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Why the awful low productivity in the 6?
Why does a Monaghan worker produce a lot more than an Arnagh or Tyrone one?
Or is it down to exceptionally high productivity in the East and South East?

An individual worker in Intel in Kildare or Eli Lilly in Kinsale would have a massively greater productivity than a bin man in Carrickfergus

It's the value of the work that they produce is what counts

The more highly skilled and better educated workforce you have the higher the productivity

"productivity is a measure of economic performance that compares the amount of output with the amount of labor used to produce that output."

What's the thoughts on Shelfflin in Galway? Heard a few fans chatting on the way out and they weren't overly impressed with his so far.

I think the challenge is for the medium term. To build a team for the post Limerick era. It's the same in Kilkenny. Neither team is the finished article. There has to be progress every year.

The post Limerick era could be in 3/4 years time

Galway haven't progressed under Shefflin

Even more inconsistent than they were before he arrived

Defensive structure very poor

And the Achilles heel of goalkeeping still not resolved

Let's see how far they get this year.
He is a big improvement on his predecessor. In 2021 they lost to Waterford in the qualifiers.
He has been good at introducing new players. Kilkenny were just as inconsistent yesterday and just as ropey in defence.
And the post Limerick era could start next month.

If you have a look at the age profile of Limerick

That era won't finishing any time soon

Compare and contrast with the ages of the key Galway men who are in their 30's

One thing you can never accuse Kilkenny of is inconsistency

Dublin couldn't do it. Kerry couldn't do it. Why would Limerick be different?

Did Dublin not do 6 in a row ?

"That era won't finishing any time soon"

The core engine of the Limerick team was identified in a Tony Forrestal tournament for under 14s in 2010. 9 of them were on the All Ireland team  in 2018. It all depends how long they stay ahead of the pack. They have a lot of miles on the tachometer.

https://www.youtube.com/live/-SWCRs3sHxc?feature=share

"Dublin couldn't do it"

But Dublin did win a 6 in a row

Did they not ?

You said they could win 10 in a row. That is impossible.
I would be surprised if Limerick won 6 in a row. Because of 2019.
This year would be the 6 in a row  if they hadn't lost in 2019 .
What no team can do is replace a generational team and continue the winning.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/06/08/read-all-about-it-at-last-the-tuam-stars-who-lit-up-football-in-the-1950s/
"I had only fleeting memories of some of those players playing on bad Kerry teams being given the runaround by Larry Tompkins."

Id take the opinions of a lad that didn't know that Dublin had won 6 in a row with a large dollop of salt

Given the age profile of that Limerick team most of who are only coming into their prime plus the addition of the likes of English and Coughlin

There's a few more All Irelands in them before Galway start their long heralded dominance

Wouldn't there also be additional increased costs for the south, not covered in the subvention?  Like policing, education, particularly in loyalist areas?

"so even allowing for an increase in a future Irish defence budget of about €200 million this would still represent a saving of more than £900 million per annum."

The subvention has always been based on dodgy accounts and guesses. Ridiculous that the government doesn't actually seem to know the real figure. Great article. I wonder if it factors in the tax revenues from UK wide business like Tesco's etc whose profits from NI will be declared though across the water.

It does


"The subvention underestimates tax revenues for Northern Ireland, as corporation tax, capital gains and VAT are paid by companies from their head-office address regardless of where that profit was earned, exaggerating the tax earned in London. Previous studies have estimated that this underestimation of tax revenue actually earned in Northern Ireland adds £500 million to the size of subvention."

What's the thoughts on Shelfflin in Galway? Heard a few fans chatting on the way out and they weren't overly impressed with his so far.

I think the challenge is for the medium term. To build a team for the post Limerick era. It's the same in Kilkenny. Neither team is the finished article. There has to be progress every year.

The post Limerick era could be in 3/4 years time

Galway haven't progressed under Shefflin

Even more inconsistent than they were before he arrived

Defensive structure very poor

And the Achilles heel of goalkeeping still not resolved

Let's see how far they get this year.
He is a big improvement on his predecessor. In 2021 they lost to Waterford in the qualifiers.
He has been good at introducing new players. Kilkenny were just as inconsistent yesterday and just as ropey in defence.
And the post Limerick era could start next month.

If you have a look at the age profile of Limerick

That era won't finishing any time soon

Compare and contrast with the ages of the key Galway men who are in their 30's

One thing you can never accuse Kilkenny of is inconsistency

Dublin couldn't do it. Kerry couldn't do it. Why would Limerick be different?

Did Dublin not do 6 in a row ?

"That era won't finishing any time soon"

The core engine of the Limerick team was identified in a Tony Forrestal tournament for under 14s in 2010. 9 of them were on the All Ireland team  in 2018. It all depends how long they stay ahead of the pack. They have a lot of miles on the tachometer.

https://www.youtube.com/live/-SWCRs3sHxc?feature=share

"Dublin couldn't do it"

But Dublin did win a 6 in a row

Did they not ?

