Joe Brolly

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ck

Quote from: Truthsayer on September 19, 2024, 01:33:18 PM
Quote from: ck on September 19, 2024, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 19, 2024, 11:09:52 AMDid you make up or embellish half of that? He is on record as saying only club members should manage a club, same as being a player. To transfer to a club have to live or work in the area (though I sure is ones get around that!). As he lives in Mayo...
Do you know that Dungiven wouldn't have him or is that just an opinion?
Which positions did he apply for and 'get laughed out of it'?
He was turned down at St Brigids, don't know if he was laughed out of it... was very successful as a minor manager there. Which others? Maybe he was.. just wondering.
Seems you are accusing him of the very thing you are doing.... or is all your comments factual?
Where does he get time for the podcasts!! What? !

I think it's a fair point that you raise re facts so I'll stick to them rather than muddy with my opinion. I stand to be corrected here but he won nothing as a club minor manager, with reportedly the best team in the county. The team was taken over by someone else and they won the u20 c/ship. Also I am familiar with Dungiven Gaels and they'd be sharp in their response when Brolly is mentioned!

So all any "outside" manager has to do is to be a club member and all is forgiven by Brolly? That's just ridiculous, surely anyone can become a club member? Unless you put a time frame on it, say has to be a member for 3 years? What about the ex player whos membership has lapsed, can he not manage the team? It's just nonsense.


Did he not manage St Brigids to win the Antrim minor championship? I think he did... and got to U16 Paul McGirr Cup final (Ulster).
Club player is supposed to live or work in the area and he suggested the manager be the same, so there no need to wait three years. I took it to mean manage a team in Mayo as he now lives there. I doubt he needs money through that source of income.
Dungiven haven't won the county championship since he was playing, 1997 so players not in much of a position to slag him off. 

No he won nothing with minors (I checked it out) and took them at u20 also and went out in 1st round. New man took on u20s year after and they won the c/ship, so I'm not sure why he thinks he should be considered for a senior job. It smacks of entitlement and arrogance.
You mentioned Brollys assertion that "outside" managers should be club members which you clarified as living and working in the area. Brolly didnt even live in county Antrim, he lived in Co.Down next door to Bredagh GAC. By his own logic he rules himself out again of any dealings with St.Brigids. His own son plays for Bredagh.
Now he's talking about managing a club in Mayo.

It's just the endless hypocracy and BS that he spouts which seems to fool a lot of people.

Truthsayer

Quote from: ck on September 20, 2024, 11:06:06 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 19, 2024, 01:33:18 PM
Quote from: ck on September 19, 2024, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 19, 2024, 11:09:52 AMDid you make up or embellish half of that? He is on record as saying only club members should manage a club, same as being a player. To transfer to a club have to live or work in the area (though I sure is ones get around that!). As he lives in Mayo...
Do you know that Dungiven wouldn't have him or is that just an opinion?
Which positions did he apply for and 'get laughed out of it'?
He was turned down at St Brigids, don't know if he was laughed out of it... was very successful as a minor manager there. Which others? Maybe he was.. just wondering.
Seems you are accusing him of the very thing you are doing.... or is all your comments factual?
Where does he get time for the podcasts!! What? !

I think it's a fair point that you raise re facts so I'll stick to them rather than muddy with my opinion. I stand to be corrected here but he won nothing as a club minor manager, with reportedly the best team in the county. The team was taken over by someone else and they won the u20 c/ship. Also I am familiar with Dungiven Gaels and they'd be sharp in their response when Brolly is mentioned!

So all any "outside" manager has to do is to be a club member and all is forgiven by Brolly? That's just ridiculous, surely anyone can become a club member? Unless you put a time frame on it, say has to be a member for 3 years? What about the ex player whos membership has lapsed, can he not manage the team? It's just nonsense.


Did he not manage St Brigids to win the Antrim minor championship? I think he did... and got to U16 Paul McGirr Cup final (Ulster).
Club player is supposed to live or work in the area and he suggested the manager be the same, so there no need to wait three years. I took it to mean manage a team in Mayo as he now lives there. I doubt he needs money through that source of income.
Dungiven haven't won the county championship since he was playing, 1997 so players not in much of a position to slag him off. 

No he won nothing with minors (I checked it out) and took them at u20 also and went out in 1st round.
New man took on u20s year after and they won the c/ship, so I'm not sure why he thinks he should be considered for a senior job. It smacks of entitlement and arrogance.
You mentioned Brollys assertion that "outside" managers should be club members which you clarified as living and working in the area. Brolly didnt even live in county Antrim, he lived in Co.Down next door to Bredagh GAC. By his own logic he rules himself out again of any dealings with St.Brigids. His own son plays for Bredagh.
Now he's talking about managing a club in Mayo.

