Man Utd Thread:

[From the Bunker]

Someone did say in this thread a few month ago, when United hadn't been conceding, that if they had a 25 goal striker they would be a mile ahead at the top of the table. Or words to that effect

Logic would tell you any team not conceding and with a prolific striker would be at the top of the table.

LVG is a sitting duck at this stage I would imagine he will get to the end of the season if he chooses to stay that long himself. With the Paris meetings with Pep even if he does end up at City shows the intention of the club.

My issue is where is Giggs is this is he window dressing and not having any say or is he choosing to stay quiet to protect his future?

Giggs is like any assistant - A yes man! Under Fergie, do you think he took orders from Archie Knox, Brian Kidd, McClaren, Jimmy Ryan, Carlos Queiroz and Mike Phelan. Giggs is there to help and assist.

[NAG1]

Someone did say in this thread a few month ago, when United hadn't been conceding, that if they had a 25 goal striker they would be a mile ahead at the top of the table. Or words to that effect

Logic would tell you any team not conceding and with a prolific striker would be at the top of the table.

LVG is a sitting duck at this stage I would imagine he will get to the end of the season if he chooses to stay that long himself. With the Paris meetings with Pep even if he does end up at City shows the intention of the club.

My issue is where is Giggs is this is he window dressing and not having any say or is he choosing to stay quiet to protect his future?

Giggs is like any assistant - A yes man! Under Fergie, do you think he took orders from Archie Knox, Brian Kidd, McClaren, Jimmy Ryan, Carlos Queiroz and Mike Phelan. Giggs is there to help and assist.

Im not expecting him to be giving orders but everyone of those guys you mentioned guided fergie and shaped the way the team played especially McClaren and Quieroz. Ferguson gave the overall drive but the coaches influenced the team I just dont see what Giggs does other than sit there and give some credibility to LVG with the fans.

Maybe he saw the writing on the wall early doors and has remained behind the scenes because of that.

[From the Bunker]

Someone did say in this thread a few month ago, when United hadn't been conceding, that if they had a 25 goal striker they would be a mile ahead at the top of the table. Or words to that effect

Logic would tell you any team not conceding and with a prolific striker would be at the top of the table.

LVG is a sitting duck at this stage I would imagine he will get to the end of the season if he chooses to stay that long himself. With the Paris meetings with Pep even if he does end up at City shows the intention of the club.

My issue is where is Giggs is this is he window dressing and not having any say or is he choosing to stay quiet to protect his future?

Giggs is like any assistant - A yes man! Under Fergie, do you think he took orders from Archie Knox, Brian Kidd, McClaren, Jimmy Ryan, Carlos Queiroz and Mike Phelan. Giggs is there to help and assist.

Im not expecting him to be giving orders but everyone of those guys you mentioned guided fergie and shaped the way the team played especially McClaren and Quieroz. Ferguson gave the overall drive but the coaches influenced the team I just dont see what Giggs does other than sit there and give some credibility to LVG with the fans.

Maybe he saw the writing on the wall early doors and has remained behind the scenes because of that.

Giggs was a great footballer who played for a long time for Man U. This (Might and) might not  mean he is an inspirational character in the dressing room or out on the field coaching. And in fairness we don't know. But (as with any fan) because he has been there for years and he was a Legend at the club as a player, most fans (will) want to believe that he is some future savour. He might be, but we have no evidence so far. But don't expect him to be a special character as an assistant manager.

[Boycey]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/jose-mourinho-to-manchester-united-ex-chelsea-manager-six-page-love-letter-i-can-change-a6829971.html

Mourinho making his play?? Seems a fairly specific story to be bullshit??

[rodney trotter]

David Gill, the former Manchester United chief executive who remains a director at the club, has admitted the current season under Louis van Gaal is one of underachievement given the manager's £250m-plus investment in the squad.

United lost 1-0 to Southampton on Saturday at Old Trafford in what was the latest dismal performance from Van Gaal's team. It has again raised questions regarding the Dutchman's position.

While Gill would not be drawn on Van Gaal's long-term future, he did admit United's fifth place is not good enough. "Clearly we all hope the results will be better – everyone's disappointed, I feel as much as non-executive director as a fan," Gill told the BBC. "[This is] undoubtedly a season of underachievement. I think everyone would agree with that given the investment that was made. Everyone there is working extremely hard to turn that round. It's not easy."

