Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[Milltown Row2]

I don't see it being changed tbh, I think they'll let it go for the year and review it, I'd say most competent referees will do ok and will generally get most things right, like they would in most games, but at the minute, they really need to finalise the query's that have been flagged up and nail it before we get up and running, the 3v3 in defence isn't the biggy for me, I really think that will look after itself as the consequences mean a score, the talk back will result in a score, the obstruction for a free will result in a score, they will be addressed by managers very early on.

 

[statto]

Too many changes & too many variables for club refs to implement in one go !

I'm not entirely sure we will see a move away from defence football

I think any team will be saying to themselves will we leave 3 v 3 up front and decide it's not worth the risk.
Teams can still defend with uo to 11 players and I think they'll be working on that over this time of year.

Teams will certainly be looking at how their defensive structure looks in the new world.  The kickout rule will help as teams can get the ball moving straight away.  Teams with a good kicking game will be able to create opportunities before the opposition gets a set defence of 11 back.

[Milltown Row2]

Too many changes & too many variables for club refs to implement in one go !

I'm not entirely sure we will see a move away from defence football

I think any team will be saying to themselves will we leave 3 v 3 up front and decide it's not worth the risk.
Teams can still defend with uo to 11 players and I think they'll be working on that over this time of year.

Teams will certainly be looking at how their defensive structure looks in the new world.  The kickout rule will help as teams can get the ball moving straight away.  Teams with a good kicking game will be able to create opportunities before the opposition gets a set defence of 11 back.

Cant wait for those blizzard days when the wind is blowing a gale down one end of the pitch and the keeper can't kick the ball ten yards never mind out past the 40m arc

[statto]

Too many changes & too many variables for club refs to implement in one go !

I'm not entirely sure we will see a move away from defence football

I think any team will be saying to themselves will we leave 3 v 3 up front and decide it's not worth the risk.
Teams can still defend with uo to 11 players and I think they'll be working on that over this time of year.

Teams will certainly be looking at how their defensive structure looks in the new world.  The kickout rule will help as teams can get the ball moving straight away.  Teams with a good kicking game will be able to create opportunities before the opposition gets a set defence of 11 back.

Cant wait for those blizzard days when the wind is blowing a gale down one end of the pitch and the keeper can't kick the ball ten yards never mind out past the 40m arc

To be fair the blizzard days the games ruined as a spectacle regardless. 

[Rossfan]

Is it a free in from ....where?
Or a hop ball on the 20 if kick out doesn't reach the arc??

[Milltown Row2]

Too many changes & too many variables for club refs to implement in one go !

I'm not entirely sure we will see a move away from defence football

I think any team will be saying to themselves will we leave 3 v 3 up front and decide it's not worth the risk.
Teams can still defend with uo to 11 players and I think they'll be working on that over this time of year.

Teams will certainly be looking at how their defensive structure looks in the new world.  The kickout rule will help as teams can get the ball moving straight away.  Teams with a good kicking game will be able to create opportunities before the opposition gets a set defence of 11 back.

Cant wait for those blizzard days when the wind is blowing a gale down one end of the pitch and the keeper can't kick the ball ten yards never mind out past the 40m arc

To be fair the blizzard days the games ruined as a spectacle regardless. 

So we should just go home and wait for the sunny days to play?

[Brendan]

Is it a free in from ....where?
Or a hop ball on the 20 if kick out doesn't reach the arc??

Depends on the ref

[statto]

Too many changes & too many variables for club refs to implement in one go !

I'm not entirely sure we will see a move away from defence football

I think any team will be saying to themselves will we leave 3 v 3 up front and decide it's not worth the risk.
Teams can still defend with uo to 11 players and I think they'll be working on that over this time of year.

Teams will certainly be looking at how their defensive structure looks in the new world.  The kickout rule will help as teams can get the ball moving straight away.  Teams with a good kicking game will be able to create opportunities before the opposition gets a set defence of 11 back.

Cant wait for those blizzard days when the wind is blowing a gale down one end of the pitch and the keeper can't kick the ball ten yards never mind out past the 40m arc

Will be interesting to see the tactical take on this from managers too, traditionally teams will slow the clock down etc but that only encourages the high press from the opposition and the keeper will need to get it out of the 40m arc or concede a free. The keeper depending on his length of kick out might be better getting the ball away as quick as they can and make the outfield players more accountable for managing possession out the field. 

[statto]

Too many changes & too many variables for club refs to implement in one go !

