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[Population argument is the poorest.]

Up to the other 31 to put a Motion to Congress - Dublin to be made a Province and 4 Co Boards.
Dublin City pop 550k
Fingal pop 296k
Sth Dublin pop 218k
Dun Laoghaire Rathdown pop 218k.

Connacht for Comparison
Galway 218k
Mayowestros 134k(including Ballagh)
Sligo 65k
Rest of Ros 64k
Leitrim 32k.

Dublin senior football teams playing population is adult football leagues division 1-3 , take out clubs second teams too and then please calculate?

Population argument is the poorest.

Not quite sure what you mean by 'population.'
Are you referring to the numbers actively engaged in club football or the general population of the county.
Either way, I'm afraid the facts don't support your argument.
It's not the number of clubs that count but the number of players in such clubs.
As  far back as the early 90s, a report commissioned by Central Council found that 5 Dublin clubs had more juvenile players than any one of 5 named counties. With rural numbers steadily decreasing and their urban counterparts growing all the while, the imbalance is even worse now.
Sure many kids drop out but those who survive to senior level are the pick of those who have risen through the ranks. Players that show promise will be encouraged to stay on and those who don't make it drop out or are pushed and many will drift away from the club and from the GAA in general.
During this year's club championships. St Vincents with a total membership of 971, (website figures) played a small midlands club that had only half that number of people in the half parish it represented.
You will also find that some Dublin's mega clubs will have more resources at their disposal than some of the smaller counties. It isn't the number of players in a club that counts, it's the number the club has to to pick from.

If you are talking about the general population, I'd really like to see what your reasons for making that statement are. To me, there is no room for argument here but I'd love to hear from anyone who thinks otherwise.

So what's the problem? Dublin always had big numbers, why didn't someone bring this up in the 90s?

China and India also have big numbers playing football. An argument can swing either way.

Dublin will always will have big numbers and its something you wont get an apology for, its the best thing to happen in Dublin and great to see so many children playing our national game in our capital city, id say you would agree, only solution is grouping clubs and counties together.

A women in work from Kildare said she can get over the amount of kids at the Cul Camps down there in the Newbridge area etc. Kildare to be the next big team down the line, following by Meath, by pure demographics of the spread of urbanisation  to the those counties.

Sounds like a lot of the above should be belong under a GAA or Leinster council GAA thread, this is the Dublin hate thread for gods sake.

Dublin won this year's Leinster Senior U21 and Minor and are in the U17 Final.

Kerry

Munster minor football: Kerry 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017
Current Munster U-21 winners
Current Munster senior and national league winners.

Quick, someone set up a thread, they are winning too much, lets get them.

[What was so good about John O'Leary?]

What was so good about John O'Leary? I remember him being there forever but I don't recall any greatness.

He did win 5 All-Star awards.

Yeah exactly the same as Cluxton, also won 8 Leinsters, 2 all Irelands and 3 leagues, but that doesn't matter to people who hate all things Dublin and can never give credit. O Leary was one the best.

Dublin have had 4 championship keepers since 74, Cluxton, O Leary and Cullen and a bonus point for the odd one out?

Byrne?

Gold star.

Dublin went to the GAA with a watertight, well thought out plan. The GAA rightly backed it and the transformation in Dublin GAA has been tremendous. It's not perfect but the very real threat of GAA being a minority activity in the capital has been defeated, for now.

Dublin's dominance of Leinster is a big concern but has as much to do with the Kildare's, Meath's etc not getting their act together as Dublin being too strong. Westmeath and Carlow have made a fight of it with Dublin in recent years and thankfully it looks like Kildare are now responding to the challenge. Dublin aren't dominant at underage level though and won't always have as brilliant a manager as Jim Gavin over their senior team. His ability to manage the resources at his disposal is his brilliance in my book and it's not something most GAA coaches would be familiar or comfortable with. To my mind this is a brilliant Dublin team with a brilliant coach. What follows is up for debate. Let us see what happens.

If other counties are willing to learn and are driven to succeed they can reach the levels Dublin are at. Kerry are a special case but the likes of Mayo, Tyrone, Donegal at various times can match Dublin. Mayo are the best example in ways. They have tremendous self belief which carries them a long way. Many counties have the exact opposite but Mayo genuinely see themselves as Dublin's equals. Credit to them for that but you can see why they're able to compete.

Too much is made of teams ability levels by one off results by media and it seeps into peoples consciousness. Embrace the challenge posed by a great team and improve to meet it.

thank you, the above is correct.

Gas man.

We only recently had Jim Gavin attempting to influence what can be said on The Sunday Game and now we have a poster on here trying to influence whats written on these boards.

Seriously if you can't handle the truth then stick to reservoir dubs. After all they banish people from other counties on there.

Thank you, the above is ignorantly incorrect. Jim Gavin was right in what he did, he backed is main man when nobody else would and was witch hunted down my hidden figures lurking on social media, the country people working in the media, the Kerry propaganda employees and shamefully even one of our own, Good management by Jim Gavin, very good management. And that's the difference.