What's the thoughts on Shelfflin in Galway? Heard a few fans chatting on the way out and they weren't overly impressed with his so far.

I think the challenge is for the medium term. To build a team for the post Limerick era. It's the same in Kilkenny. Neither team is the finished article. There has to be progress every year.

The post Limerick era could be in 3/4 years time

Galway haven't progressed under Shefflin

Even more inconsistent than they were before he arrived

Defensive structure very poor

And the Achilles heel of goalkeeping still not resolved

Let's see how far they get this year.
He is a big improvement on his predecessor. In 2021 they lost to Waterford in the qualifiers.
He has been good at introducing new players. Kilkenny were just as inconsistent yesterday and just as ropey in defence.
And the post Limerick era could start next month.

If you have a look at the age profile of Limerick

That era won't finishing any time soon

Compare and contrast with the ages of the key Galway men who are in their 30's

One thing you can never accuse Kilkenny of is inconsistency

Dublin couldn't do it. Kerry couldn't do it. Why would Limerick be different?

Did Dublin not do 6 in a row ?

That's an excellent piece. Where was this from? Going on the assumptions that the figures are correct, this is the sort of thing that should be pushed more in the media by nationalists. Too often there are half truths and misinformation out there that don't get challenged.

Professor Doyle's article is based on peer-reviewed research published in the special issue of ISIA on ARINS: Analysing and Researching Ireland, North and South.

What's the thoughts on Shelfflin in Galway? Heard a few fans chatting on the way out and they weren't overly impressed with his so far.

I think the challenge is for the medium term. To build a team for the post Limerick era. It's the same in Kilkenny. Neither team is the finished article. There has to be progress every year.

The post Limerick era could be in 3/4 years time

Galway haven't progressed under Shefflin

Even more inconsistent than they were before he arrived

Defensive structure very poor

And the Achilles heel of goalkeeping still not resolved

Let's see how far they get this year.
He is a big improvement on his predecessor. In 2021 they lost to Waterford in the qualifiers.
He has been good at introducing new players. Kilkenny were just as inconsistent yesterday and just as ropey in defence.
And the post Limerick era could start next month.

If you have a look at the age profile of Limerick

That era won't finishing any time soon

Compare and contrast with the ages of the key Galway men who are in their 30's

One thing you can never accuse Kilkenny of is inconsistency

Another excellent idea from Offaly

Every player has the opportunity to work with Offaly Coaches

https://twitter.com/offaly_gaa/status/1668225281700634626?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg

[£3.5 billion]

The UK government subvention to Northern Ireland, generally estimated at £10 billion (€11.6 billion), has raised doubts about the viability of a united Ireland based on the capacity of the Republic to absorb a subsidy of this size. Analysing the basis by which the subvention is calculated demonstrates that it includes significant costs which would not be carried over to a united Ireland and other costs that would be part of post-referendum negotiations between the Irish and UK governments.


The subvention is the public-sector deficit for Northern Ireland, and it has three components: public expenditure in Northern Ireland, taxation raised in Northern Ireland and an allocation to Northern Ireland of the costs of central UK government expenditure. The most significant element of public expenditure is the cost of pensions, which adds £3.5 billion to the subvention, including both public occupational pensions that are not covered by a separate pension fund, and means-tested pensions.


In the event of referendums being passed to create a united Ireland, this will be one of the biggest issues to be negotiated between the Irish and British governments.

The UK pays pensions to people who have worked in the UK but now live elsewhere, including in Ireland. It would be consistent with current practice for the UK to pay pension liability that had been built up, based on individuals' tax and social insurance contributions or caring responsibilities, during Northern Ireland's membership of the UK. This would also be similar to the pension arrangements in the UK's withdrawal

Such an agreement would leave the Irish Government with responsibility for all pension liabilities built up from the date of the creation of the new Irish state. While the UK could renege on this commitment, it is a very unlikely outcome, and the most probable diplomatic agreement is one which sees the UK meeting such its pension liabilities.

UK national debt
The subvention also includes a £1.6 billion allocation to the UK national debt. This is a legal liability of the UK state, and a future united Ireland would have no legal responsibility for this debt. If an Irish government agreed to make some voluntary contribution to UK debt, as part of a larger deal, they would be entitled to claim a share of UK assets proportionate to Northern Ireland's size, offsetting the debt contribution. In practice, and following the precedent when the Irish Free State was created, it is more likely that a simple standstill agreement would be reached, where Ireland waives any claim to UK assets outside of Northern Ireland and in return takes on no debt.

