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Scorcher1

Quote from: shamrocker12 on November 07, 2024, 09:06:11 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on November 07, 2024, 08:08:59 AMEnda has been about the panel for a while and I'm sure has learned a lot, but it would big a huge step up to be the man in charge.
Has he ever managed a club team?
There'd be no doubting his commitment or anything like that, and if true he could turn out to be class....but it is also a risk.

As for Meenagh, he was offered the role post RG and declined. He's a teacher and didn't want to leave his job for a manager job, couldn't blame him for that.
Would have been my choice from the start when RG went.

Yeah managed banagher in 2018 and won the championship with them, think mullahoran beat them in ulster. Shortly after that he was appointed in Rory Gallaghers back room team. No doubting his credentials at all. A genius on the pitch and no doubt with the right structure around him the players would respond to him. Backroom team would be key. Pity the Co. Board wouldn't be doing all in their power to get meenagh back and an offer to Conelth gilligan. Surely to god he'd be tempted if the right structure was there.


so are we expecting Enda to be confirmed then or is this just rumours?

shamrocker12

Quote from: Scorcher1 on November 07, 2024, 09:10:37 AM
Quote from: shamrocker12 on November 07, 2024, 09:06:11 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on November 07, 2024, 08:08:59 AMEnda has been about the panel for a while and I'm sure has learned a lot, but it would big a huge step up to be the man in charge.
Has he ever managed a club team?
There'd be no doubting his commitment or anything like that, and if true he could turn out to be class....but it is also a risk.

As for Meenagh, he was offered the role post RG and declined. He's a teacher and didn't want to leave his job for a manager job, couldn't blame him for that.
Would have been my choice from the start when RG went.

Yeah managed banagher in 2018 and won the championship with them, think mullahoran beat them in ulster. Shortly after that he was appointed in Rory Gallaghers back room team. No doubting his credentials at all. A genius on the pitch and no doubt with the right structure around him the players would respond to him. Backroom team would be key. Pity the Co. Board wouldn't be doing all in their power to get meenagh back and an offer to Conelth gilligan. Surely to god he'd be tempted if the right structure was there.


so are we expecting Enda to be confirmed then or is this just rumours?
Quote from: Scorcher1 on November 07, 2024, 09:10:37 AM
Quote from: shamrocker12 on November 07, 2024, 09:06:11 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on November 07, 2024, 08:08:59 AMEnda has been about the panel for a while and I'm sure has learned a lot, but it would big a huge step up to be the man in charge.
Has he ever managed a club team?
There'd be no doubting his commitment or anything like that, and if true he could turn out to be class....but it is also a risk.

As for Meenagh, he was offered the role post RG and declined. He's a teacher and didn't want to leave his job for a manager job, couldn't blame him for that.
Would have been my choice from the start when RG went.

Yeah managed banagher in 2018 and won the championship with them, think mullahoran beat them in ulster. Shortly after that he was appointed in Rory Gallaghers back room team. No doubting his credentials at all. A genius on the pitch and no doubt with the right structure around him the players would respond to him. Backroom team would be key. Pity the Co. Board wouldn't be doing all in their power to get meenagh back and an offer to Conelth gilligan. Surely to god he'd be tempted if the right structure was there.


so are we expecting Enda to be confirmed then or is this just rumours?

I believe it's just a rumour..but who knows at this stage? One of the strangest managerial sagas ever GAA circles. A team who has been knocking on door of potential All ireland finals for 2 to 3 years, division 1 national league champions and here we are on the 6th November managerless and seemingly no interested parties to manage one of the top teams in the country. Duffys circus

Uncle Phil

Quote from: shamrocker12 on November 07, 2024, 09:06:11 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on November 07, 2024, 08:08:59 AMEnda has been about the panel for a while and I'm sure has learned a lot, but it would big a huge step up to be the man in charge.
Has he ever managed a club team?
There'd be no doubting his commitment or anything like that, and if true he could turn out to be class....but it is also a risk.

As for Meenagh, he was offered the role post RG and declined. He's a teacher and didn't want to leave his job for a manager job, couldn't blame him for that.
Would have been my choice from the start when RG went.

