All Ireland Club Hurling Championships 2024/2025 (SHC, IHC & JHC)

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Dag Dog

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on December 15, 2024, 04:46:05 PMThat's running around fist pumping after winning frees pathetic, GAA players getting worse that scoccer players
Tipperary started that trend about 10 years ago.

Cyril Farrell fan

Loughrea will regret that one for years. They were better than Na Fianna for most of the game. Didn't kill it off!

marty34

How is Owens an inter-county referee?

From the first whistle, Brendan Rogers was being pull and dragged off the ball every time he made a run for the ball, especially on puck outs.

Owens then, after seeing it happen once again when the defender wrestled Rogers again, he booked the 2 of them. A new Sarsfields man was then put on Rogers and he proceeded to do the same thing.

Then in a crucial juncture in second half, a Sarsfield lad run about 12 steps through the middle, Owens put the whistle to his mouth to blow for overcarrying and he then let him take and 2 steps and put the ball over the bar. A brutal decision.

I think Shane Mc Guigan should have had a free out at the end. Men pulling out of him and he blew him for overcarrying.

gallsman

Quote from: marty34 on December 15, 2024, 07:55:47 PMI think Shane Mc Guigan should have had a free out at the end. Men pulling out of him and he blew him for overcarrying.

Not a chance.

JoG2

Quote from: marty34 on December 15, 2024, 07:55:47 PMHow is Owens an inter-county referee?

From the first whistle, Brendan Rogers was being pull and dragged off the ball every time he made a run for the ball, especially on puck outs.

Owens then, after seeing it happen once again when the defender wrestled Rogers again, he booked the 2 of them. A new Sarsfields man was then put on Rogers and he proceeded to do the same thing.

Then in a crucial juncture in second half, a Sarsfield lad run about 12 steps through the middle, Owens put the whistle to his mouth to blow for overcarrying and he then let him take and 2 steps and put the ball over the bar. A brutal decision.

I think Shane Mc Guigan should have had a free out at the end. Men pulling out of him and he blew him for overcarrying.

Was out all day and just watched the game as live there... How Sarsfields didn't finish with 13 men on the pitch I'll never know. Hard to get your head around some of those calls.

marty34

Quote from: JoG2 on December 15, 2024, 08:17:03 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 15, 2024, 07:55:47 PMHow is Owens an inter-county referee?

From the first whistle, Brendan Rogers was being pull and dragged off the ball every time he made a run for the ball, especially on puck outs.

Owens then, after seeing it happen once again when the defender wrestled Rogers again, he booked the 2 of them. A new Sarsfields man was then put on Rogers and he proceeded to do the same thing.

Then in a crucial juncture in second half, a Sarsfield lad run about 12 steps through the middle, Owens put the whistle to his mouth to blow for overcarrying and he then let him take and 2 steps and put the ball over the bar. A brutal decision.

I think Shane Mc Guigan should have had a free out at the end. Men pulling out of him and he blew him for overcarrying.

Was out all day and just watched the game as live there... How Sarsfields didn't finish with 13 men on the pitch I'll never know. Hard to get your head around some of those calls.

A disgrace. Owens clearly wanted to keep 15 Sars men on pitch for the full game.

He was, for a high level referee, very poor. Looked out of his depth.

SpeculativeEffort

Quote from: gallsman on December 15, 2024, 08:00:38 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 15, 2024, 07:55:47 PMI think Shane Mc Guigan should have had a free out at the end. Men pulling out of him and he blew him for overcarrying.

Not a chance.

Both referees today managed to get in the way at crucial points. McGrath blew McGuigan for overcarrying while actually being in the way himself. He was almost like an extra defender. Heartbreaking for Slaughtneil.

Truthsayer

Does a team ever lose now without ones blaming the ref? Slaughneil beat themselves unfortunately

marty34

Quote from: gallsman on December 15, 2024, 08:00:38 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 15, 2024, 07:55:47 PMI think Shane Mc Guigan should have had a free out at the end. Men pulling out of him and he blew him for overcarrying.

Not a chance.

What?

In the context of what went before?

gallsman

Precisely. McGuigan (who I thought was largely terrific) had the chance to move that ball and didn't.

If that was a free against him, you could go back through the whole 66 minutes and find 50 other instances where you'd be looking for a free.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Truthsayer on December 15, 2024, 09:12:36 PMDoes a team ever lose now without ones blaming the ref? Slaughneil beat themselves unfortunately

Yes and no, some calls were marginal also a strike to the back of the head is verging on a red in my book.  I'm not saying it was intentional but you've a duty of care coming in like that and connecting to the head.

But yeah few frees went astray, and that last chance, I'm sure he'll play that over a few times tonight
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

ONeill

Apart from the goal chance, Rogers and McGuigan missed reasonably easy-ish points in the second half. Sarsfields were far more efficient.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

ardtole

If a Slaughtneil man had to have connected with a Sarsfields man's helmet similar to the controversial incident I think he would have got a red card.

There was a blatant push on the back by the Sarsfields corner back towards the end of the game, instead of a free in resulted in a Sarsfields attack.

The overcarrying incidents that were not pulled up was ridiculous, at least 4 blatant cases.

I honestly think Slaughtneil were very harshly dealt with.

JoG2

Quote from: Truthsayer on December 15, 2024, 09:12:36 PMDoes a team ever lose now without ones blaming the ref? Slaughneil beat themselves unfortunately

Did Slaughtneil spurn a goal chance and a few frees which would / could have won them the match, absolutely.

Did the ref make a haims of a couple of glaringly obvious fouls which should have had Sarsfields down to 13 men which would / could have seen Slaughtneil progress, absolutely.

It's not very often you see a ref have such an influence in a hurling game though, happens in football often

gallsman

Quote from: ardtole on December 15, 2024, 10:47:37 PMIf a Slaughtneil man had to have connected with a Sarsfields man's helmet similar to the controversial incident I think he would have got a red card.

There was a blatant push on the back by the Sarsfields corner back towards the end of the game, instead of a free in resulted in a Sarsfields attack.

The overcarrying incidents that were not pulled up was ridiculous, at least 4 blatant cases.

I honestly think Slaughtneil were very harshly dealt with.

I thought they were given a fair few soft frees too. If O'Doherty had put them over, maybe it would be Sarsfields lads whining about Owens screwing them. I thought he was a bit fussy but there's no suggestion in my mind that he didn't call it down the middle, the helmet tap/red card incident aside where, as already said, I think if he'd flashed a red, Sars could have had no complaints. I don't think it was a "strike" btw, don't think it was even a jab, more like a careless/reckless wave.