It's just the endless hypocracy and BS that he spouts which seems to fool a lot of people.

Who did you check it out with? A mirror? That's full of either deliberate or ignorant inaccuracies and I can't be bothered going through them all.
He won minor and U16 county titles with St Brigids, lived in Co Antrim and had son with St Brigids  :D

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=999907340138972&id=100063927880237

clonian

Quote from: Truthsayer on September 20, 2024, 11:53:38 AM
Quote from: ck on September 20, 2024, 11:06:06 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 19, 2024, 01:33:18 PM
Quote from: ck on September 19, 2024, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 19, 2024, 11:09:52 AMDid you make up or embellish half of that? He is on record as saying only club members should manage a club, same as being a player. To transfer to a club have to live or work in the area (though I sure is ones get around that!). As he lives in Mayo...
Do you know that Dungiven wouldn't have him or is that just an opinion?
Which positions did he apply for and 'get laughed out of it'?
He was turned down at St Brigids, don't know if he was laughed out of it... was very successful as a minor manager there. Which others? Maybe he was.. just wondering.
Seems you are accusing him of the very thing you are doing.... or is all your comments factual?
Where does he get time for the podcasts!! What? !

I think it's a fair point that you raise re facts so I'll stick to them rather than muddy with my opinion. I stand to be corrected here but he won nothing as a club minor manager, with reportedly the best team in the county. The team was taken over by someone else and they won the u20 c/ship. Also I am familiar with Dungiven Gaels and they'd be sharp in their response when Brolly is mentioned!

So all any "outside" manager has to do is to be a club member and all is forgiven by Brolly? That's just ridiculous, surely anyone can become a club member? Unless you put a time frame on it, say has to be a member for 3 years? What about the ex player whos membership has lapsed, can he not manage the team? It's just nonsense.


Did he not manage St Brigids to win the Antrim minor championship? I think he did... and got to U16 Paul McGirr Cup final (Ulster).
Club player is supposed to live or work in the area and he suggested the manager be the same, so there no need to wait three years. I took it to mean manage a team in Mayo as he now lives there. I doubt he needs money through that source of income.
Dungiven haven't won the county championship since he was playing, 1997 so players not in much of a position to slag him off. 

No he won nothing with minors (I checked it out) and took them at u20 also and went out in 1st round.
New man took on u20s year after and they won the c/ship, so I'm not sure why he thinks he should be considered for a senior job. It smacks of entitlement and arrogance.
You mentioned Brollys assertion that "outside" managers should be club members which you clarified as living and working in the area. Brolly didnt even live in county Antrim, he lived in Co.Down next door to Bredagh GAC. By his own logic he rules himself out again of any dealings with St.Brigids. His own son plays for Bredagh.
Now he's talking about managing a club in Mayo.

It's just the endless hypocracy and BS that he spouts which seems to fool a lot of people.

Who did you check it out with? A mirror? That's full of either deliberate or ignorant inaccuracies and I can't be bothered going through them all.
He won minor and U16 county titles with St Brigids, lived in Co Antrim and had son with St Brigids  :D

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=999907340138972&id=100063927880237

One of his sons hurls for Bredagh - hence one of the stories about Bredagh & St Patricks (Ballela & Ballyvarley) a couple of weeks ago in the podcast. He said minor semi final but it was u16.

Truthsayer

Quote from: clonian on September 20, 2024, 12:10:58 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 20, 2024, 11:53:38 AM
Quote from: ck on September 20, 2024, 11:06:06 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 19, 2024, 01:33:18 PM
Quote from: ck on September 19, 2024, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 19, 2024, 11:09:52 AMDid you make up or embellish half of that? He is on record as saying only club members should manage a club, same as being a player. To transfer to a club have to live or work in the area (though I sure is ones get around that!). As he lives in Mayo...
Do you know that Dungiven wouldn't have him or is that just an opinion?
Which positions did he apply for and 'get laughed out of it'?
He was turned down at St Brigids, don't know if he was laughed out of it... was very successful as a minor manager there. Which others? Maybe he was.. just wondering.
Seems you are accusing him of the very thing you are doing.... or is all your comments factual?
Where does he get time for the podcasts!! What? !

I think it's a fair point that you raise re facts so I'll stick to them rather than muddy with my opinion. I stand to be corrected here but he won nothing as a club minor manager, with reportedly the best team in the county. The team was taken over by someone else and they won the u20 c/ship. Also I am familiar with Dungiven Gaels and they'd be sharp in their response when Brolly is mentioned!

