McKenna Cup 2024

Started by never kickt a ball, December 30, 2006, 02:22:48 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

rrhf

Cavan still can't handle Tyrone at senior level and continue to  bottle it at the sight of the red hands. Remains to be seen if this hoodoo can't be overcome. Some times the pressure gets to the guys.

haranguerer

Quote from: rrhf on February 20, 2014, 10:23:04 PM
Cavan still can't handle Tyrone at senior level and continue to  bottle it at the sight of the red hands. Remains to be seen if this hoodoo can't be overcome. Some times the pressure gets to the guys.

'Still'??!  ;D

Cavan were winning AIs before Tyrone knew they were on!

CD

Quote from: haranguerer on February 21, 2014, 06:34:52 AM
Quote from: rrhf on February 20, 2014, 10:23:04 PM
Cavan still can't handle Tyrone at senior level and continue to  bottle it at the sight of the red hands. Remains to be seen if this hoodoo can't be overcome. Some times the pressure gets to the guys.

'Still'??!  ;D

Cavan were winning AIs before Tyrone knew they were on!
Don't think there's a case for saying Cavan bottled it in fairness. They were just not as good as their opponents, who lets face it, played in second gear with a second string team. Cavan knew they needed a cushion to defend against that wind and the goal knocked the stuffing out of them. There's a huge gulf between division 1 and 3 and it was clear fairly early on. From a Cavan perspective - Mackey and Keating were first class. Two really good players there.
Who's a bit of a moaning Michael tonight!

God14

Quote from: CD on February 21, 2014, 09:32:09 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on February 21, 2014, 06:34:52 AM
Quote from: rrhf on February 20, 2014, 10:23:04 PM
Cavan still can't handle Tyrone at senior level and continue to  bottle it at the sight of the red hands. Remains to be seen if this hoodoo can't be overcome. Some times the pressure gets to the guys.

'Still'??!  ;D

Cavan were winning AIs before Tyrone knew they were on!
Don't think there's a case for saying Cavan bottled it in fairness. They were just not as good as their opponents, who lets face it, played in second gear with a second string team. Cavan knew they needed a cushion to defend against that wind and the goal knocked the stuffing out of them. There's a huge gulf between division 1 and 3 and it was clear fairly early on. From a Cavan perspective - Mackey and Keating were first class. Two really good players there.

I don't think it was that obvious early on. For the first half hour, the game had shades of Tyrone u21 v Cavan u21s of the previous few years. Where Cavan lead from the front, defended robustly & kept the scoreboard ticking. What particularly reminded me of the u21 encounters was the refereeing. Referee McNally doing a fine impersonation of Barry Cassidy.
The Tyrone goal really seemed to knock Cavan confidence - changed the script -  and once they were reduced to 14 men the game ended as a contest.

Cavan are definitely on the up however & will continue to improve. Some good players still to come in. Hyland is doing a fine job there. Handled the Sean Johnson affair well. If they were to have everyone fit, their first 15 would be strong. Need to get out of Division 3 fast though, that must be hindering development.

Fuzzman

Were any of ye at this match?
How did Sean & Colm play? Did Colm stay on the 40?


God14

Colm started really well, picked up an injury & looked to be in considerable pain at HT. Havnt heard anything on the injury. We'll maybe learn more over the weekend as he is due to play for Ulster in the Railway cup

mylestheslasher

Quote from: rrhf on February 20, 2014, 10:23:04 PM
Cavan still can't handle Tyrone at senior level and continue to  bottle it at the sight of the red hands. Remains to be seen if this hoodoo can't be overcome. Some times the pressure gets to the guys.

When did we last play you at senior level, along way back I'd say.

blewuporstuffed

I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either

BennyHarp

Quote from: blewuporstuffed on February 21, 2014, 12:07:20 PM
2005? went to a replay

Where Tyrone won the replay by 21 points if memory serves me correctly.
That was never a square ball!!

sensethetone

Quote from: BennyHarp on February 21, 2014, 12:09:39 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on February 21, 2014, 12:07:20 PM
2005? went to a replay

Where Tyrone won the replay by 21 points if memory serves me correctly.
beat cavan n mc keenna cup too.

mylestheslasher

So Cavan have a mental block over a team they last played competitively in 2005 (I dont include McKenna cup in competitive competition). I don't think so. It will not be too long before we beat Tyrone in my opinion.

God14

I think rrhf got the reaction he was looking for.

Aaron Boone

And another trophy for Mickey Harte. The man is a legend.

BennyHarp

Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 21, 2014, 12:35:30 PM
So Cavan have a mental block over a team they last played competitively in 2005 (I dont include McKenna cup in competitive competition). I don't think so. It will not be too long before we beat Tyrone in my opinion.

Cavan don't have a mental block over Tyrone. Tyrone just have a better panel of players at the minute and have consistently been playing the top teams in Div 1. Cavan are getting there but I firmly believe that for a progressing team it is vital to get into Div 1 in the league and become accustomed to playing at the pace that level brings. Winning U21 titles is ok but it doesn't help to then go and play in Div3 and get used to life at that level. Cavan have some superb players and the full forward line on Wednesday is as good as anyone's but they need to be playing at the highest level on a consistent basis to develop into a top class team. I hope they do as I've always had a bit of a soft spot for them.
That was never a square ball!!

CD

Quote from: BennyHarp on February 21, 2014, 01:17:55 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on February 21, 2014, 12:35:30 PM
So Cavan have a mental block over a team they last played competitively in 2005 (I dont include McKenna cup in competitive competition). I don't think so. It will not be too long before we beat Tyrone in my opinion.

Cavan don't have a mental block over Tyrone. Tyrone just have a better panel of players at the minute and have consistently been playing the top teams in Div 1. Cavan are getting there but I firmly believe that for a progressing team it is vital to get into Div 1 in the league and become accustomed to playing at the pace that level brings. Winning U21 titles is ok but it doesn't help to then go and play in Div3 and get used to life at that level. Cavan have some superb players and the full forward line on Wednesday is as good as anyone's but they need to be playing at the highest level on a consistent basis to develop into a top class team. I hope they do as I've always had a bit of a soft spot for them.

All spot on Benny. Still a gulf between the two panels though and two out of the three full forwards on Wednesday are excellent players.
Who's a bit of a moaning Michael tonight!