Messages

Messi was UNPLAYABLE after England scored

He was like a corner forward 'on it' screaming "give me the effin ball"

He's 39. Absolutely and utterly INCREDIBLE

It was Armaghs B team last year. No shame in it

Acknowledging the difference in playing standards (club and county), where do you start after that today?

Tactically: slow and ponderous allowing them to get back, set up and then force a turnover on the half.

Athletically: Obviously big gulf, but we looked slow and heavy legged. Even some of the more direct/speedier players looked a bit ragged.

Kickouts: At county level all we can work us an overload? That's a shambles. Other way we couldn't even get near theirs.

Derry were poor by their own abilities today, I don't think they gave away a scorable free all game and they easily could have had 3 extra goals in the first half alone. We had some individual bright sparks but it was hard to do that over and over again.

Can never fault lads togging out for their county, but there's failures at some level there because compared to last years run out against Armagh this is a backwards step

I was at the game, quite a dead atmosphere in the ground and very little Antrim support. Derry pressed Antrims kickout very hard particularly in the 1st half. Only for missing  serious chances and great goalkeeping it could have been a nasty scoreline. McCabe and Burns and possibly McAleer performed well.
Armagh beat Antrim by 11 points last year and Derry beat Antrim by 13 today, In reality it's just the same, albeit there was maybe a bit more blood and thunder about it last yr which came from the Corrigan or nowhere thing, but from memory Armagh rested a lot of players.
Its a similar result in the history books. Tailteann is our level not this.

It was Armaghs B team last year

No shame in it....we are Div 4

Leitrim don't expect to beat Mayo,so why should we expect to beat Derry?

Last victory v them in the 50s?

Wish we had a go. We kicked 4 l

Score that sitter late on and theres 7 between the sides.   They counter immediately, go up and knock over a 2 pointer and its out to 12. Thats the margins.

Antrim in similar place to last year but with some more bite. Never looked like winning after that terrible 1st goal went in, undid a lot of good work.

Paddy McBride has some neck on him being a pundit today after ditching them. 

Wish we had a go. We kicked 4 long balls in in the last ten minutes, won three of them

Should've been doing it all game

We're off it physically and the game was flat, as every Ulster Championship game we play in is, at least from the day we beat Fermanagh at Brewster...2011 or something maybe

Physically and football wise not at it. Probably won't change till or when G football is our number 1 sport (so potentially never unfortunately)

Armagh shooting horrific

and their decision making

But Spindles is f**king them over

Spindley wee .....

Might be predominantly but I would say a good few antrim ones in it too.

Mostly Bredagh who won Down Minors this year and blew the Ulster Minor semi after being well up v Clontibret

No score yet 24 mins into the 2nd half. Hopefully we get 1

Derry operating at a different pace.

Tyrone GAA chairman wants Casement Park project scaled back and money shared around Ulster.

Tyrone chairman Martin Sludden has called on Ulster GAA to scale back its redevelopment plans for Casement Park and build a more modest stadium appropriate to the needs of the GAA in Antrim.

Rather than continue to spend hundreds of millions on the stalled Belfast project, he wants to see investment shared with the other eight counties of Ulster, where stadiums have fallen into disrepair.

"Having spent well in excess of £20m already with nothing to show for it, Ulster GAA appear willing to spend hundreds of millions on a stadium that's neither wanted nor needed," said Sludden.

Tyrone GAA chairmain Martin Sludden
Tyrone GAA chairmain Martin Sludden
"The stadiums across the province need significant capital investment, some having fallen into a significant state of disrepair, including Healy Park and I would appeal to the GAA at national and provincial level to ensure that the other eight counties in Ulster get their fair share of all of the funding sources available to refurbish their grounds.

"We should not direct all of the funding to one single project to the detriment of all the other counties."

Is that the fella cost Louth a Leinster title in 2010?

Slaughtneil should be well clear here, not playing great, but are clocking up the wides.

Should be WELL clear. Nervously snatching at gimmes time and again. Could be 9 or 10 up

Also re the Soccer thing....i stopped playing aged 16 to play GAA but in hindsight wish I hadn't.  Soccer players get a game every single Saturday from August to May, train twice a week and a game at the weekend

In GAA we play 1 game to about 10 or so trainings. Appreciate there's a few times where we shoehorn in 3 games in a week at Senior League but most times we're standing frowning in serious huddles on a training pitch in the rain, listening to some lad spouting shite about a drink ban for a game weeks away.

Something to look at maybe re having much more underage blitzes and games to keep kids interested.

It's in the position it's been in since the early 60's.. are you blaming all the county boards since the 50's on the poor standards?