So all any "outside" manager has to do is to be a club member and all is forgiven by Brolly? That's just ridiculous, surely anyone can become a club member? Unless you put a time frame on it, say has to be a member for 3 years? What about the ex player whos membership has lapsed, can he not manage the team? It's just nonsense.


Did he not manage St Brigids to win the Antrim minor championship? I think he did... and got to U16 Paul McGirr Cup final (Ulster).
Club player is supposed to live or work in the area and he suggested the manager be the same, so there no need to wait three years. I took it to mean manage a team in Mayo as he now lives there. I doubt he needs money through that source of income.
Dungiven haven't won the county championship since he was playing, 1997 so players not in much of a position to slag him off. 

No he won nothing with minors (I checked it out) and took them at u20 also and went out in 1st round.
New man took on u20s year after and they won the c/ship, so I'm not sure why he thinks he should be considered for a senior job. It smacks of entitlement and arrogance.
You mentioned Brollys assertion that "outside" managers should be club members which you clarified as living and working in the area. Brolly didnt even live in county Antrim, he lived in Co.Down next door to Bredagh GAC. By his own logic he rules himself out again of any dealings with St.Brigids. His own son plays for Bredagh.
Now he's talking about managing a club in Mayo.

It's just the endless hypocracy and BS that he spouts which seems to fool a lot of people.

Who did you check it out with? A mirror? That's full of either deliberate or ignorant inaccuracies and I can't be bothered going through them all.
He won minor and U16 county titles with St Brigids, lived in Co Antrim and had son with St Brigids  :D

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=999907340138972&id=100063927880237

One of his sons hurls for Bredagh - hence one of the stories about Bredagh & St Patricks (Ballela & Ballyvarley) a couple of weeks ago in the podcast. He said minor semi final but it was u16.
He did a lot of good work coaching underage at St Brigids. Whether he'd hack it as senior club coach remains to be seen. When you look at some of the boys going around lining their pockets! We're not talking county team! With that underage experience and his own football career club and county is a bit much to write him off as a club manager before he even does it!

ck

Quote from: Truthsayer on September 20, 2024, 11:53:38 AM
Quote from: ck on September 20, 2024, 11:06:06 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 19, 2024, 01:33:18 PM
Quote from: ck on September 19, 2024, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 19, 2024, 11:09:52 AMDid you make up or embellish half of that? He is on record as saying only club members should manage a club, same as being a player. To transfer to a club have to live or work in the area (though I sure is ones get around that!). As he lives in Mayo...
Do you know that Dungiven wouldn't have him or is that just an opinion?
Which positions did he apply for and 'get laughed out of it'?
He was turned down at St Brigids, don't know if he was laughed out of it... was very successful as a minor manager there. Which others? Maybe he was.. just wondering.
Seems you are accusing him of the very thing you are doing.... or is all your comments factual?
Where does he get time for the podcasts!! What? !

I think it's a fair point that you raise re facts so I'll stick to them rather than muddy with my opinion. I stand to be corrected here but he won nothing as a club minor manager, with reportedly the best team in the county. The team was taken over by someone else and they won the u20 c/ship. Also I am familiar with Dungiven Gaels and they'd be sharp in their response when Brolly is mentioned!

So all any "outside" manager has to do is to be a club member and all is forgiven by Brolly? That's just ridiculous, surely anyone can become a club member? Unless you put a time frame on it, say has to be a member for 3 years? What about the ex player whos membership has lapsed, can he not manage the team? It's just nonsense.


Did he not manage St Brigids to win the Antrim minor championship? I think he did... and got to U16 Paul McGirr Cup final (Ulster).
Club player is supposed to live or work in the area and he suggested the manager be the same, so there no need to wait three years. I took it to mean manage a team in Mayo as he now lives there. I doubt he needs money through that source of income.
Dungiven haven't won the county championship since he was playing, 1997 so players not in much of a position to slag him off. 

No he won nothing with minors (I checked it out) and took them at u20 also and went out in 1st round.
New man took on u20s year after and they won the c/ship, so I'm not sure why he thinks he should be considered for a senior job. It smacks of entitlement and arrogance.
You mentioned Brollys assertion that "outside" managers should be club members which you clarified as living and working in the area. Brolly didnt even live in county Antrim, he lived in Co.Down next door to Bredagh GAC. By his own logic he rules himself out again of any dealings with St.Brigids. His own son plays for Bredagh.
Now he's talking about managing a club in Mayo.

