Laois Senior Hurling Championship

[clonadmad]

Agreed- that will be a consequence.
Bloated SHC will allow the top clubs to mind their first 17 for longer.

As well as weakening their competition by taking two of the stronger clubs out of the PIHC.

Have they decided what happens to the 5 teams after the group?

I presume it's
1- SF
2- QF
3- QF
4- Year over
5- Relegation Playoff

Or is 4 also in relegation danger?

For a lad that thinks he knows everything

I'm surprised you don't know how the 2025 SHC will work

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The championship will be played on a round robin league basis, with teams criss-crossing and playing a team in the opposite Group in each round.

So while you are playing teams from the opposite group, your points total is up against the teams in your group and each team will have five matches.

The top team in each group will go to the semi final while the second and third teams will face off in a quarter final.

The fourth-placed team will be out while the bottom side in each group will play the relegation final.

[clonadmad]

The vote last year if I recall correctly was tight decided principally by a few football only clubs who were probably lobbied by one or two hurling clubs who were actively pushing it. Usually football clubs would abstain if they had no skin in the game. That's democracy. It's done and dusted for the next few years but it doesn't mean it was the right decision. Funny enough, I think it will level out the Premier Intermediate division but could well lead to the likes of Camross and Rathdownwy/Errill winning it. I expect B/K to win Premier Intermediate but it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that a second team could get to the final.     

Clubs were first asked to vote on whether or not to retain the current eight-team system and that was narrowly defeated.

They were then asked to choose between 10 and 12 teams with the 10 team format

unanimously

wining out.

[Verbal]

Tiresome.

If you wanted to do a bit of research.
As was discussed here last November.

Co Board review group allowed a 12 team proposal go to the clubs (knowing it wouldn't pass) in the hope that it would mean 8 won out.

Clubs then lobbied to get 10 on the table.

Impressive maneuvering from the clubs involved. But not the correct outcome for the overall good.

And btw- what I said I presumed in terms of group finishing places is actually correct?
God, I was very far out wasn't I!

An awful ghoul to be dealing with.

[Verbal]

So Co Board maneuvers to include a 12 team proposal back fired badly.

[Verbal]

Fair.

I think the poll speaks for itself.

A straight vote between an 8 team and a 12 team championship would have resulted in 8.

I wonder what a straight vote between 8 team and 10 team would have resulted in.

The biggest problem is that we are going to be stuck with this for a very long time.

Good luck getting any of the clubs ranked 5-10 in the SHC or any of the IHC clubs voting for multiple relegations in the same year.

That's my biggest fear with it.
It's not going to be easy to revert.

[ardtole]

I've backed Camross to win Laois SHC, I see they lost to Rathdowney 2 or 3 weeks ago. What is the current state of affairs? I find it difficult to get results and fixtures on the Laois gaa site.

[clonadmad]

Fair.

I think the poll speaks for itself.

A straight vote between an 8 team and a 12 team championship would have resulted in 8.

I wonder what a straight vote between 8 team and 10 team would have resulted in.

The biggest problem is that we are going to be stuck with this for a very long time.

Good luck getting any of the clubs ranked 5-10 in the SHC or any of the IHC clubs voting for multiple relegations in the same year.

That's my biggest fear with it.
It's not going to be easy to revert.

Yep 14 votes in total on an anonymous forum

That surely must be very representative of every hurling supporter in the county on the topic, all right

The Clubs voted for it so they were in favor of it

That's Democracy

[clonadmad]

The 2025 SHC could look like as follows (with apologies in advance to both Colt Shanahoe and Clonaslee,based on current form )

Ballacolla
Harps
Abbeyleix
Rosenallis

Rathdowney
Portlaoise
Camross
Castletown

and potentially 2 from 3 of the following;  Borris,Ballinakill or Ballyfin

who wouldnt drag the standard of the 2025 Championship down, in fairness to any of the 3 clubs

[Verbal]

Ballinakill and Ballyfin would be no additions to the SHC at present.
Unfortunately.

[burdizzo]

Ballinakill and Ballyfin would be no additions to the SHC at present.
Unfortunately.

I'd imagine Ballyfin would be the worser of the two. I suppose the Gaels option is still out? If you're going to be promoting these teams that're not up to the standard, you'd nearly have to let them have a couple of extra players. Not that I think Ballyfin will qualify anyway, but still.

[Verbal]

Ballinakill and Ballyfin would be no additions to the SHC at present.
Unfortunately.

I'd imagine Ballyfin would be the worser of the two. I suppose the Gaels option is still out? If you're going to be promoting these teams that're not up to the standard, you'd nearly have to let them have a couple of extra players. Not that I think Ballyfin will qualify anyway, but still.

What is the current status of Gaels teams.

It got very complicated around 2016-19ish.
Are they allowed Senior or not allowed these days?

[burdizzo]

Ballinakill and Ballyfin would be no additions to the SHC at present.
Unfortunately.

I'd imagine Ballyfin would be the worser of the two. I suppose the Gaels option is still out? If you're going to be promoting these teams that're not up to the standard, you'd nearly have to let them have a couple of extra players. Not that I think Ballyfin will qualify anyway, but still.

What is the current status of Gaels teams.

It got very complicated around 2016-19ish.
Are they allowed Senior or not allowed these days?

They currently aren't allowed, but I don't know if that can be or will be revisited in light of this expanded championship.

[Voice of tReason]

Ballinakill and Ballyfin would be no additions to the SHC at present.
Unfortunately.

I'd imagine Ballyfin would be the worser of the two. I suppose the Gaels option is still out? If you're going to be promoting these teams that're not up to the standard, you'd nearly have to let them have a couple of extra players. Not that I think Ballyfin will qualify anyway, but still.

What is the current status of Gaels teams.

It got very complicated around 2016-19ish.
Are they allowed Senior or not allowed these days?

I think Gaels teams have to be completely non-senior. I think that was mentioned at Convention a few years back.

[Verbal]

So the only thing that could be considered would be something like Ballyfin and Clonaslee seeking to enter a team in the SHC as Ballyfin Gaels kinda thing?

They definitely won't ever allow that. Having to change competition structures to allow it!

[Laois man]

Any predictions for the Cship games this weekend. Camross to beat Plaois Abbeyleix V Harps should be very close. Rdowney. /Errill V Ctown is a dead rubber Rdowney /Errill to win here after a good fight from Ctown.