Joe Brolly

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Brendan

Probably depends on the school you went to as that's where I learned amhrán na bhfiann and the prayers as Gaeilge, probably been better promoting our Irish identity by making us better footballers than teaching us songs and prayers right enough

screenexile

Quote from: Truthsayer on August 17, 2024, 02:13:47 PMMust say I never felt as a 2nd class citizen regarding being Irish coming from 'the north'. Might have felt we were not up to the level of traditional top teams like Dublin, Kerry, Offaly back then but I'd say Monaghan felt the same way.
I also learnt Amhrán naBhfiann at primary school, prayers in Irish, the tricolour was our flag etc... I think Canavan said at the time, there were players embarrassed they didn't know the anthem. Jees! They stood to attention enough times before games to know it.
Theyre may have been a thing down south we are 'british' to use as an insult but I (or family or friends as far as im aware) never felt second class Irishness... if anything we had more respect for the anthem and flag.


Try playing GAA down South and see how much of a second class citizen you are... I played in Dublin for 2 years and lost count of the number of times I was called a dirty Brit/Nordy bastard!

Keyser soze

We were taught the anthem in english at primary school. Like wtaf?

tiempo

Our primary and secondary schools didn't have the requisite celtic soul (ref Jerry Lynch), a very low bar set in terms of culture and games, not even a hint of leaning the anthem in either, as a young person this fucked me off

imtommygunn

I can sing the national anthem, say the our father and ask how to go to the toilet in Irish... Taught well  ;D

From the Bunker

Quote from: Truthsayer on August 19, 2024, 12:13:07 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on August 19, 2024, 11:17:26 AMWe were taught the anthem in english at primary school. Like wtaf?
That's bizarre. That's like singing La Marseillaise in English!

I was taught the Anthem in Irish and in English. First in English in 2nd Class and then in Irish in 5th Class.
Our 2nd Class Teacher had huge Republican views and made us sing the anthem at the end of the School day - Everyday!
He tell us to stand straight, chest out and hands by our side. Anyone who failed or waivered got a prompt kick up the arse - no joking!

I think it is important to know it in both languages.

Write boys

I believe the national anthem was composed in English and then later translated to Gaeilge. Still no reason not to sing it as Gaeilge

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: screenexile on August 18, 2024, 10:31:55 PMTry playing GAA down South and see how much of a second class citizen you are... I played in Dublin for 2 years and lost count of the number of times I was called a dirty Brit/Nordy bastard!

Not even a Canadian one?

From the Bunker

Quote from: Write boys on August 19, 2024, 04:29:37 PMI believe the national anthem was composed in English and then later translated to Gaeilge. Still no reason not to sing it as Gaeilge

I am proud to know it in both Languages. It adds more strings to my bow. And I intermix which version i sing.

From the Bunker

Quote from: Truthsayer on August 19, 2024, 05:22:36 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 19, 2024, 05:13:31 PM
Quote from: Write boys on August 19, 2024, 04:29:37 PMI believe the national anthem was composed in English and then later translated to Gaeilge. Still no reason not to sing it as Gaeilge

I am proud to know it in both Languages. It adds more strings to my bow. And I intermix which version i sing.
Good man. Do you know the Irish national anthem in any other languages?

No

screenexile

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 19, 2024, 05:02:59 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 18, 2024, 10:31:55 PMTry playing GAA down South and see how much of a second class citizen you are... I played in Dublin for 2 years and lost count of the number of times I was called a dirty Brit/Nordy bastard!

Not even a Canadian one?

Touché

RedHand88

Quote from: Keyser soze on August 19, 2024, 11:17:26 AMWe were taught the anthem in english at primary school. Like wtaf?

The anthem was written in English. There wasn't an official Irish version until years later.

Truthsayer

Quote from: RedHand88 on August 21, 2024, 07:22:18 AM
Quote from: Keyser soze on August 19, 2024, 11:17:26 AMWe were taught the anthem in english at primary school. Like wtaf?

The anthem was written in English. There wasn't an official Irish version until years later.
Not that long after. Written 1909 then Irish version 1926. Bizarre that it was taught in schools in English decades later.

Taylor

Quote from: Keyser soze on August 19, 2024, 11:17:26 AMWe were taught the anthem in english at primary school. Like wtaf?

Same.
Looking back now it really is a WTF

OakleafCounty

I'm not an Irish speaker bar a few words but the anthem is much better in Irish. Very much a song of its time when you look at it in English.