Gaelic Football - Rules & Regulations discussion/clarification

[Milltown Row2]

MR is the only one who can tell, on here, what might work from a ref's level but you'd like to think that's happening at HQ too.

On a basic club level set up it's bonkers..

Tuesday night pissing down in some council pitch, never lined out or a shared pitch with dozens of lines from soccer and GAA on it, some ref's not able or as fit as they'd like to be to get in vision, then the fat lazy hanger ons over the fence telling ya to keep up

[JoG2]

MR is the only one who can tell, on here, what might work from a ref's level but you'd like to think that's happening at HQ too.

Gianni too of course

[Gianni]

MR is the only one who can tell, on here, what might work from a ref's level but you'd like to think that's happening at HQ too.

Gianni too of course

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[Would ye whist]

2 queries:

1. in a club game if a player is fouled within the D and 21 with a goal scoring opportunity is it a penalty or is that just intercounty?

2. Sliding tackle- if a player slides in feet first to win a ball and does not touch an opponent coming in to challenge for the ball but does not due to the player sliding in, free or not?

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

2 queries:

1. in a club game if a player is fouled within the D and 21 with a goal scoring opportunity is it a penalty or is that just intercounty?

2. Sliding tackle- if a player slides in feet first to win a ball and does not touch an opponent coming in to challenge for the ball but does not due to the player sliding in, free or not?

The point a lot of people miss on this is that it must be one of the black card offences, not just any foul.

[Milltown Row2]

2 queries:

1. in a club game if a player is fouled within the D and 21 with a goal scoring opportunity is it a penalty or is that just intercounty?

2. Sliding tackle- if a player slides in feet first to win a ball and does not touch an opponent coming in to challenge for the ball but does not due to the player sliding in, free or not?

First one is intercounty, as DIE says, its got to be cynical/deliberate and a clear goal scoring opportunity, that the referee believes was stopped, not what the guy hanging over the fence thinks

A player can slide in anywhere on the pitch but if the referee deems it dangerous or reckless he can call a foul and dish out a card. Not touching the player can still be a free, if it could have been reckless or dangerous,  but no need for card just a free.

Conditions though play a part, on a soak drenched night there will be more people going to ground, all about making sure those things are taken into consideration.

I'd a player that did that yesterday, no hassle slid in no contact but the defender coming out was slightly impeded and enough for a free out and no need far cards

[square_ball]

2 queries:

1. in a club game if a player is fouled within the D and 21 with a goal scoring opportunity is it a penalty or is that just intercounty?

2. Sliding tackle- if a player slides in feet first to win a ball and does not touch an opponent coming in to challenge for the ball but does not due to the player sliding in, free or not?

The point a lot of people miss on this is that it must be one of the black card offences, not just any foul.

Its also a point a lot of people miss when they call for black cards in normal play and not just in the denying of a goalscoring opportunity situation.

[AustinPowers]

An attacking player  is tangled up in the net , behind the goal line , just as the ball is fisted into the square

He then enters  the square  from behind the goal line and fists it  into the net.

Legitimate goal?

[Milltown Row2]

An attacking player  is tangled up in the net , behind the goal line , just as the ball is fisted into the square

He then enters  the square  from behind the goal line and fists it  into the net.

Legitimate goal?

If a player leaves the end line comes back in to gain an advantage and scores it's illegal

If a player is unintentionally tangled inside the net then that's ok as he didn't do it to gain an advantage

Well that would be my reading into it

[Link]

In hurling, if you attempt to pull on the ball and miss it plus don't make contact with another hurl/player whilst another player from the opposition controls and catches the ball, is it a foul?

Unsure if there is a hurling version of this thread but wondered on the above.

Another interesting one is Shane O'Donnell's goal yesterday. 10 or 11 steps but is fouled twice during this.

[Milltown Row2]

In hurling, if you attempt to pull on the ball and miss it plus don't make contact with another hurl/player whilst another player from the opposition controls and catches the ball, is it a foul?

Unsure if there is a hurling version of this thread but wondered on the above.

Another interesting one is Shane O'Donnell's goal yesterday. 10 or 11 steps but is fouled twice during this.

If you attempt to play the ball and miss both ball player then that's fine. If you pull early, wildly/dangerously/carelessly then that's a yellow card, if you connect with the head it's a red.

Not sure on O'Donnell's steps, didn't see game but .. if fouled twice did the ref give advantage?

[Link]

In hurling, if you attempt to pull on the ball and miss it plus don't make contact with another hurl/player whilst another player from the opposition controls and catches the ball, is it a foul?