I'm not entirely sure we will see a move away from defence football

I think any team will be saying to themselves will we leave 3 v 3 up front and decide it's not worth the risk.
Teams can still defend with uo to 11 players and I think they'll be working on that over this time of year.

Teams will certainly be looking at how their defensive structure looks in the new world.  The kickout rule will help as teams can get the ball moving straight away.  Teams with a good kicking game will be able to create opportunities before the opposition gets a set defence of 11 back.

Cant wait for those blizzard days when the wind is blowing a gale down one end of the pitch and the keeper can't kick the ball ten yards never mind out past the 40m arc

To be fair the blizzard days the games ruined as a spectacle regardless. 

So we should just go home and wait for the sunny days to play?

Yes that is exactly what I said . I am saying that in a blizzard football is hard to watch regardless if it is played under the new or old rules. 

[Blowitupref]

Clare manager Peter Keane.

"It is a new game, I don't think there is any other way of describing it," Keane told Clare FM.

"Even though there are seven or eight rule changes, there are somewhere in the mid-40s of different actual rule changes to facilitate them. I think there are too many changes, to be honest. I think we've made a new game out of it. I think we've done too much, too fast. But we are stuck with them now, so we will only have to get on with them.

"The general consensus is that it did need something radical. Again, I am not so sure about the word radical, whether it was to be required. There were still plenty of good games.

"I saw Dublin-Galway last year, a very good game. Galway-Donegal in the All-Ireland semi-final was certainly no bad game. I saw plenty of club games in Kerry this year and there was a lot of good football played. It is hard to say there was a lot of change required."

"This thing of three up, people are just assuming there will only be three guys marking them and that there will be acres of ground there. I am not so sure it will be left as simple as that. Coaches won't leave three defenders isolated against three forwards."

"I like the idea of two guys in for the throw-in because I think there was a lot of hoofing and shuffling and rooting and tearing went on. There was a lot of fouls going on, fouls that were probably being left go, so I don't think that is a bad move."

"I'd like to play an attractive game, if you can," he continued. "It depends on your raw materials. If you've good forwards, you want to create space for them and you want them to develop as the game goes on. But if you don't have the forwards, then you have got to come up with something else.

"By and large, most managers don't overly worry about a spectacle, but at the same time, we do get involved because we love the game and you are anxious to see quality players show their skills."

[gallsman]

Interesting clip going around from a challenge match last week between Derry and Cavan. Cavan got a goal after a player, rather than perform "solo and go" instead "went and then soloed".

Ref apparently didn't have a clue but subsequently the FRC have clarified that this is legal, and the player can take the usual four steps before a solo as part of "solo and go" rather than have to take a solo in the style of a rugby "tap and go".

Making it up as they go along.

[marty34]

Interesting clip going around from a challenge match last week between Cork and Cavan. Cavan got a goal after a player, rather than perform "solo and go" instead "went and then soloed".

Ref apparently didn't have a clue but subsequently the FRC have clarified that this is legal, and the player can take the usual four steps before a solo as part of "solo and go" rather than have to take a solo in the style of a rugby "tap and go".

Making it up as they go along.

Will defintely speed things up rather than the rugby'tap and go'.

Good to see this clarified but pity it comes to this a few days out from the start of league.

There'll definately be issues with the new rules.

 

[Armagh18]

Interesting clip going around from a challenge match last week between Cork and Cavan. Cavan got a goal after a player, rather than perform "solo and go" instead "went and then soloed".

Ref apparently didn't have a clue but subsequently the FRC have clarified that this is legal, and the player can take the usual four steps before a solo as part of "solo and go" rather than have to take a solo in the style of a rugby "tap and go".

Making it up as they go along.

"Previously, a player could not take a free without the referee's permission. Now however, a player who is
fouled can solo (Toe-Tap) immediately, within 4m of where the foul occurred, and continue to attack. If
they solo & go they cannot be challenged for 4m. A solo & go is not permitted inside the opponent's 20m
line. Any player can avail of the solo & go, it is not confined to the player who was fouled. However, the solo
& go must be done instantly and in either a forwards or sideways direction."

Clear as mud. 

[gallsman]

Are the four steps before the solo actually four steps though? Or the 6-10 steps players are habitually allowed in open play. Can the player be tackled in the four steps before he takes his solo.

[Armagh18]

Are the four steps before the solo actually four steps though? Or the 6-10 steps players are habitually allowed in open play. Can the player be tackled in the four steps before he takes his solo.

Cannot be challenged for 4 metres. How that will be measured I don't know.