Sam Maguire 2024 Group 2 - Dublin, Mayo, Roscommon, Cavan

[Hound]

Just looking at the evidence of last year 3 of the teams that came through the prelims weren't competitive, and extra week would have helped abit I'm sure.

But everyone knows what they need to do at the start if they want the week off.
Plus you can't make a judgement based on one year. When the backdoor came in first, there was one year when all four provincial winners lost in the quarters and the narrative was it was great to get extra games as it builds up momentum. Then another year when all provincial winners win the quarters the narrative is reversed. In reality the best teams usually win.

Dubs may be having a little bit of a hangover from Last year's All Ireland win. The Derry league final and today are the biggest games we've played and done quite well but not firing on all cylinders. Not letting Mayo beat us was important psychologically but an extra competitive game wouldn't have done us any harm.

[Rossfan]

Hope ye all behaved yerselves in the Hyde

[Hound]

Well done to Dublin, they proved today they can win outside Croke Park.

That's strange, they proved they can win by drawing a game?

Brendan, I only see his posts when someone quotes him, but I'd strongly recommend to take everything he posts with a very big pinch of salt!

[From the Bunker]

Well done to Dublin, they proved today they can win outside Croke Park.

That's strange, they proved they can win by drawing a game?

Goes to prove there is little or no advantage for them playing in Croke Park.

[From the Bunker]

Just looking at the evidence of last year 3 of the teams that came through the prelims weren't competitive, and extra week would have helped abit I'm sure.

But everyone knows what they need to do at the start if they want the week off.
Plus you can't make a judgement based on one year. When the backdoor came in first, there was one year when all four provincial winners lost in the quarters and the narrative was it was great to get extra games as it builds up momentum. Then another year when all provincial winners win the quarters the narrative is reversed. In reality the best teams usually win.

Dubs may be having a little bit of a hangover from Last year's All Ireland win. The Derry league final and today are the biggest games we've played and done quite well but not firing on all cylinders. Not letting Mayo beat us was important psychologically but an extra competitive game wouldn't have done us any harm.

So the analogy is - Put the weaker teams at a severe disadvantage going into the quarter final stage. 

[Saffrongael]

Great game, unlucky to Mayo, but the Dubs looking human at least which is good for everyone.

There could be 4 savage strong quarter finals

You'd imagine Mayo, Galway and Tyrone will have enough for any of the third place teams at home.

And they wont have enough for 3 games in 3 weeks.

Yeah that is definitely something that needs looked at

I don't understand this rationale.

Firstly these teams have no problem playing 3 weeks in a row. But a week off is preferable and therefore that meant there was something on the line today in these two matches. Which meant we got two really good matches. Galway and Mayo had every chance to get their week off, they were both ahead late on, but both fall a fraction short of pulling off the win, therefore, Armagh and Dubs deserve their week off

The way Armagh and Dublin celebrated they have a BIG problem playing 3 weeks in a row. Don't kid yourself.

Exactly

[Mario]

Great game, unlucky to Mayo, but the Dubs looking human at least which is good for everyone.

There could be 4 savage strong quarter finals

You'd imagine Mayo, Galway and Tyrone will have enough for any of the third place teams at home.

Tyrone haven't beat Derry in about 5 years.

[yellowcard]

Just looking at the evidence of last year 3 of the teams that came through the prelims weren't competitive, and extra week would have helped abit I'm sure.

Yeah, it's loaded to make it virtually impossible to win three weeks in a row.

The benefit of an extra week is overplayed I think. What about a team that builds momentum by winning every week.

The reason 3 teams won their quarter final last year is simply because they were the best teams, hence the reason they topped their groups. The same is likely to happen again this year only hopefully Armagh can progress this time.

From an Armagh point of view certainly I always feel as though we are much better playing games every week so that we don't have too much time to over analyse the opposition. Look at Geezers record in qualifier and League matches as opposed to whenever we have a long lead in time to matches.

