 point score is a very unfair level of jeopardy for a team defending a 1 point lead in the dying embers e.g. Errigal point v Crokes that would have won them the game as a 2 pointer, doesn't sit well that teams will lose huge crunch games under those circumstances

Unnecessary basketball-isms

Agreed, big wind 2nd half and you're elected. At least in basketball you don't have the elements lol

statto

Quote from: Armagh18 on January 23, 2025, 10:50:07 PM
Quote from: Leftmidfield on January 23, 2025, 09:50:40 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 23, 2025, 04:03:41 PMWill any rule be dropped after the first 2 Rounds of NFL?
No. As per Jim Gavin on The GAA Social this week
Possible later in the league but unlikely he reckons. The handing the ball back needs to go immediately.
Just set the ball down, shut your mouth and play on which players will have been told from 6 years of age. 

blanketattack

#1687
Can the GAA commit to keeping the 40m arc long term?

For my own club's astro, like most astros I presume, they can't just paint the 40m arc, they have to relay those entire sections of astro with new pre-painted arc sections.
I guess we'll just keep the old sections in storage just in case.

It's a 1st world problem in gaa terms. My complaints feel a bit like Pee Flynn on the Late Late Show.

statto

Quote from: tiempo on January 24, 2025, 10:41:39 AMThe 2 point score is a very unfair level of jeopardy for a team defending a 1 point lead in the dying embers e.g. Errigal point v Crokes that would have won them the game as a 2 pointer, doesn't sit well that teams will lose huge crunch games under those circumstances

Unnecessary basketball-isms
Not a fan of the two pointer in general, but in your example above, it does provide more excitement for the neutral, does the team play for the draw or do they try to work it to a main shooter to get the one point win?

There is no easy way to lose tight championship games, don't think that has been changed by the new rules.  Taking away the penalties has actually made it a better format to decide who is the best team on the day.

blanketattack

Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on January 24, 2025, 10:45:19 AM
Quote from: tiempo on January 24, 2025, 10:41:39 AMThe 2 point score is a very unfair level of jeopardy for a team defending a 1 point lead in the dying embers e.g. Errigal point v Crokes that would have won them the game as a 2 pointer, doesn't sit well that teams will lose huge crunch games under those circumstances

Unnecessary basketball-isms

Agreed, big wind 2nd half and you're elected. At least in basketball you don't have the elements lol

Should always play with a strong wind in the 2nd half with the new rules.
You'll have 5 mins of extra playing time with 2 pointers plus you'll have the option of a 2 pointer at the end if the score dictates.

Teams will no longer go for goals when 3 points down with a minute to go, will take an easy point if on, and hope to get a 2 pointer.
Same with 4 points down, will try 2 2 pointers.

statto

Quote from: blanketattack on January 24, 2025, 11:01:27 AM
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on January 24, 2025, 10:45:19 AM
Quote from: tiempo on January 24, 2025, 10:41:39 AMThe 2 point score is a very unfair level of jeopardy for a team defending a 1 point lead in the dying embers e.g. Errigal point v Crokes that would have won them the game as a 2 pointer, doesn't sit well that teams will lose huge crunch games under those circumstances

Unnecessary basketball-isms

Agreed, big wind 2nd half and you're elected. At least in basketball you don't have the elements lol

Should always play with a strong wind in the 2nd half with the new rules.
You'll have 5 mins of extra playing time with 2 pointers plus you'll have the option of a 2 pointer at the end if the score dictates.

Teams will no longer go for goals when 3 points down with a minute to go, will take an easy point if on, and hope to get a 2 pointer.
Same with 4 points down, will try 2 2 pointers.
Depends though on the teams and level playing at. If you have 5/6 kickers from distance in the team fair enough, but the lower you go down the food chain the less common will be. 

With the 3 up rule as well it will be easier for a team to try and engineer a goal when chasing a game, especially if they have a goalkeeper who is competent on the ball and can create overloads. 

tiempo

Quote from: statto on January 24, 2025, 10:53:53 AM
Quote from: tiempo on January 24, 2025, 10:41:39 AMThe 2 point score is a very unfair level of jeopardy for a team defending a 1 point lead in the dying embers e.g. Errigal point v Crokes that would have won them the game as a 2 pointer, doesn't sit well that teams will lose huge crunch games under those circumstances

Unnecessary basketball-isms
Not a fan of the two pointer in general, but in your example above, it does provide more excitement for the neutral, does the team play for the draw or do they try to work it to a main shooter to get the one point win?

There is no easy way to lose tight championship games, don't think that has been changed by the new rules.  Taking away the penalties has actually made it a better format to decide who is the best team on the day.

Neutral excitement doesn't factor in for me. After a year slogging through pre-season, league, second pre-season, league, champ pre-season, county champ, provincial champ, into the all-Ireland series, the last thing you'd be worried about is neutrals or perceived levels of entertainment. Might as well have a point for a clean catch in MF from a kickout if aesthetics is the name of the game

A team in Tyrone lost a 4 point lead in 3 mins (2 points and a goal) to lose by a point under the current format, for the winning team it was a masterclass in persistence and staying calm under pressure, 2 pointers weren't needed and then of course you open the can of worms was he/wasn't he on the line/behind the line

statto

Quote from: tiempo on January 24, 2025, 11:40:13 AM
Quote from: statto on January 24, 2025, 10:53:53 AM
Quote from: tiempo on January 24, 2025, 10:41:39 AMThe 2 point score is a very unfair level of jeopardy for a team defending a 1 point lead in the dying embers e.g. Errigal point v Crokes that would have won them the game as a 2 pointer, doesn't sit well that teams will lose huge crunch games under those circumstances

Unnecessary basketball-isms
Not a fan of the two pointer in general, but in your example above, it does provide more excitement for the neutral, does the team play for the draw or do they try to work it to a main shooter to get the one point win?

There is no easy way to lose tight championship games, don't think that has been changed by the new rules.  Taking away the penalties has actually made it a better format to decide who is the best team on the day.

Neutral excitement doesn't factor in for me. After a year slogging through pre-season, league, second pre-season, league, champ pre-season, county champ, provincial champ, into the all-Ireland series, the last thing you'd be worried about is neutrals or perceived levels of entertainment. Might as well have a point for a clean catch in MF from a kickout if aesthetics is the name of the game

A team in Tyrone lost a 4 point lead in 3 mins (2 points and a goal) to lose by a point under the current format, for the winning team it was a masterclass in persistence and staying calm under pressure, 2 pointers weren't needed and then of course you open the can of worms was he/wasn't he on the line/behind the line

The reason for the rule changes is that the game had become too pedestrian and the aim of the rule changes is that the sport becomes more watchable and entertaining?

I don't see the difference in if you are 3 up and you lose the game by the opponent scoring 2 x2 pointers or a goal and a point.  The rules are the same for both sides and the team leading by 3 would need to review their game management in that scenario. 

If you comeback from 4 down in the dying minutes to win in any format your persistence will need applauded.  In the scenario being 4 down if someone goes for a two pointer and nails it you would have to commend them for taking it on as if the ball goes wide or short likelyhood is games over?

Rossfan

"Skills people wanted to see, kick-passing, high-fielding, long-range scores, one to one contests, and goals, they're going to see plenty of that over the seven rounds of the National League."
Says Jim G.
Why does he expect loads of kick passing while his group left handpassing untouched???

Play the game and play it fairly
Play the game like Dermot Earley.

JoG2

How many games have you boys watched to be giving the new rules both barrels? 🤔