It's just the endless hypocracy and BS that he spouts which seems to fool a lot of people.

Who did you check it out with? A mirror? That's full of either deliberate or ignorant inaccuracies and I can't be bothered going through them all.
He won minor and U16 county titles with St Brigids, lived in Co Antrim and had son with St Brigids  :D

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=999907340138972&id=100063927880237

Go on, point out the inaccuracies.
He won nothing at minor or u20 level. Fact.
While playing/coaching at St.Brigids he lived on Ravinhill Rd beside Bredagh Co.Down. Fact.
His youngest son plays for Bredagh. Fact.

Truthsayer

Quote from: ck on September 20, 2024, 04:41:32 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 20, 2024, 11:53:38 AM
Quote from: ck on September 20, 2024, 11:06:06 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 19, 2024, 01:33:18 PM
Quote from: ck on September 19, 2024, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 19, 2024, 11:09:52 AMDid you make up or embellish half of that? He is on record as saying only club members should manage a club, same as being a player. To transfer to a club have to live or work in the area (though I sure is ones get around that!). As he lives in Mayo...
Do you know that Dungiven wouldn't have him or is that just an opinion?
Which positions did he apply for and 'get laughed out of it'?
He was turned down at St Brigids, don't know if he was laughed out of it... was very successful as a minor manager there. Which others? Maybe he was.. just wondering.
Seems you are accusing him of the very thing you are doing.... or is all your comments factual?
Where does he get time for the podcasts!! What? !

I think it's a fair point that you raise re facts so I'll stick to them rather than muddy with my opinion. I stand to be corrected here but he won nothing as a club minor manager, with reportedly the best team in the county. The team was taken over by someone else and they won the u20 c/ship. Also I am familiar with Dungiven Gaels and they'd be sharp in their response when Brolly is mentioned!

So all any "outside" manager has to do is to be a club member and all is forgiven by Brolly? That's just ridiculous, surely anyone can become a club member? Unless you put a time frame on it, say has to be a member for 3 years? What about the ex player whos membership has lapsed, can he not manage the team? It's just nonsense.


Did he not manage St Brigids to win the Antrim minor championship? I think he did... and got to U16 Paul McGirr Cup final (Ulster).
Club player is supposed to live or work in the area and he suggested the manager be the same, so there no need to wait three years. I took it to mean manage a team in Mayo as he now lives there. I doubt he needs money through that source of income.
Dungiven haven't won the county championship since he was playing, 1997 so players not in much of a position to slag him off. 

No he won nothing with minors (I checked it out) and took them at u20 also and went out in 1st round.
New man took on u20s year after and they won the c/ship, so I'm not sure why he thinks he should be considered for a senior job. It smacks of entitlement and arrogance.
You mentioned Brollys assertion that "outside" managers should be club members which you clarified as living and working in the area. Brolly didnt even live in county Antrim, he lived in Co.Down next door to Bredagh GAC. By his own logic he rules himself out again of any dealings with St.Brigids. His own son plays for Bredagh.
Now he's talking about managing a club in Mayo.

It's just the endless hypocracy and BS that he spouts which seems to fool a lot of people.

Who did you check it out with? A mirror? That's full of either deliberate or ignorant inaccuracies and I can't be bothered going through them all.
He won minor and U16 county titles with St Brigids, lived in Co Antrim and had son with St Brigids  :D

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=999907340138972&id=100063927880237

Go on, point out the inaccuracies.
He won nothing at minor or u20 level. Fact.
While playing/coaching at St.Brigids he lived on Ravinhill Rd beside Bredagh Co.Down. Fact.
His youngest son plays for Bredagh. Fact.
:D writing Fact after a sentence doesn't make it a fact!
He lived in Co Antrim True
He has two sons one played for the senior footballers the other plays with the senior hurlers at the minute True
He won at U16 and minor True

imtommygunn

He lived in down opposite the Ian paisley church...

He was playing for st Brigids when I was playing so he maybe lived in Antrim at one point but I suspect that was a long time ago.

gallsman

#6727
As far as I can remember, he was involved with Brigid's from the get go when they landed in '98 through his own contacts. "He should be a Bredagh man" based on where he was living at the time is a bit of a reach.

As for the son hurling for Bredagh, St. Brigid's didn't have a senior hurling team until 2 or 3 years ago.

There are plenty of things to find issue with Brolly but not being a Bredagh man isn't one of them.

general_lee

What would be the biggest blow-in club at the minute? St Brigid's? Bredagh? Carryduff? East Belfast?

imtommygunn

East Belfast would be nothing but "blow ins" really. St Brigids move up the table with the downeys but the south Belfast area demographic wise etc just works like that I think. (I'd consider Carryduff south belfast). St brigids, Carryduff and bredagh have had very strong underage for a long time now so really they are more or less second generation blow ins.