Yeah managed banagher in 2018 and won the championship with them, think mullahoran beat them in ulster. Shortly after that he was appointed in Rory Gallaghers back room team. No doubting his credentials at all. A genius on the pitch and no doubt with the right structure around him the players would respond to him. Backroom team would be key. Pity the Co. Board wouldn't be doing all in their power to get meenagh back and an offer to Conelth gilligan. Surely to god he'd be tempted if the right structure was there.

Mouth watering set up with Enda, Meenagh, and Gilligan. That would probably be the best Derry could get currently. All with strong connections to the squad and county also. Best of luck to Big Enda if he does get it. Most suited ex-player IMO and if he has the right men around him he deserves the county's support. I heard a rumour that RG would be a silent partner alongside Big Easy though, which would be controversial. Could be a load of balls.....

statto

Quote from: shamrocker12 on November 07, 2024, 09:51:10 AM
Quote from: Scorcher1 on November 07, 2024, 09:10:37 AM
Quote from: shamrocker12 on November 07, 2024, 09:06:11 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on November 07, 2024, 08:08:59 AMEnda has been about the panel for a while and I'm sure has learned a lot, but it would big a huge step up to be the man in charge.
Has he ever managed a club team?
There'd be no doubting his commitment or anything like that, and if true he could turn out to be class....but it is also a risk.

As for Meenagh, he was offered the role post RG and declined. He's a teacher and didn't want to leave his job for a manager job, couldn't blame him for that.
Would have been my choice from the start when RG went.

Yeah managed banagher in 2018 and won the championship with them, think mullahoran beat them in ulster. Shortly after that he was appointed in Rory Gallaghers back room team. No doubting his credentials at all. A genius on the pitch and no doubt with the right structure around him the players would respond to him. Backroom team would be key. Pity the Co. Board wouldn't be doing all in their power to get meenagh back and an offer to Conelth gilligan. Surely to god he'd be tempted if the right structure was there.


so are we expecting Enda to be confirmed then or is this just rumours?
Quote from: Scorcher1 on November 07, 2024, 09:10:37 AM
Quote from: shamrocker12 on November 07, 2024, 09:06:11 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on November 07, 2024, 08:08:59 AMEnda has been about the panel for a while and I'm sure has learned a lot, but it would big a huge step up to be the man in charge.
Has he ever managed a club team?
There'd be no doubting his commitment or anything like that, and if true he could turn out to be class....but it is also a risk.

As for Meenagh, he was offered the role post RG and declined. He's a teacher and didn't want to leave his job for a manager job, couldn't blame him for that.
Would have been my choice from the start when RG went.

Yeah managed banagher in 2018 and won the championship with them, think mullahoran beat them in ulster. Shortly after that he was appointed in Rory Gallaghers back room team. No doubting his credentials at all. A genius on the pitch and no doubt with the right structure around him the players would respond to him. Backroom team would be key. Pity the Co. Board wouldn't be doing all in their power to get meenagh back and an offer to Conelth gilligan. Surely to god he'd be tempted if the right structure was there.


so are we expecting Enda to be confirmed then or is this just rumours?

I believe it's just a rumour..but who knows at this stage? One of the strangest managerial sagas ever GAA circles. A team who has been knocking on door of potential All ireland finals for 2 to 3 years, division 1 national league champions and here we are on the 6th November managerless and seemingly no interested parties to manage one of the top teams in the country. Duffys circus
Is that due to the culture associated with Derry?  When you look at the success at schools and underage they have massively underachieved since they won the AI in 93. 

Gallagher was the first manager since Eamon Coleman(RIP) who appeared to manage upwards as in had the players and county board eating out of his hand.  Previous issues from players from different clubs not pulling together seemed to be parked up. 

Without knowing the ins and outs of what went on on the team trip away what they offered up after that was way off what they hand produced in the last couple of years.  I genuinely thought they were the team to beat last year and that league final would have gave them that extra belief. 

If you took the Derry team on paper and with the additional underage success in recent years it does seem a bit baffling why no one wants to touch the job as a 3/4 year project. 

