Down Club Hurling & Football

[DuffGael]

There's a fascinating discussion on the Ulster Club IFC and JFC 2024 regarding Armagh's approach to second teams playing in the senior league. In light of the state of reserve football in the county, Is it worthwhile to revisit this?

Big difference is that in Armagh their first team & reserves are completely different groups of players. Both play at same time so there is no players overlapping & appearing on both panels.
 
There isn't the scenario where lads can play well in reserves & get promoted to seniors or give fringe players a run for reserves.

There aren't many clubs in Down that could field 40+ adult players to fill two panels.

I'd say 2 clubs could do it, Burren and Kilcoo

[Hard2Listen2]

There's a fascinating discussion on the Ulster Club IFC and JFC 2024 regarding Armagh's approach to second teams playing in the senior league. In light of the state of reserve football in the county, Is it worthwhile to revisit this?

Big difference is that in Armagh their first team & reserves are completely different groups of players. Both play at same time so there is no players overlapping & appearing on both panels.
 
There isn't the scenario where lads can play well in reserves & get promoted to seniors or give fringe players a run for reserves.

There aren't many clubs in Down that could field 40+ adult players to fill two panels.

I'd say 2 clubs could do it, Burren and Kilcoo

Possibly Carryduff but I can't see any others having the numbers.

[DuffGael]

There's a fascinating discussion on the Ulster Club IFC and JFC 2024 regarding Armagh's approach to second teams playing in the senior league. In light of the state of reserve football in the county, Is it worthwhile to revisit this?

Big difference is that in Armagh their first team & reserves are completely different groups of players. Both play at same time so there is no players overlapping & appearing on both panels.
 
There isn't the scenario where lads can play well in reserves & get promoted to seniors or give fringe players a run for reserves.

There aren't many clubs in Down that could field 40+ adult players to fill two panels.

I'd say 2 clubs could do it, Burren and Kilcoo

Possibly Carryduff but I can't see any others having the numbers.

Carryduff don't have the numbers unfortunately

[County Star]

Went to the JFC semi final in Dundrum last night . Cracking game went right to the wire. Both teams left it all on the pitch.

Fin to play the winners of Dromara v Glasdrumman.in Newcastle today, Dromara have been impressive this year.

Then it's on to the bridge at 4 for Rostrevor and Clanna Banna . The red n black Derby who changes ? Or do both ?

Finally last leg of journey to Pairc esler for kilcoo v Glenn

Love the business end of the championship season

Dromara
Clann na Banna
Kilcoo

To win

[No1]

There's a fascinating discussion on the Ulster Club IFC and JFC 2024 regarding Armagh's approach to second teams playing in the senior league. In light of the state of reserve football in the county, Is it worthwhile to revisit this?

It's not fascinating at all. Reserve football is for young fellas coming through, fellas on the fringe of seniors trying to get there and a few veterans playing out their days. If clubs don't have the numbers then they can't field. Simple. Reserve teams are there to support and help the senior team and that's all.

[CheeseCake]

There's a fascinating discussion on the Ulster Club IFC and JFC 2024 regarding Armagh's approach to second teams playing in the senior league. In light of the state of reserve football in the county, Is it worthwhile to revisit this?

Big difference is that in Armagh their first team & reserves are completely different groups of players. Both play at same time so there is no players overlapping & appearing on both panels.
 
There isn't the scenario where lads can play well in reserves & get promoted to seniors or give fringe players a run for reserves.

There aren't many clubs in Down that could field 40+ adult players to fill two panels.

I'd say 2 clubs could do it, Burren and Kilcoo

Possibly Carryduff but I can't see any others having the numbers.

Carryduff don't have the numbers unfortunately

The largest club in Down plays in division 4

[DuffGael]

There's a fascinating discussion on the Ulster Club IFC and JFC 2024 regarding Armagh's approach to second teams playing in the senior league. In light of the state of reserve football in the county, Is it worthwhile to revisit this?

Big difference is that in Armagh their first team & reserves are completely different groups of players. Both play at same time so there is no players overlapping & appearing on both panels.
 