Unsure if there is a hurling version of this thread but wondered on the above.

Another interesting one is Shane O'Donnell's goal yesterday. 10 or 11 steps but is fouled twice during this.

If you attempt to play the ball and miss both ball player then that's fine. If you pull early, wildly/dangerously/carelessly then that's a yellow card, if you connect with the head it's a red.

Not sure on O'Donnell's steps, didn't see game but .. if fouled twice did the ref give advantage?

I've seen one ref in antrim play on, the other give a free. Exact same situation, both were honest attempts at a pull.

I'm going to assume ref gave advantage for O'Donnell as they were clear fouls. Ball ended up in the net after all the steps and wexford didn't appeal it.

[Milltown Row2]

In hurling, if you attempt to pull on the ball and miss it plus don't make contact with another hurl/player whilst another player from the opposition controls and catches the ball, is it a foul?

Unsure if there is a hurling version of this thread but wondered on the above.

Another interesting one is Shane O'Donnell's goal yesterday. 10 or 11 steps but is fouled twice during this.

If you attempt to play the ball and miss both ball player then that's fine. If you pull early, wildly/dangerously/carelessly then that's a yellow card, if you connect with the head it's a red.

Not sure on O'Donnell's steps, didn't see game but .. if fouled twice did the ref give advantage?

I've seen one ref in antrim play on, the other give a free. Exact same situation, both were honest attempts at a pull.

I'm going to assume ref gave advantage for O'Donnell as they were clear fouls. Ball ended up in the net after all the steps and wexford didn't appeal it.

All about interpretation 

[johnnycool]

In hurling, if you attempt to pull on the ball and miss it plus don't make contact with another hurl/player whilst another player from the opposition controls and catches the ball, is it a foul?

Unsure if there is a hurling version of this thread but wondered on the above.

Another interesting one is Shane O'Donnell's goal yesterday. 10 or 11 steps but is fouled twice during this.

If you attempt to play the ball and miss both ball player then that's fine. If you pull early, wildly/dangerously/carelessly then that's a yellow card, if you connect with the head it's a red.

Not sure on O'Donnell's steps, didn't see game but .. if fouled twice did the ref give advantage?

I've seen one ref in antrim play on, the other give a free. Exact same situation, both were honest attempts at a pull.

I'm going to assume ref gave advantage for O'Donnell as they were clear fouls. Ball ended up in the net after all the steps and wexford didn't appeal it.

The O'Donnell type situation and the advantage rule is a strange one.

It seems to be that once the player in possession is fouled the referee resets (whether intentionally or not) the step count to zero. In that one on Saturday the Wexford lad persisted with the fouling and O'Donnell continued to take steps all the while the referee played advantage.

Once O'Donnell broke free he did play the ball as up to that point he couldn't play the ball due to the pulling on his arms.

I've said all along, stop the "spare arm tackle" which isn't in the rulebook for hurling and enforce the steps rule and we'll have a better game where defenders will be taught to tackle properly and have the ability to take the ball from an opponent who can't overcarry.

That cat is well out of the bag though!

[marty34]

In hurling, if you attempt to pull on the ball and miss it plus don't make contact with another hurl/player whilst another player from the opposition controls and catches the ball, is it a foul?

Unsure if there is a hurling version of this thread but wondered on the above.

Another interesting one is Shane O'Donnell's goal yesterday. 10 or 11 steps but is fouled twice during this.

If you attempt to play the ball and miss both ball player then that's fine. If you pull early, wildly/dangerously/carelessly then that's a yellow card, if you connect with the head it's a red.

Not sure on O'Donnell's steps, didn't see game but .. if fouled twice did the ref give advantage?

I've seen one ref in antrim play on, the other give a free. Exact same situation, both were honest attempts at a pull.

I'm going to assume ref gave advantage for O'Donnell as they were clear fouls. Ball ended up in the net after all the steps and wexford didn't appeal it.

The O'Donnell type situation and the advantage rule is a strange one.

It seems to be that once the player in possession is fouled the referee resets (whether intentionally or not) the step count to zero. In that one on Saturday the Wexford lad persisted with the fouling and O'Donnell continued to take steps all the while the referee played advantage.

Once O'Donnell broke free he did play the ball as up to that point he couldn't play the ball due to the pulling on his arms.

I've said all along, stop the "spare arm tackle" which isn't in the rulebook for hurling and enforce the steps rule and we'll have a better game where defenders will be taught to tackle properly and have the ability to take the ball from an opponent who can't overcarry.

That cat is well out of the bag though!

Like the 'handpass'.