Goals_Will_Come

Quote from: Uncle Phil on November 07, 2024, 09:57:21 AM
Quote from: shamrocker12 on November 07, 2024, 09:06:11 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on November 07, 2024, 08:08:59 AMEnda has been about the panel for a while and I'm sure has learned a lot, but it would big a huge step up to be the man in charge.
Has he ever managed a club team?
There'd be no doubting his commitment or anything like that, and if true he could turn out to be class....but it is also a risk.

As for Meenagh, he was offered the role post RG and declined. He's a teacher and didn't want to leave his job for a manager job, couldn't blame him for that.
Would have been my choice from the start when RG went.

Yeah managed banagher in 2018 and won the championship with them, think mullahoran beat them in ulster. Shortly after that he was appointed in Rory Gallaghers back room team. No doubting his credentials at all. A genius on the pitch and no doubt with the right structure around him the players would respond to him. Backroom team would be key. Pity the Co. Board wouldn't be doing all in their power to get meenagh back and an offer to Conelth gilligan. Surely to god he'd be tempted if the right structure was there.

Mouth watering set up with Enda, Meenagh, and Gilligan. That would probably be the best Derry could get currently. All with strong connections to the squad and county also. Best of luck to Big Enda if he does get it. Most suited ex-player IMO and if he has the right men around him he deserves the county's support. I heard a rumour that RG would be a silent partner alongside Big Easy though, which would be controversial. Could be a load of balls.....
This is the story on the street.
Meenagh for Glen. Gilligan committed to Armagh.

CookieMonster

Quote from: statto on November 07, 2024, 11:10:08 AM
Quote from: shamrocker12 on November 07, 2024, 09:51:10 AM
Quote from: Scorcher1 on November 07, 2024, 09:10:37 AM
Quote from: shamrocker12 on November 07, 2024, 09:06:11 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on November 07, 2024, 08:08:59 AMEnda has been about the panel for a while and I'm sure has learned a lot, but it would big a huge step up to be the man in charge.
Has he ever managed a club team?
There'd be no doubting his commitment or anything like that, and if true he could turn out to be class....but it is also a risk.

As for Meenagh, he was offered the role post RG and declined. He's a teacher and didn't want to leave his job for a manager job, couldn't blame him for that.
Would have been my choice from the start when RG went.

Yeah managed banagher in 2018 and won the championship with them, think mullahoran beat them in ulster. Shortly after that he was appointed in Rory Gallaghers back room team. No doubting his credentials at all. A genius on the pitch and no doubt with the right structure around him the players would respond to him. Backroom team would be key. Pity the Co. Board wouldn't be doing all in their power to get meenagh back and an offer to Conelth gilligan. Surely to god he'd be tempted if the right structure was there.


so are we expecting Enda to be confirmed then or is this just rumours?
Quote from: Scorcher1 on November 07, 2024, 09:10:37 AM
Quote from: shamrocker12 on November 07, 2024, 09:06:11 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on November 07, 2024, 08:08:59 AMEnda has been about the panel for a while and I'm sure has learned a lot, but it would big a huge step up to be the man in charge.
Has he ever managed a club team?
There'd be no doubting his commitment or anything like that, and if true he could turn out to be class....but it is also a risk.

As for Meenagh, he was offered the role post RG and declined. He's a teacher and didn't want to leave his job for a manager job, couldn't blame him for that.
Would have been my choice from the start when RG went.

Yeah managed banagher in 2018 and won the championship with them, think mullahoran beat them in ulster. Shortly after that he was appointed in Rory Gallaghers back room team. No doubting his credentials at all. A genius on the pitch and no doubt with the right structure around him the players would respond to him. Backroom team would be key. Pity the Co. Board wouldn't be doing all in their power to get meenagh back and an offer to Conelth gilligan. Surely to god he'd be tempted if the right structure was there.


so are we expecting Enda to be confirmed then or is this just rumours?

I believe it's just a rumour..but who knows at this stage? One of the strangest managerial sagas ever GAA circles. A team who has been knocking on door of potential All ireland finals for 2 to 3 years, division 1 national league champions and here we are on the 6th November managerless and seemingly no interested parties to manage one of the top teams in the country. Duffys circus
Is that due to the culture associated with Derry?  When you look at the success at schools and underage they have massively underachieved since they won the AI in 93. 