There isn't the scenario where lads can play well in reserves & get promoted to seniors or give fringe players a run for reserves.

There aren't many clubs in Down that could field 40+ adult players to fill two panels.

I'd say 2 clubs could do it, Burren and Kilcoo

Possibly Carryduff but I can't see any others having the numbers.

Carryduff don't have the numbers unfortunately

The largest club in Down plays in division 4

It doesn't, Carryduff and Bredagh have the biggest membership, East Belfast has the largest adult player membership but hardly any juvenile compared to Thier neighbours

[supersub]

Strange times and venues for some of this weekends fixtures. Kilcoo v Glenn takes place on Saturday evening at 6.30pm whilst an intermediate semi final is on in Mayobridge at 4pm. Surely a double header in Newry would be a better idea and make more sense for spectators.
Sunday is even more laughable - the minor championship final is on at 1.30pm in Newry and the same ground hosts a senior semi final at 6pm - why not play the minor game at 4pm and allow neutral fans to attend both?

All about maximising the £

When county board ran double headers everywhere and anywhere, the accusation then was that it was all about maximising the dough.

Surely both ends of this stick can't produce them the same result?

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Double headers are shite btw.

Indeed. A clamour for double headers rears its head every so often alright. Usually from someone with a vested interest in one of said games. Therein lies the problem. There isn't really that much of a demand for double headers. Very very few spectators will be present for all of both games, especially at club level. A lot will go for the first game and drift away midway through second, some more will dander in second half of first game for a 'decent seat' and then watch the second. Unless the same club or clubs are playing, you'll get very few but the diehards completing viewing of both.

[marty34]

Double headers are ok.

Good money for the county board.

People who are there for the first game , stay to half-tim in the second game, then start to drift away.

Probably benefits county board in regards to streaming the games, especially if one central venue involved.

[thewobbler]

Double headers were always shite.

They're worse now because the chances of you getting an entertaining watch in the neutral game is minimal to none. 2 hours of modern football is a form of self flagellation.

But pragmatic though, for as long as there's a chance of extra time and penalties, double headers are just impractical.

[Nanderson]

Are umpires allowed to call for a square ball in a championship game? 

[Too many steps]

Are umpires allowed to call for a square ball in a championship game? 

I assume this is on the back of the Burren goal tonight?

Looked a dead cert square ball, but apparently the umpires said it took a deflection so they were the ones that advised the ref that the goal should stand.

[upandwin]

Never really worried about that game tonight in truth. This Burren team have been in second gear all year and still no one comes close to beating them apart from Magpies. Kilcoo's time is up, they're not the force they were 2 or 3 years ago. I think this will be the year we see the torch being passed to Burren, who will dominate Down and Ulster football for the next 10yrs+. The talent coming through is scary, another underage championship won on Friday and beat the much fancied Carryduff while in cruise control. Kilcoo might have more titles than Burren for now but Burren are the biggest club in Down. Watch this space, Burren beat Kilcoo by half a dozen in two weeks time. It will finish most of the old guard that have dominated the last decade and they'll go back under their rock for another 50yrs.

[Mourne Red]

Never really worried about that game tonight in truth. This Burren team have been in second gear all year and still no one comes close to beating them apart from Magpies. Kilcoo's time is up, they're not the force they were 2 or 3 years ago. I think this will be the year we see the torch being passed to Burren, who will dominate Down and Ulster football for the next 10yrs+. The talent coming through is scary, another underage championship won on Friday and beat the much fancied Carryduff while in cruise control. Kilcoo might have more titles than Burren for now but Burren are the biggest club in Down. Watch this space, Burren beat Kilcoo by half a dozen in two weeks time. It will finish most of the old guard that have dominated the last decade and they'll go back under their rock for another 50yrs.

I've took a screenshot off this and commenting so this isn't deleted in a fortnights time

[upandwin]

I never delete , I'll swallow my pill if needs be. Game of opinion fellas, just giving my two cents. But your reply has been screenshot as well FYI. 0nly drying out from that match tonight but the next two weeks will be fun. Lots to be excited about and big Paddy Burns could have two All Irelands in the space of 12 months. Heard it here first, don't say you weren't told