Man Utd Thread:

Started by full back, November 10, 2006, 08:13:49 AM

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gallsman

Quote from: NAG1 on February 29, 2024, 11:20:43 AMTo be fair to AWB he was bought before this new era of Full Backs really took off. He was bought to be a more traditional defending type full back.

It not really his fault that the position has evolved in other teams into something that he just hasn't got the skill set for.

Attacking full backs weren't a thing until after 2019?!

NAG1

Quote from: gallsman on February 29, 2024, 02:05:20 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on February 29, 2024, 11:20:43 AMTo be fair to AWB he was bought before this new era of Full Backs really took off. He was bought to be a more traditional defending type full back.

It not really his fault that the position has evolved in other teams into something that he just hasn't got the skill set for.

Attacking full backs weren't a thing until after 2019?!

Not saying they weren't a thing, they weren't as advanced in terms of the tactical set up then as they are now in the way teams are deploying them.

Full backs are now dropping into midfield to create over loads and being expected to be able to do that being comfortable on the ball as well as being able to attack and defend.

Look at the way Dalot has been used even within a struggling team tactically. AWB was never going to be a ball playing full back, even though believe it or not he has improved on the ball during his time.

An Watcher

Jesus christ when you compare some of these clowns to the likes of Denis irwin and the money the clowns have earned in comparison.  Mental

NAG1

Quote from: An Watcher on February 29, 2024, 02:26:16 PMJesus christ when you compare some of these clowns to the likes of Denis irwin and the money the clowns have earned in comparison.  Mental

Rolls Royce

Ethan Tremblay

Quote from: An Watcher on February 29, 2024, 02:26:16 PMJesus christ when you compare some of these clowns to the likes of Denis irwin and the money the clowns have earned in comparison.  Mental

Speaking of clowns, it looks like Pogba is done as a professional.  A happy ending to a mercenary player that spoiled the club the past 10 years. 
I tend to think of myself as a one man wolfpack...

AustinPowers

Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on February 29, 2024, 03:13:48 PM
Quote from: An Watcher on February 29, 2024, 02:26:16 PMJesus christ when you compare some of these clowns to the likes of Denis irwin and the money the clowns have earned in comparison.  Mental

Speaking of clowns, it looks like Pogba is done as a professional.  A happy ending to a mercenary player that spoiled the club the past 10 years. 

I seen that. Good  riddance to him.  He is an  absolute tube. I don't think I've despised  a player as much as him in an United  shirt.

Cunny Funt

Can make a strong case that the players downed tools towards the end of Mourinho, Solskjaer time as manager and didn't pick them up at all for Rangnick but I don't think from watching the matches that you can say the players aren't playing for Ten Hag. It's more the reality that injuries has highlighted the lack of quality and strength in depth of the squad. It's a squad filled with players that are either past their best or will never will be good enough. Without Martinez, Shaw they struggle to play out from the back. Without Mainoo in midfield they struggle to string consecutive passes together and without the focal point and work rate of Hollund in the number 9 position it's basically like playing with 10 men.

Armagh18

Quote from: Cunny Funt on February 29, 2024, 05:58:38 PMCan make a strong case that the players downed tools towards the end of Mourinho, Solskjaer time as manager and didn't pick them up at all for Rangnick but I don't think from watching the matches that you can say the players aren't playing for Ten Hag. It's more the reality that injuries has highlighted the lack of quality and strength in depth of the squad. It's a squad filled with players that are either past their best or will never will be good enough. Without Martinez, Shaw they struggle to play out from the back. Without Mainoo in midfield they struggle to string consecutive passes together and without the focal point and work rate of Hollund in the number 9 position it's basically like playing with 10 men.
Yeah bar Rashford I think the rest are putting the effort in but mostly aren't good enough. Martinez and Shaw are when fit which isn't often enough. Hojlund, Mainoo and Garnacho are all good players with potential to be top drawer in the future. Antony looks like a fella who won a raffle to play for United or something.

gallsman

Incredible stats yesterday on Second Captains about the number of times teams have allowed 20+ shots against them.

United under ETH - 12 times in 64 league games.

Liverpool under Klopp - 2 times in 322 games

City under Pep - 4 times in 292

Arsenal under Arteta - 7 times in 161 games.

Blowitupref

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Quote from: gallsman on February 29, 2024, 07:15:15 PMIncredible stats yesterday on Second Captains about the number of times teams have allowed 20+ shots against them.

United under ETH - 12 times in 64 league games.

Liverpool under Klopp - 2 times in 322 games

City under Pep - 4 times in 292

Arsenal under Arteta - 7 times in 161 games.


Looked up that stat up for this season and it's happened 8 times,  The end results was defeats to Man City,Newcastle.  Drew with Liverpool and wins against Wolves,Everton,West ham,Aston Villa,Luton
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

gallsman

Sure just discount it then. ETH is at the wheel.

Armagh18

See Rashford has some shite on his social media giving out about people questioning his commitment. Be better off doing his talking on the pitch. If he'd put a shift in I honestly wouldnt mind if he wasn't playing well but the effort just isn't there. 

NAG1

Quote from: Armagh18 on February 29, 2024, 10:25:41 PMSee Rashford has some shite on his social media giving out about people questioning his commitment. Be better off doing his talking on the pitch. If he'd put a shift in I honestly wouldnt mind if he wasn't playing well but the effort just isn't there. 

Got to the stage where he wants to ride the wave of being the local boy doing good when things are going well, but when they aren't going well he doesn't want the attention that comes with being the local boy.

Armagh18

Quote from: NAG1 on March 01, 2024, 10:15:53 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 29, 2024, 10:25:41 PMSee Rashford has some shite on his social media giving out about people questioning his commitment. Be better off doing his talking on the pitch. If he'd put a shift in I honestly wouldnt mind if he wasn't playing well but the effort just isn't there. 

Got to the stage where he wants to ride the wave of being the local boy doing good when things are going well, but when they aren't going well he doesn't want the attention that comes with being the local boy.
Should be shown the door with his mates Pogba/Lingard/Sancho. Attitude stinks.

NAG1

Quote from: Armagh18 on March 01, 2024, 10:30:57 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 01, 2024, 10:15:53 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 29, 2024, 10:25:41 PMSee Rashford has some shite on his social media giving out about people questioning his commitment. Be better off doing his talking on the pitch. If he'd put a shift in I honestly wouldnt mind if he wasn't playing well but the effort just isn't there. 

Got to the stage where he wants to ride the wave of being the local boy doing good when things are going well, but when they aren't going well he doesn't want the attention that comes with being the local boy.
Should be shown the door with his mates Pogba/Lingard/Sancho. Attitude stinks.

By the sounds of it even the interest from PSG with the Mbappe money has cooled. So I don't see anyone that he would move too actually wanting him at this stage.