[tonto1888]

No team will want to go to Mayo. Hope its Derry, put them out of their misery. Despite his detractors on social media huge credit to Aidan O'Shea he's give it all for his county for many years.

One of my favourite players not from my own county

[Cunny Funt]

Missed opportunity for Mayo. Did a lot right, no goal conceded, broke even in midfield, more turn overs and more scoring chances than Dublin and it was the Dubs that just about avoided a defeat with the last play of the game.

Mayo now have the unwanted schedule of three matches in consecutive weekends should they reach the last 8 and it will be much harder to reach the last 4 now.

On a side note great to see all the children on the field  after the game and the players taking time out to sign autographs and take pictures. An experience the Dublin players don't share too often with supporters not allowed on the Croke Park field.

[From the Bunker]

Just looking at the evidence of last year 3 of the teams that came through the prelims weren't competitive, and extra week would have helped abit I'm sure.

Yeah, it's loaded to make it virtually impossible to win three weeks in a row.

The benefit of an extra week is overplayed I think. What about a team that builds momentum by winning every week.

The reason 3 teams won their quarter final last year is simply because they were the best teams, hence the reason they topped their groups. The same is likely to happen again this year only hopefully Armagh can progress this time.

From an Armagh point of view certainly I always feel as though we are much better playing games every week so that we don't have too much time to over analyse the opposition. Look at Geezers record in qualifier and League matches as opposed to whenever we have a long lead in time to matches.

It's 3 games in 14 days. It will make a difference. Mayo were goosed from the middle game v Galway last year. You'll pick up knocks that take more than 7 days to recover from. Older players recovery time is greater. It's a disaster. Plus getting your head right 3 weeks in a row.

[SouthOfThe Bann]

Same old story with Mayo.

A galliant effort but fall short.

Should have been a bit more cynical on that last attack.

Dublin probably still only in 3rd or 4th gear. But great to see them stutter a bit.

[highorlow]

Whatever about the booing by some "supporters" and other shit that does be happening on the pitch you have to hand it to the GAA when it comes to paying tribute to our people.

There was a great tribute today for Maxie Macmanamon (R.I.P) prior to throw in.

[tonto1888]

Just looking at the evidence of last year 3 of the teams that came through the prelims weren't competitive, and extra week would have helped abit I'm sure.

Yeah, it's loaded to make it virtually impossible to win three weeks in a row.

The benefit of an extra week is overplayed I think. What about a team that builds momentum by winning every week.

The reason 3 teams won their quarter final last year is simply because they were the best teams, hence the reason they topped their groups. The same is likely to happen again this year only hopefully Armagh can progress this time.

From an Armagh point of view certainly I always feel as though we are much better playing games every week so that we don't have too much time to over analyse the opposition. Look at Geezers record in qualifier and League matches as opposed to whenever we have a long lead in time to matches.

We'll only have a week this time. 5 days if we are a Saturday

[UpMeeyo]

Just looking at the evidence of last year 3 of the teams that came through the prelims weren't competitive, and extra week would have helped abit I'm sure.

But everyone knows what they need to do at the start if they want the week off.
Plus you can't make a judgement based on one year. When the backdoor came in first, there was one year when all four provincial winners lost in the quarters and the narrative was it was great to get extra games as it builds up momentum. Then another year when all provincial winners win the quarters the narrative is reversed. In reality the best teams usually win.

Dubs may be having a little bit of a hangover from Last year's All Ireland win. The Derry league final and today are the biggest games we've played and done quite well but not firing on all cylinders. Not letting Mayo beat us was important psychologically but an extra competitive game wouldn't have done us any harm.

On the one hand I think some of this narrative about 3 games in two weeks being bad is partly because we got 2 rotten draws last year in Galway and Dublin and if one of those was kinder it would be easier to go to the well. But for the underdog seed 2 and 3's to stand any chance against Kerry's and Dublin's you need a free weekend before to prep a game plan. In 3 of the 4 groups this year the seed 1s were settled on points difference, so essentially it came down to how much you could hockey the seed 4 team by. Seems too imbalanced.