[What was so good about John O'Leary?]

What was so good about John O'Leary? I remember him being there forever but I don't recall any greatness.

He did win 5 All-Star awards.

Yeah exactly the same as Cluxton, also won 8 Leinsters, 2 all Irelands and 3 leagues, but that doesn't matter to people who hate all things Dublin and can never give credit. O Leary was one the best.

Dublin have had 4 championship keepers since 74, Cluxton, O Leary and Cullen and a bonus point for the odd one out?

A forum full of Ewan (Spewan) McKenna's

You may laugh, but be careful what you wish for, as sometime in the future you may have North Dublin vs. South Dublin competing in the last 4 or 2 every year.

Iv been through this argument before with ignorant posters who let their hate for all things Dublin rule reason and logic.

Please also stop sending the country folk to Dublin too and tell them to stop sending their kids to GAA clubs. Thanks.

Anyway as stated before 5 current players (with Alan Brogan) played senior for Dublin = natural ability = its in the blood in Dublin now.

So enjoy the next few years because 1. Nothing will be done by the GAA, 2. Dublin are always going to be there or there abouts like they always have been 3. This is the way the GAA is now, live with it or move to a different sport. Dublin are the big dog now and its not going to change.

Should be a couple of red cards in this one with Armagh playing.

Up to the other 31 to put a Motion to Congress - Dublin to be made a Province and 4 Co Boards.
Dublin City pop 550k
Fingal pop 296k
Sth Dublin pop 218k
Dun Laoghaire Rathdown pop 218k.

Connacht for Comparison
Galway 218k
Mayowestros 134k(including Ballagh)
Sligo 65k
Rest of Ros 64k
Leitrim 32k.

Dublin senior football teams playing population is adult football leagues division 1-3 , take out clubs second teams too and then please calculate?

Population argument is the poorest.

Good performance from Kildare. Dominated Midfield imo and looked decent, couple of things to work to get to next level over the next couple of years and well capable of it with their massive cash reserves.

Why is Feely out of the next game, injured or?

As for Dubs, greatest of all time and play the best football of all time, enjoy every second and lap it up it wont last forever.

Dublin play the best brand of football ever scene, Barcelona-esque beautifulness , elegance.

No team will ever come close to this , its the pinnacle of football.

But most Dubs don't realise there was football before 2011. The GAA was founded in 1884. I know you find that hard to believe.

Don't think that's true now mate. Most fans remember the baron years. An example is 96 to 2010, when Dublin were walloped up and down Croke park in the latter stage of the championship. Another is 84 to 94, relative success without the big one were the lost 4 all Ireland finals in that 10 year period.

Dublin play the best brand of football ever seen, Barcelona-esque beautifulness , elegance.

No team will ever come close to this , its the pinnacle of football.

He has a lack of respect when interviewing now and in the past to amateur players and managers, tries to get more out of them than they are willing, GAA players don't have to give interviews if they don't want to and don't want to discuss bullshit. He can also be a hypocrite i.e the cash he took of Parnell's and then did a Bunsen burner.

His nickname is not Woolly, its Scruff!

some ignorant fools on this site, makes it all the special winning all Irelands, enjoy watching the greatest naturally gifted football team of all time destroy teams, its joyful and should be embraced.

Id say most of the clowns on here arnt in clubs, sit on bar stool drinking pints with their friends during Dublin matches praying for them to be defeated, sweaty hands, jumping of their seat when the opposition scores, sad really, really really sad.

Croke Park will only become neutral when Dublin build a new stadium, as has been rumoured for a while now.  This hurling match could be played in Phoenix Park for all anyone cares.  Tipp will win either way.  I understand that if the rules say it should be a neutral venue, then so be it but surely common sense,  (yeah I know, common sense on the GAA is up there along with magic beans and earth being flat!!) should dictate a double header and  a big crowd in Thurles.  Maybe the Dubin players are happy gong down to Thurles for a double header, why not test yourself against the best in their back yard.  All of Leinster does it for the football most days.

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I agree mate, no problem with the Venue myself.

My problem is with clowns who start up stupid threads.

Ger Cunningham (the Dublin hurling manager for you all you Nordies) is from Cork , he's not a Dub, and he's not happy about it.

The highly paid Ger Cunningham is hardly going to disagree with his employers.

Why do you care Dinny about Dublin hurling and hurling in general, your obsessed with the Dubs, id be more worried about the amount of money paid to McGeeney during his tenure , when your own county players had to go out an collect funds and build their own gym in one of the most wealthiest counties in Ireland.

Please don't disrespect Ger, he won 3 all Irelands as a player, 4 all stars, he loves hurling. Im sorry, there is no respect on this site anymore. Same clowns who post here ,post Hoganstand and use to post on An fear Rua.