We had Casement and were still poor, we had St Mary's winning Hogan cup, still poor..

Club facilities mean nothing, we've probably the worst facilities and have won the lot, so stop with that, be great to have better facilities but it's not a reason.

As I said, there is a lack of commitment from players to get up to a standard, what players are doing from other counties from 14 upwards is down to them. Best coaches in the world can only work with what they have available.. what's the plan then?

The game at Woodlands probably played there as no other club had pitches available, unless you can tell me different.

Playing it out of Belfast would have brought complaints..

There are avenues available to you to pursue this, and I mean that in the best way, frustration is real.

success at county level is not there, that's why kids throw their lot into the club! Better chance of success, mindset at county level is missing. Btw, they get the same as players in most counties too, so it's not a lack of amenities/gyms/nutrition/games

I've no answer nor am I committed to create a better experience, so knocking one's that do put their hand up isn't for me

Totally agree. But that Galls team was a freak group,,,,breeding and talent all coming together at the 1 time. Hammered out the gate in an U16 final to winning it by a point the year after.....kicking on then to about 6 u21 titles in a row, Seniors and 7s. Players who were well brought through by great men but players who themselves were obsessed with and naturally good at football, no one drank really or went to the States or Oz.

There's zero talk about football here, all just blabbering and shite talk about who's gonna win the battle of the blind and then get beat in Ulster. There's f all improvement, is anyone excited about 1 young player coming through? Is there 1 name we're all excited about the past 10 years?

I do absolutely f all about it, so not for me to chirp I suppose. I just know through family and in-laws that other Counties care so much about their place and their team....it's LITERALLY their identity. They won't hear a bad word said about a squeaky gate in their County, never mind their football team

We simply don't have that mindset and are unlikely to unless a freak Antrim County team comes out of nowhere and causes all kids to start supporting and wanting to play when they grow up

[The second one being that in these islands, the PL now dwarfs over international football in terms of importance, achievement and awareness.]

You're kind of ignoring a group of cultural changes there.

The first one being that any man who plays 5+ PL seasons should have little or no need for media work, especially not stuff that involves flights to Dublin.

The second one being that in these islands, the PL now dwarfs over international football in terms of importance, achievement and awareness.

The decision taken by Houghton, Aldridge, Cascarino et al, was made when the opposite was true. Back then, being recognised as an international standard player was the pathway to bigger clubs and bigger wages. Nowadays it matters not a bit.

So whilst young English men might still wish to feel the pride of playing for their country, there really isn't much incentive in playing for someone's elses. Hence one cap v Andorra, even if that's all he ever gets, it's still a dream come true.

It's nearly amazing now the quality disconnect between club football, especially in Europe's top 4/5 leagues, and international football. If the current Irish team were a PL side, would we be in the relegation places? I'd say so.

That said with all the money in club football in the select few top leagues, no club competition comes near the World Cup for prestige, drama, mystique. They've tried the club World Cup and it was a damp squib. Of course national teams won't come near a top club with money to burn (Grealish cost City £100m and was to all extents and purposes a flop). I don't think club can ever match it for tribalism either no matter how much a derby game gets hyped up. World Cup still the greatest show on earth (for soccer anyways).

Nothing comes close

Reason why i dont really support a club team.....follow 1 but means nothing compared to Ireland

Rick Astley 'singing' on the Late Late

Anything like that viable on up the county?

Randalstown, Ballymena, Ballycastle and Carnlough take a lot of clubs into their catchment.

Two Antrim teams, covering the majority of clubs, competing in A level colleges would be a great grounding for upcoming talent in the county.

Belfast a good start regardless.

Great idea

Mulgrew reminded me of Sean Cavanagh and Cormac at underage at times during that game.

Colton was very good.

The highest possible compliment. I agree re the Cavanagh comparison driving through. Cavanagh to my mind was THEE most important Tyrone player back then.....without him driving his team forward they wouldn't have won any of the All Ireland's in the noughties (in my opinion) whilst they could and did when a Muggsy or O Neill and even P Canavan wasn't there.

Off on a tangent there but I saw similarities with Cavanagh too.....driving through the middle at pace, though his feet appear to be better, silkier. Anyway he's no age so we'll just have to wait and see.

What a game though, winner unknown to the last second and every ball contested

I thought Jarlath's speech today was grand btw. Has to acknowledge both teams, especially after a final as tight as that. People may disagree with him plenty, but as an orator there haven't been many like him in the Association's history.

Agreed, some of the speeches have been fantastic. Mentioning the counties and showing genuine knowledge etc.

After a few though people started thinking he was enjoying it too much, it was the Jarleth Show, he'd eat himself etc

But there hasn't been an Orator like him, that's fair.