Asked about the pedestrian style of play, Gill said: "I don't want to talk about quality [of football] – but I'm not going to sit here and say it's that attractive. For me, what we did in the past was great – you've got to have the players to do that. The Ryan Giggs running down the wing, [David] Beckham etc, [Paul] Scholes. Manchester United going back to the 50s with Matt Busby, when I started supporting them, with George Best, they played in a certain way. I'm sure we want to do that. We want attacking football I'm sure that will be a key part going forward."

Since becoming manager in summer 2014 Van Gaal has brought in 13 major new players at a cost of more than £250m. When contacted by the Guardian, United would not be drawn regarding Van Gaal's future.

(Guardian)

[Denn Forever]

But what if Giggs is no better?  Would that tarnish his reputation forever?

[Bensars]

Just seen this on Twitter

Ruud Gullit co-commentating on Arsenal vs Chelsea game for Bein Sports just said that he's heard that Van Gaal will resign in next 24 hours

[Maroon Manc]

Appalling yesterday, didn't even come close to creating a chance. He lost me after the Bournemouth game and ever since then the results have been woeful. At least earlier on in the season we were still creating chances and keeping clean sheets and had 27 points from our first 13 games but we've only 10 points from our last 10 games, thats easily the worst run I can remember. We should be in the title race, even City & Arsenal are averaging less than 2 points per game.

He should be sacked but but really haven't a clue what will happen, won't be surprised if they waited until we couldn't qualify for the CL although another home performance like that in the next few home and he'd have to go as the majority of match going fans have turned on him. Then there's the Cup match against Derby on Friday night, LVG will get plenty of abuse if we were to go out given we'll have 6,000 at it.

[laoislad]

Just seen this on Twitter

Ruud Gullit co-commentating on Arsenal vs Chelsea game for Bein Sports just said that he's heard that Van Gaal will resign in next 24 hours

Ah no please stay LVG....

[pullhard]

Just seen this on Twitter

Ruud Gullit co-commentating on Arsenal vs Chelsea game for Bein Sports just said that he's heard that Van Gaal will resign in next 24 hours

Ah no please stay LVG....

Moyes in

[Cunny Funt]

Just seen this on Twitter

Ruud Gullit co-commentating on Arsenal vs Chelsea game for Bein Sports just said that he's heard that Van Gaal will resign in next 24 hours

When he wanted to resign some weeks ago he wasn't allowed. It now sounds like no one will stand in his way this time.

[From the Bunker]

Just seen this on Twitter

Ruud Gullit co-commentating on Arsenal vs Chelsea game for Bein Sports just said that he's heard that Van Gaal will resign in next 24 hours

When he wanted to resign some weeks ago he wasn't allowed. It now sounds like no one will stand in his way this time.

I'd say he was hoping to be sacked before the fans turned against him. Getting sacked is worth a lot of money. He has 16 months left on his contract and that is worth a lot of money. On the other hand he'd leave with nothing if he resigned. I'd say Derby on Friday will have a big bearing!

[Boycey]

Gullitt is about as much in the know as I am... But ultimately LVG is a dead man walking it seems to be a matter of when and how rather than if he's gonna go. The big problem is what happens then? Pep seems to be promised to another, there is significant opposition to Jose within the hierarchy at OT so do they take another huge punt on Giggs?? If not who else?

[From the Bunker]

Gullitt is about as much in the know as I am... But ultimately LVG is a dead man walking it seems to be a matter of when and how rather than if he's gonna go. The big problem is what happens then? Pep seems to be promised to another, there is significant opposition to Jose within the hierarchy at OT so do they take another huge punt on Giggs?? If not who else?

Why Giggs? What's the attraction to him as a manager? I mean what's the source of optimism? In the end I suppose the best solution is to look inwards. As nobody knows the club better than former players. But who does that anymore? 

[rodney trotter]

Gullitt is about as much in the know as I am... But ultimately LVG is a dead man walking it seems to be a matter of when and how rather than if he's gonna go. The big problem is what happens then? Pep seems to be promised to another, there is significant opposition to Jose within the hierarchy at OT so do they take another huge punt on Giggs?? If not who else?

Why Giggs? What's the attraction to him as a manager? I mean what's the source of optimism? In the end I suppose the best solution is to look inwards. As nobody knows the club better than former players. But who does that anymore?

Real Madrid, since Zidane is now the manager.