Laois Senior Hurling Championship

[Boards]

With restructuring of Championship for 2025 increasing Senior Hurling Championship from 8 to 10 teams, meaning no relegation for 2024 and both finalists gaining promotion. Just wanted to gain a sense of the general opinion on the topic

[burdizzo]

Perhaps change the title of the thread, since there's already a SHC one?

[Verbal]

It is an horrendous decision.
No basis for thinking that we have more than 8 Senior teams.

It didn't stop Portlaoise & Abbeyleix building back up following relegation.

It will promote mediocrity all round. 3-4 clubs every year knowing that all they have to do is beat X or Y to avoid relegation.
This has a direct impact on training levels and quality.
Which has a direct impact on the quality of play.
Which has a direct impact on the standard of hurling in the county.

The idea of "exposing more players to senior is a myth".
We are exposing them to mediocrity.

[Laois man]

Jesus folks we have 16 so called senior football teams.

[Spiritof1915]

It's worth a trial run. Seems to be working effectively in offaly the last couple of years.
There's been plenty of dead rubbers the last few years iin the current format.
The only alteration I'd make is bottom 2 in each group go into relegation semi finals instead of bottom teams. Might make it more competitive

[Boards]

Jesus folks we have 16 so called senior football teams.

And is there really even 8 Senior standard looks like their planning to split it in the next few years introducing the idea by this senior b cup for the bottom teams

[Boards]

It's worth a trial run. Seems to be working effectively in offaly the last couple of years.
There's been plenty of dead rubbers the last few years iin the current format.
The only alteration I'd make is bottom 2 in each group go into relegation semi finals instead of bottom teams. Might make it more competitive

Not too sure about it might work out but one thing for definite is it will weaken the lower teirs

[Verbal]

Jesus folks we have 16 so called senior football teams.

We don't.

We have 16 teams in the championship.

Laois football has been in free fall for 15 of the last 20 years.

Strong teams (& clubs) get relegated in Kilkenny.
Sometimes moving down more than one grade.
They make the championship they move down into stronger.
The ones that are able and well set up regroup & come back up stronger.
They rarely yo-yo up and down.

You don't need to be hurling senior in Laois to get noticed for intercounty.
I don't see any good argument for increasing the number of teams.

The interest that was generated by having an open draw with winners and losers sides is worth exploring again.

The idea of preparing for a game for a few months (& not worrying about/targeting subsequent games) brought a sharpness to the whole thing.

That's my thoughts on it anyways!

[Downtheroad]

It is an horrendous decision.
No basis for thinking that we have more than 8 Senior teams.

It didn't stop Portlaoise & Abbeyleix building back up following relegation.

It will promote mediocrity all round. 3-4 clubs every year knowing that all they have to do is beat X or Y to avoid relegation.
This has a direct impact on training levels and quality.
Which has a direct impact on the quality of play.
Which has a direct impact on the standard of hurling in the county.

The idea of "exposing more players to senior is a myth".
We are exposing them to mediocrity.

Have to agree. Rosenallis and Castletown are effectively finished for the year after two games with no fear of relegation. It will be interesting to see how they perform in Round 3. For 2025, they will be hoping some cannon fodder get promoted along with B/K.   

[LaoisAbu20]

It is an horrendous decision.
No basis for thinking that we have more than 8 Senior teams.

It didn't stop Portlaoise & Abbeyleix building back up following relegation.

It will promote mediocrity all round. 3-4 clubs every year knowing that all they have to do is beat X or Y to avoid relegation.
This has a direct impact on training levels and quality.
Which has a direct impact on the quality of play.
Which has a direct impact on the standard of hurling in the county.

The idea of "exposing more players to senior is a myth".
We are exposing them to mediocrity.

Have to agree. Rosenallis and Castletown are effectively finished for the year after two games with no fear of relegation. It will be interesting to see how they perform in Round 3. For 2025, they will be hoping some cannon fodder get promoted along with B/K.   

I've heard Rosenallis are conceding their match against Clough Ballacolla. Pretty dismal if true

[Spiritof1915]

Heard that also. Shocking stuff

[ottoman]

It is an horrendous decision.
No basis for thinking that we have more than 8 Senior teams.

It didn't stop Portlaoise & Abbeyleix building back up following relegation.

It will promote mediocrity all round. 3-4 clubs every year knowing that all they have to do is beat X or Y to avoid relegation.
This has a direct impact on training levels and quality.
Which has a direct impact on the quality of play.
Which has a direct impact on the standard of hurling in the county.

The idea of "exposing more players to senior is a myth".
We are exposing them to mediocrity.

Have to agree. Rosenallis and Castletown are effectively finished for the year after two games with no fear of relegation. It will be interesting to see how they perform in Round 3. For 2025, they will be hoping some cannon fodder get promoted along with B/K.   

I've heard Rosenallis are conceding their match against Clough Ballacolla. Pretty dismal if true

How can a supposedly senior hurling team, in a county such as Laois, concede a championship match? Is there something I'm missing? 

[Voice of tReason]

I'd be inclined to blame the format rather than Rosenallis.
Especially as they are one of the few legitimate dual clubs we have in the county.

The second round where winners play winners and losers play losers just hasn't worked at all.

[georgedoylesrightleg]

howld on now, rosenallis are 1 o few clubs who bother there bollix in both codes in dis county. anyone havin a cut off them can look at the other hurlin clubvs n how they treat football n same for football clubs re hurlin. deyre entitled do what they like. flat out playin both year in year out n never make a sound. even played league dead rubber dis year. pull asy now boys.

[clonadmad]

I'd always have a soft spot towards Rosenallis as they are the only rural club in the county who are Senior in both Hurling and Football.

They always go about their business in the right way and there is a large cross over of their players trying to play both codes.

They are an example to every other club in the county

That said,a walkover at Senior Championship level is an awful look for any County

The reality is We probably have 3 at most Senior standard clubs relative to our neighbouring hurling counties

Whether it's another 5 or 7 clubs calling themselves Senior is a moot point

If people were being honest,it should probably be a 4 team senior championship or at most a 6 team one.