Gallagher was the first manager since Eamon Coleman(RIP) who appeared to manage upwards as in had the players and county board eating out of his hand.  Previous issues from players from different clubs not pulling together seemed to be parked up. 

Without knowing the ins and outs of what went on on the team trip away what they offered up after that was way off what they hand produced in the last couple of years.  I genuinely thought they were the team to beat last year and that league final would have gave them that extra belief. 

If you took the Derry team on paper and with the additional underage success in recent years it does seem a bit baffling why no one wants to touch the job as a 3/4 year project. 

Agreed. It should be an attractive job, I think the "poisoned chalice" notion comes from certain players having an affiliation with RG. Brendan Rogers spoke about him in fairly glowing terms in that recent podcast he done. I guess other managers feel like they'd struggle to build up a similar rapport when so many of the players still want Gallagher.

Rawhide

I am absolutely confident that the split season introduced during Covid and then subsequently bedded into the the Gaa season is the main reason why the problems of old that many previous managers faced before do not now exist. Then the CB decoupled the club league and championship at club level and that further eliminated the previous issues of club & county. Gallagher was the first manager in Derry to benefit from that major structural shift that helped Derry more than most.
cccc is a true supporter lol

statto

Quote from: CookieMonster on November 07, 2024, 11:27:45 AM
Quote from: statto on November 07, 2024, 11:10:08 AM
Quote from: shamrocker12 on November 07, 2024, 09:51:10 AM
Quote from: Scorcher1 on November 07, 2024, 09:10:37 AM
Quote from: shamrocker12 on November 07, 2024, 09:06:11 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on November 07, 2024, 08:08:59 AMEnda has been about the panel for a while and I'm sure has learned a lot, but it would big a huge step up to be the man in charge.
Has he ever managed a club team?
There'd be no doubting his commitment or anything like that, and if true he could turn out to be class....but it is also a risk.

As for Meenagh, he was offered the role post RG and declined. He's a teacher and didn't want to leave his job for a manager job, couldn't blame him for that.
Would have been my choice from the start when RG went.

Yeah managed banagher in 2018 and won the championship with them, think mullahoran beat them in ulster. Shortly after that he was appointed in Rory Gallaghers back room team. No doubting his credentials at all. A genius on the pitch and no doubt with the right structure around him the players would respond to him. Backroom team would be key. Pity the Co. Board wouldn't be doing all in their power to get meenagh back and an offer to Conelth gilligan. Surely to god he'd be tempted if the right structure was there.


so are we expecting Enda to be confirmed then or is this just rumours?
Quote from: Scorcher1 on November 07, 2024, 09:10:37 AM
Quote from: shamrocker12 on November 07, 2024, 09:06:11 AM
Quote from: tbrick18 on November 07, 2024, 08:08:59 AMEnda has been about the panel for a while and I'm sure has learned a lot, but it would big a huge step up to be the man in charge.
Has he ever managed a club team?
There'd be no doubting his commitment or anything like that, and if true he could turn out to be class....but it is also a risk.

As for Meenagh, he was offered the role post RG and declined. He's a teacher and didn't want to leave his job for a manager job, couldn't blame him for that.
Would have been my choice from the start when RG went.

Yeah managed banagher in 2018 and won the championship with them, think mullahoran beat them in ulster. Shortly after that he was appointed in Rory Gallaghers back room team. No doubting his credentials at all. A genius on the pitch and no doubt with the right structure around him the players would respond to him. Backroom team would be key. Pity the Co. Board wouldn't be doing all in their power to get meenagh back and an offer to Conelth gilligan. Surely to god he'd be tempted if the right structure was there.


so are we expecting Enda to be confirmed then or is this just rumours?

I believe it's just a rumour..but who knows at this stage? One of the strangest managerial sagas ever GAA circles. A team who has been knocking on door of potential All ireland finals for 2 to 3 years, division 1 national league champions and here we are on the 6th November managerless and seemingly no interested parties to manage one of the top teams in the country. Duffys circus
Is that due to the culture associated with Derry?  When you look at the success at schools and underage they have massively underachieved since they won the AI in 93. 