The allocation of central UK defence expenditure adds £1.14 billion per annum to the subvention, including a per-capita contribution to the Trident nuclear weapons programme and the military costs in Iraq and Afghanistan. Almost none of this allocation relates to expenditure in Northern Ireland and would not transfer to a united Ireland. To put this figure in context, Ireland's current defence budget is €1 billion, so even allowing for an increase in a future Irish defence budget of about €200 million this would still represent a saving of more than £900 million per annum.

An additional £765 million per annum is allocated as Northern Ireland's contribution to 'outside UK expenditure' including the large UK Foreign Office. Again, little of this would automatically transfer to a united Ireland, reducing the subvention by at least £500 million.

The subvention underestimates tax revenues for Northern Ireland, as corporation tax, capital gains and VAT are paid by companies from their head-office address regardless of where that profit was earned, exaggerating the tax earned in London. Previous studies have estimated that this underestimation of tax revenue actually earned in Northern Ireland adds £500 million to the size of subvention.

The economic debate on unity needs to move on to the more important questions of the policy decisions necessary to support sustainable economic growth

A further lack of precision in the UK published accounts is the net impact of 'accounting adjustments' due to depreciation, which increases the subvention by £873 million. The accounts also include 'unidentified' UK central government expenditure of £450 million per annum. It is impossible from the published data to estimate how much of this expenditure would transfer to a united Ireland, but it will not be the full published amount.

Taking the latest UK published figure for the subvention of £9.4 billion, and excluding UK pension liabilities, debt repayments, 80 per cent of defence expenditure, 65 per cent of 'out of UK expenditure' and £500 million in underestimated tax, but erring on the side of caution, and not making any reduction for "accounting adjustments" or other "unidentified expenditure", leaves a remaining subvention figure of €2.8 billion.

Growth
A subvention of this size would require once-off economic growth and tax revenue growth in a future united Ireland of about 5 per cent to absorb this deficit without disruption. Existing economic models of an all-island economy predict a positive impact on economic growth within a range sufficient to cover this deficit. In the context of a united Ireland if "Northern Ireland's" economy improved so that it simply reflected average Irish economic performance, no subvention would be required.

A subvention of €2.8 billion does not present a significant barrier to Irish unity and the economic debate on unity needs to move on to the more important questions of the policy decisions necessary to support sustainable economic growth to maximise the benefits of a larger and integrated all-island economy and to support improved public services in health, welfare, education and infrastructure. These will be the real issues that will shape the costs and benefits of a united Ireland and they will be central in the future referenda debates. Compared with those decisions the subvention is irrelevant.

What's the thoughts on Shelfflin in Galway? Heard a few fans chatting on the way out and they weren't overly impressed with his so far.

I think the challenge is for the medium term. To build a team for the post Limerick era. It's the same in Kilkenny. Neither team is the finished article. There has to be progress every year.

The post Limerick era could be in 3/4 years time

Galway haven't progressed under Shefflin

Even more inconsistent than they were before he arrived

Defensive structure very poor

And the Achilles heel of goalkeeping still not resolved

24,483 low for today's Leinster final or the expected crowd?

Time to take Leinster finals out of a 3/4 empty Croke Park

Which stadium in Leinster, would O'Moore Park be big enough to host 25,000 crowd?

Nowlan holds 27,500
O'Moore Park 23,000
Tullamore I think now has a capacity of 20,000
Salthill used to have a capacity of 33,000
Probably 30k nowadays

If Kilkenny and Galway were to come up with a home and away agreement like a lot of the Munster counties used to have

It might solve it

24,483 low for today's Leinster final or the expected crowd?

Time to take Leinster finals out of a 3/4 empty Croke Park

Have we a Michael Duigan to take the chair?

It's one thing looking for a figurehead like Duignan but 1 person on his own won't affect change

Duignan brought in a whole cabinet of well qualified in their fields highly motivated people with him

The likes of Carina Carroll is equally as important as a Duignan even if she wouldn't be anywhere as high profile

Between coaching,development,top table,administration,social media and fundraising Offaly have close on 100 people involved

Obviously Billy's not gone yet but it's hard to see how he could be kept on for a third year.
Just saw where David Power stepped down as Tipp manager and I'd say we could do a lot worse than him if we were looking for a new manager.
In Tipp, his hands were always tied by the sheer dominance of hurling in the county. Even then he did a really fine job including that famous Munster title three years ago.

Power had lads with minor all irelands medals won in 2011,another set of minors beaten in the 2016 minor final,a team beaten by Tyrone in an u21 All Ireland and senior players beaten in 2 all ireland football semifinals by Mayo in 5 years to work with

Plus provincial winners in 2020

We don't have that level  of players plus Tipp would have a bigger pick of footballers than what we have

Even allowing for the fall off in Tipperary's fortunes due to retirements etc it would be a hard sell to entice him up from Clonmel given the state we are in at the minute