Dubh driocht

Of the 15 players that started for Bredagh against Burren in the championship, 13 have come up through the ranks. For Carryduff against Ballyholland the figure is also 13. Comparable to most clubs in Down.

imtommygunn

Yeah they've had good setups for ages. East Belfast can't be anything but "blow ins" but over time that will change.

St brigids very strong too. Only real exception the Downey story but they have consistently been in the top few teams at minor level for a good few years.

screenexile

Quote from: imtommygunn on September 21, 2024, 07:55:55 PMYeah they've had good setups for ages. East Belfast can't be anything but "blow ins" but over time that will change.

St brigids very strong too. Only real exception the Downey story but they have consistently been in the top few teams at minor level for a good few years.

Mainly due to Brolly's outstanding work over the years I'm sure!

Truthsayer

Quote from: screenexile on September 23, 2024, 09:59:53 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on September 21, 2024, 07:55:55 PMYeah they've had good setups for ages. East Belfast can't be anything but "blow ins" but over time that will change.

St brigids very strong too. Only real exception the Downey story but they have consistently been in the top few teams at minor level for a good few years.

Mainly due to Brolly's outstanding work over the years I'm sure!
Along with others he did good work there.

johnnycool

Quote from: clonian on September 20, 2024, 12:10:58 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 20, 2024, 11:53:38 AM
Quote from: ck on September 20, 2024, 11:06:06 AM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 19, 2024, 01:33:18 PM
Quote from: ck on September 19, 2024, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: Truthsayer on September 19, 2024, 11:09:52 AMDid you make up or embellish half of that? He is on record as saying only club members should manage a club, same as being a player. To transfer to a club have to live or work in the area (though I sure is ones get around that!). As he lives in Mayo...
Do you know that Dungiven wouldn't have him or is that just an opinion?
Which positions did he apply for and 'get laughed out of it'?
He was turned down at St Brigids, don't know if he was laughed out of it... was very successful as a minor manager there. Which others? Maybe he was.. just wondering.
Seems you are accusing him of the very thing you are doing.... or is all your comments factual?
Where does he get time for the podcasts!! What? !

I think it's a fair point that you raise re facts so I'll stick to them rather than muddy with my opinion. I stand to be corrected here but he won nothing as a club minor manager, with reportedly the best team in the county. The team was taken over by someone else and they won the u20 c/ship. Also I am familiar with Dungiven Gaels and they'd be sharp in their response when Brolly is mentioned!

So all any "outside" manager has to do is to be a club member and all is forgiven by Brolly? That's just ridiculous, surely anyone can become a club member? Unless you put a time frame on it, say has to be a member for 3 years? What about the ex player whos membership has lapsed, can he not manage the team? It's just nonsense.


Did he not manage St Brigids to win the Antrim minor championship? I think he did... and got to U16 Paul McGirr Cup final (Ulster).
Club player is supposed to live or work in the area and he suggested the manager be the same, so there no need to wait three years. I took it to mean manage a team in Mayo as he now lives there. I doubt he needs money through that source of income.
Dungiven haven't won the county championship since he was playing, 1997 so players not in much of a position to slag him off. 

No he won nothing with minors (I checked it out) and took them at u20 also and went out in 1st round.
New man took on u20s year after and they won the c/ship, so I'm not sure why he thinks he should be considered for a senior job. It smacks of entitlement and arrogance.
You mentioned Brollys assertion that "outside" managers should be club members which you clarified as living and working in the area. Brolly didnt even live in county Antrim, he lived in Co.Down next door to Bredagh GAC. By his own logic he rules himself out again of any dealings with St.Brigids. His own son plays for Bredagh.
Now he's talking about managing a club in Mayo.

It's just the endless hypocracy and BS that he spouts which seems to fool a lot of people.

Who did you check it out with? A mirror? That's full of either deliberate or ignorant inaccuracies and I can't be bothered going through them all.
He won minor and U16 county titles with St Brigids, lived in Co Antrim and had son with St Brigids  :D

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=999907340138972&id=100063927880237

One of his sons hurls for Bredagh - hence one of the stories about Bredagh & St Patricks (Ballela & Ballyvarley) a couple of weeks ago in the podcast. He said minor semi final but it was u16.

Yes, he's a son who hurls with Bredagh, but what did he say in the podcast about the U16 shield final against St Patricks combo?