Gallagher was the first manager since Eamon Coleman(RIP) who appeared to manage upwards as in had the players and county board eating out of his hand.  Previous issues from players from different clubs not pulling together seemed to be parked up. 

Without knowing the ins and outs of what went on on the team trip away what they offered up after that was way off what they hand produced in the last couple of years.  I genuinely thought they were the team to beat last year and that league final would have gave them that extra belief. 

If you took the Derry team on paper and with the additional underage success in recent years it does seem a bit baffling why no one wants to touch the job as a 3/4 year project. 

Agreed. It should be an attractive job, I think the "poisoned chalice" notion comes from certain players having an affiliation with RG. Brendan Rogers spoke about him in fairly glowing terms in that recent podcast he done. I guess other managers feel like they'd struggle to build up a similar rapport when so many of the players still want Gallagher.
I suppose Rogers was asked an honest question gave an honest answer. Plus I would imagine given where we are with appointment of next Manager didn't want to create any controversy if he did have an opinion on what has allegedly went on with RG behind closed doors. 

I think the level of Manager who should be in for the Derry job should back themselves to be able to builds rapport with players.  These players had good managers before and will have good managers again. 

shawshank

Quote from: Rawhide on November 07, 2024, 11:28:51 AMI am absolutely confident that the split season introduced during Covid and then subsequently bedded into the the Gaa season is the main reason why the problems of old that many previous managers faced before do not now exist. Then the CB decoupled the club league and championship at club level and that further eliminated the previous issues of club & county. Gallagher was the first manager in Derry to benefit from that major structural shift that helped Derry more than most.

Thats one of the best insightful posts on here in long time. As an example, 2011 Derry were in the Ulster final, Glenullin were playing us in a league game. Glenullin hadn't bt us in yrs and insisted on their county men playing, forcing Kielt to play when he  didn't want to. Both he and Gerard O Kane got dead legs in that game. Kielt recovered in time for the Ulster final, Gerard O Kane didn't. O'Kanes only opportunity to play in an Ulster final gone due to the short sightedness of the club mentality that had held us back at county level for years.

shamrocker12

Derry GAA may be about to do a U-turn and make a shock move to appoint Rory Gallagher as part of their senior football management. ✅

It is also believed Oak Leaf legend Enda Muldoon - who worked with Gallagher before - could return and even head up the management team.

Taken from sports joe.ie

shamrocker12

Understand that plans for Derry's executive committee to vote tonight on a management team containing Rory Gallagher have been shelved again, and that the proposal will not be put forward

Taken from Cahair OKane twitter. Absolute shambles

toby47

This couldn't get any worse. An absolute shambles from top to bottom.

Can't see why any manager in Ireland would touch the job now.

JE23

Quote from: toby47 on November 07, 2024, 12:42:00 PMThis couldn't get any worse. An absolute shambles from top to bottom.

Can't see why any manager in Ireland would touch the job now.

Really shocking stuff - never seen such incompetence.

shamrocker12

So basically what I have took from the posts from Sports joe.ie and Cahaoirs are basically the 2 player led leadership group with some county board officials have put together a management team headed by Enda muldoon, involving Rory Gallagher possibly as assistant or coach and were getting ready to propose this tonight. Someone has leaked this to SportsJoe.ie for them to post it causing panic with some others within the Co. Board who have reached out to Cahaoir Okane to release a tweet that the proposal won't even be considered. Maybe I'm reading the room wrong here or does anyone else agree?? I'm starting to feel this is becoming very very toxic not only at Co.board level but also within the player leadership group. To me this appears to be a clear fallout between the chairman and other Co. Board delegates. It's beyond farcical at this stage now. If there is a meeting tonight between the Derry executive committee I'd love to know what exactly they are talking about or what the hell is going on.

Rawhide

#7994
Quote from: Rawhide on November 05, 2024, 12:14:25 PMThis is simply a complete failure of leadership on the behalf of the County Chairman John Keenan and the Operations Manager Stephen Barker. If either had an ounce of integrity they both should resign at the AGM.

That may sound harsh, however in their roles they have mismanaged and overseen a mess.

As I said the other day.

This is now a resigning matter!!
cccc is a true supporter lol