Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[bennydorano]

Armagh A v Armagh B today under the new rules (live & free on Armagh TV). You honestly couldn't tell its under new rules and the FRC might not be pleased as it is pretty much the same old....

[Armagh18]

Armagh A v Armagh B today under the new rules (live & free on Armagh TV). You honestly couldn't tell its under new rules and the FRC might not be pleased as it is pretty much the same old....

Haven't watched it yet but sure that was always gonna happen, possession is key, but you'd imagine only having 12 back will help

[Smokin Joe]

Armagh A v Armagh B today under the new rules (live & free on Armagh TV). You honestly couldn't tell its under new rules and the FRC might not be pleased as it is pretty much the same old....

The only real difference is the place on the pitch the keepers have possession.  But they still have slow and ponderous possessions.
I noticed one time in the first half Soupy went back into his own half as his team was attacking to get an errant pass, as he went back into his own half one of the other men back ran forward at pace to join the attack.  That is fine.  But it meant Soupy was one of the 3 players back in his own half when his team were attacking and he couldn't join them as there was no one else close enough to him to swap with him.
Teams need to be careful not to get caught in a position like that!!!

[statto]

Anyone on the b team

Armagh A v Armagh B today under the new rules (live & free on Armagh TV). You honestly couldn't tell its under new rules and the FRC might not be pleased as it is pretty much the same old....

Haven't watched it yet but sure that was always gonna happen, possession is key, but you'd imagine only having 12 back will help

Anyone on b team put  their hand up?

[thebigfullforward]

Armagh A v Armagh B today under the new rules (live & free on Armagh TV). You honestly couldn't tell its under new rules and the FRC might not be pleased as it is pretty much the same old....

Not sure why anyone thought it would be different. Managers are always going to find loopholes in the rules to give them the best chance of winning. Can see it being a bit more attacking but in the top games it isn't going to be like what was displayed during the railway cup

[twohands!!!]

Armagh A v Armagh B today under the new rules (live & free on Armagh TV). You honestly couldn't tell its under new rules and the FRC might not be pleased as it is pretty much the same old....

The thing is though the FRC were somewhat limited in terms of what they could do at this stage.
The knew there was no point in coming up with rules that would improve the game if there was no chance of them being implementted.

If these rules don't have as much impact as the FRC hoped and teams continue to go out and play dour and defensive football, then I'd say it will be only a matter of months before the rules are improved further to penalise defensive dour football given that's what the majority of folk want to see.

Also I wouldn't exactly be shocked if Geezer had told both teams to play conservatively given he would know the game was being televised and there would likely be interested observers from other counties tuning in.

[Armagh18]

Armagh A v Armagh B today under the new rules (live & free on Armagh TV). You honestly couldn't tell its under new rules and the FRC might not be pleased as it is pretty much the same old....

The thing is though the FRC were somewhat limited in terms of what they could do at this stage.
The knew there was no point in coming up with rules that would improve the game if there was no chance of them being implementted.

If these rules don't have as much impact as the FRC hoped and teams continue to go out and play dour and defensive football, then I'd say it will be only a matter of months before the rules are improved further to penalise defensive dour football given that's what the majority of folk want to see.

Also I wouldn't exactly be shocked if Geezer had told both teams to play conservatively given he would know the game was being televised and there would likely be interested observers from other counties tuning in.

Would he be that bothered?

What other rules could be brought in do you think that weren't trialled?

[twohands!!!]

Armagh A v Armagh B today under the new rules (live & free on Armagh TV). You honestly couldn't tell its under new rules and the FRC might not be pleased as it is pretty much the same old....

The thing is though the FRC were somewhat limited in terms of what they could do at this stage.
The knew there was no point in coming up with rules that would improve the game if there was no chance of them being implementted.

If these rules don't have as much impact as the FRC hoped and teams continue to go out and play dour and defensive football, then I'd say it will be only a matter of months before the rules are improved further to penalise defensive dour football given that's what the majority of folk want to see.

Also I wouldn't exactly be shocked if Geezer had told both teams to play conservatively given he would know the game was being televised and there would likely be interested observers from other counties tuning in.

Would he be that bothered?

What other rules could be brought in do you think that weren't trialled?

Of course he'd be bothered.

Off the top of my head some random shouts - man-on-man defending only i.e. if a 2nd player tackles a player in possession then a free to the player in possession - increase the number of players kept forward - make it illegal for a goalie to tackle a player -  increase the value of a goal to 4/5/6 points - reduce teams to 14/13/12 - I'm sure that the lads on the FRC had a whole raft of other stuff if they needed to punish teams adopting a low-risk defensive approach if the new rules don't improve matters.

[thebigfullforward]

Armagh A v Armagh B today under the new rules (live & free on Armagh TV). You honestly couldn't tell its under new rules and the FRC might not be pleased as it is pretty much the same old....

The thing is though the FRC were somewhat limited in terms of what they could do at this stage.
The knew there was no point in coming up with rules that would improve the game if there was no chance of them being implementted.

If these rules don't have as much impact as the FRC hoped and teams continue to go out and play dour and defensive football, then I'd say it will be only a matter of months before the rules are improved further to penalise defensive dour football given that's what the majority of folk want to see.

Also I wouldn't exactly be shocked if Geezer had told both teams to play conservatively given he would know the game was being televised and there would likely be interested observers from other counties tuning in.

Would he be that bothered?

What other rules could be brought in do you think that weren't trialled?

Of course he'd be bothered.

Off the top of my head some random shouts - man-on-man defending only i.e. if a 2nd player tackles a player in possession then a free to the player in possession - increase the number of players kept forward - make it illegal for a goalie to tackle a player -  increase the value of a goal to 4/5/6 points - reduce teams to 14/13/12 - I'm sure that the lads on the FRC had a whole raft of other stuff if they needed to punish teams adopting a low-risk defensive approach if the new rules don't improve matters.

No matter what rules are brought in managers will always find a loophole to diminish the positive aspect. I couldn't see any of these working

[Rossfan]

I see the new 2 pointers have to be kicked cleanly over the bar.
Any deflections (or hitting bar or post???) = 1 point.

[thewobbler]

I see the new 2 pointers have to be kicked cleanly over the bar.
Any deflections (or hitting bar or post???) = 1 point.

I'm a struggling with the rationale behind this one. It's having extra rules for the sake of having rules.

[Armagh18]

I see the new 2 pointers have to be kicked cleanly over the bar.
Any deflections (or hitting bar or post???) = 1 point.

Whats the chances a shot is partially blocked/deflected go over from 40+ yards?

The post/bar? Surely that won't come in?

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

I see the new 2 pointers have to be kicked cleanly over the bar.
Any deflections (or hitting bar or post???) = 1 point.

I'm a struggling with the rationale behind this one. It's having extra rules for the sake of having rules.

I think that's what the entire operation is.

[Rossfan]

Australian Rules goals have to be kicked cleanly between the posts.
Any touch off a player or post is only a "behind".

[AustinPowers]

I see the new 2 pointers have to be kicked cleanly over the bar.
Any deflections (or hitting bar or post???) = 1 point.

What if it Clipped the opponents fingertips?  Is that  1 or 2 points?

Jesus , but  they're making a balls of the game