Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

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Captain Scarlet

Paul Conroy kicking long range points is not a new thing but now it's a huge boost, and you'd hope lads who can kick from distance will let rip a bt more. Rian O'Neill will be another serious weapon this season.

But, it's a thing whereby if you don't have those lads then teams with poorer set-ups will be trying to get these shots away and miss.

On the flip in terms of the 12 v 11 with the goalies, I'd argue some teams won't want another body added to the mix. I know Kildare forwards tend to be the best opposition defenders at times when they run on top and bottle each other up.



them mysterons are always killing me but im grand after a few days.sickenin aul dose all the same.

Pocs pints and the gaa

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on January 05, 2025, 12:40:11 PMPaul Conroy kicking long range points is not a new thing but now it's a huge boost, and you'd hope lads who can kick from distance will let rip a bt more. Rian O'Neill will be another serious weapon this season.

But, it's a thing whereby if you don't have those lads then teams with poorer set-ups will be trying to get these shots away and miss.

On the flip in terms of the 12 v 11 with the goalies, I'd argue some teams won't want another body added to the mix. I know Kildare forwards tend to be the best opposition defenders at times when they run on top and bottle each other up.





Word is Rian O'Neill won't be kicking two pointers in county colours this year.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on January 05, 2025, 08:05:42 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on January 05, 2025, 12:40:11 PMPaul Conroy kicking long range points is not a new thing but now it's a huge boost, and you'd hope lads who can kick from distance will let rip a bt more. Rian O'Neill will be another serious weapon this season.

But, it's a thing whereby if you don't have those lads then teams with poorer set-ups will be trying to get these shots away and miss.

On the flip in terms of the 12 v 11 with the goalies, I'd argue some teams won't want another body added to the mix. I know Kildare forwards tend to be the best opposition defenders at times when they run on top and bottle each other up.





Word is Rian O'Neill won't be kicking two pointers in county colours this year.

Injuries or taking a rest?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Armagh18

Quote from: Pocs pints and the gaa on January 05, 2025, 08:05:42 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on January 05, 2025, 12:40:11 PMPaul Conroy kicking long range points is not a new thing but now it's a huge boost, and you'd hope lads who can kick from distance will let rip a bt more. Rian O'Neill will be another serious weapon this season.

But, it's a thing whereby if you don't have those lads then teams with poorer set-ups will be trying to get these shots away and miss.

On the flip in terms of the 12 v 11 with the goalies, I'd argue some teams won't want another body added to the mix. I know Kildare forwards tend to be the best opposition defenders at times when they run on top and bottle each other up.





Word is Rian O'Neill won't be kicking two pointers in county colours this year.
He'll be back.

Blowitupref

#1609
Journalist Maurice Brosnan who attended Mayo v Monaghan challenge last night.

QuoteNo two-pointers.
Mayo dropped ten shots short. Finished with 43% conversion.
Lots of contested kickouts. 59% retention for Mayo, 50% for Monaghan
Rory Beggan had 22 possessions.

Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Milltown Row2

Seen another amendment to the rules, if a free is given outside the 40m arc and the ref moves it forward for dissent say, the resulting free will result in 2 points, as the original free was from outside..


Would stop those cute hoors slabbering to get the free down to a 1 pointer  ;)
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Smokin Joe

Nope.  The free taker has the choice to take it from outside the arc for 2 points, or else take it right in for 1 point

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Smokin Joe on January 07, 2025, 10:17:05 PMNope.  The free taker has the choice to take it from outside the arc for 2 points, or else take it right in for 1 point

Like I said I just seen it on an amended/expanded document
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Duine Inteacht Eile

Saw that myself.
Fcuk knows what we'll end up with by the time a ball is thrown in.

statto

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on January 07, 2025, 10:24:51 PMSaw that myself.
Fcuk knows what we'll end up with by the time a ball is thrown in.

It's extremely unfair on the club teams on this that they could be training on these new rules and then at the 11th hour a rule can be changed.  Also tough on coaches who may be working on something particular to give them a competitive advantage and the GAA reserve the right to change the rule if they decide a week or two before a league season starts.  This GAA is for all narrative is a load of nonsense, the changing of all these rules is to ensure that the three big games in Croke Park i.e. AI semi finals and finals are shown in a good light to a wider audience, but two fingers up to the junior/intermediate clubs and the referees at this level that have to facilitate all the change. 

Smokin Joe

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2025, 10:21:24 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on January 07, 2025, 10:17:05 PMNope.  The free taker has the choice to take it from outside the arc for 2 points, or else take it right in for 1 point

Like I said I just seen it on an amended/expanded document

Only yesterday the GAA launched this video that says they can take it outside the 40m arc for 2 points (link below).
If what you are saying is correct then talk about confusion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dkc87y65xw&t=1235s

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Smokin Joe on January 08, 2025, 09:02:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2025, 10:21:24 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on January 07, 2025, 10:17:05 PMNope.  The free taker has the choice to take it from outside the arc for 2 points, or else take it right in for 1 point

Like I said I just seen it on an amended/expanded document

Only yesterday the GAA launched this video that says they can take it outside the 40m arc for 2 points (link below).
If what you are saying is correct then talk about confusion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dkc87y65xw&t=1235s

Yeah its disorganised and each scenario throws up a question mark it seems, I'm happy to apply that rule as it will again cut out the slabbering, and players will eventually concentrate on tackling the BALL not the man and when a free is given, walk away when the whistle is blown, regardless of whether they think its not
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Smokin Joe

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2025, 09:05:42 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on January 08, 2025, 09:02:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 07, 2025, 10:21:24 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on January 07, 2025, 10:17:05 PMNope.  The free taker has the choice to take it from outside the arc for 2 points, or else take it right in for 1 point

Like I said I just seen it on an amended/expanded document

Only yesterday the GAA launched this video that says they can take it outside the 40m arc for 2 points (link below).
If what you are saying is correct then talk about confusion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Dkc87y65xw&t=1235s

Yeah its disorganised and each scenario throws up a question mark it seems, I'm happy to apply that rule as it will again cut out the slabbering, and players will eventually concentrate on tackling the BALL not the man and when a free is given, walk away when the whistle is blown, regardless of whether they think its not

I wonder what would drive a change to that rule.  It's up to the kicking team, do you want to take the guaranteed 1 point as they slabbered or do you want to take the trickier shot worth 2 points?  That does seem fine.  I wonder why they are tinkering with that decision at this late stage as I can't see any drawback to it

Saffron_sam20

Read Andy McEntee article in the Irish news (think yesterday's paper as I read it online) he makes really good points, a team of micd up officials will struggle to get the rules right and we are expecting club referees to get it right? and they will make mistakes, lots of them, what will make things worse at club level is that any dissent will then get the ball moved 50m, its far too excessive.

MR2 is any talk to the ref classed as 'dissent' I see refs talk to players during a game and you hear players saying after a free 'ah no you got that wrong' is that going to get the ball moved 50m?

samuel maguire

Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on January 08, 2025, 09:26:47 AMRead Andy McEntee article in the Irish news (think yesterday's paper as I read it online) he makes really good points, a team of micd up officials will struggle to get the rules right and we are expecting club referees to get it right? and they will make mistakes, lots of them, what will make things worse at club level is that any dissent will then get the ball moved 50m, its far too excessive.

MR2 is any talk to the ref classed as 'dissent' I see refs talk to players during a game and you hear players saying after a free 'ah no you got that wrong' is that going to get the ball moved 50m?
Great point. What if a player turns and says ' awh come on now i hardly touched him'. Is something like that deemed as descent?
Probably depends on the ref id say