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#766
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Hurling Championship 2020
November 24, 2020, 11:18:00 PM
Quote from: Laois Rising on November 24, 2020, 10:48:42 PM
Had a quick look through plan and it's all fluff with no substance. A major flaw with any plan is where individual members are not designated to over see tasks. That is the first step to actually bringing about change. Name the individual(s) whose responsibility it is to implement the desired change and have them report back their progress on a regular basis to management/county board. Writing down in strategic plan that the responsibility for completing tasks is that of county board means nothing will be achieved as the onus lies with no one to achieve getting something done or implemented.

Any good organisation would divide work out accordingly. Set realistic targets, and give people responsibility for getting it done. If individuals fail to reach targets or get work done then clearly they shouldn't be in the roles they are in.

That works in a business setting

Much harder to name people and make them personally responsible when everyone is a volunteer and there on a year by year basis

I presume you raised this very point at your clubs meeting when they sent out people to canvass the views of members for inclusion in the report?

If you didn't

Don't worry,those strategic reviews are like buses

another one will be along shortly
#767
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Hurling Championship 2020
November 24, 2020, 08:02:37 PM
Quote from: G@@ on November 24, 2020, 07:44:48 PM
https://twitter.com/Offaly_GAA/status/1331297266368458757?s=20

Even the lads north of us are trying to get their house in order - do we have to wait here to be in Christy Ring Cup too to start a similar process?

If getting our house in order is the production of strategic plans which then are ignored and gather dust

We are well ahead of Offaly

The same was done here in 2017 lots of consultations and surveys with "stakeholders"

Here's the plan for 2018-2020

High on aspiration,low on concrete final product

https://laoisgaa.ie/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Laois-GAA-Strategic-and-Action-Plan-2018-2020.pdf
#768
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Hurling Championship 2020
November 24, 2020, 05:38:09 PM
Quote from: Helix. on November 24, 2020, 05:18:41 PM
Very disappointing news today but unfortunately was the most likely outcome with Eddie leaving. Niall Corcoran as well big loss in training set. Wouldn't surprise me if Dublin are ringing about their availability after today. Definitely improved first touch and self belief that players can compete. Hopefully that continues with next appointment.
Mick Dempsey I wonder would there be any appetite to get involved. Following years with Kilkenny would be another name and highly rated in Kilkenny with Cody.

As echoed by Ogie need to be putting priorities back in underage structures and trying to get underage teams to compete in Leinster. If we start relying and expecting an outsider person to develop and sustain progress we're going to go nowhere. At both codes. We keep looking for a messiah to turn water into wine.

The senior manager is at the end of the conveyor belt and has to make do with what comes off the line,which was started 15-20 years previously.

I don't care if your Cody but if the infrastructure isn't there at juvenile,your at nothing as Cork have and are learning the hard way.

Hopefully brennans departure might spur a root and Branch shake of hurling development and coaching within the county

I doubt it though
#769
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Hurling Championship 2020
November 24, 2020, 04:04:01 PM
Quote from: Laoisred on November 24, 2020, 03:14:20 PM
Incorrect, Eamonn Kelly managed Boherlahan to Tipp Junior title a few months after leaving Laois. Then went to Judes in Dublin.
Why not go for Sheflin or Herity. You'd never know. Arien Delaney was the front runner last time and no one even mentioned Brennan. Could be the same this time!



he was in charge of Boherlahans juniors as well after his own juniors

That's his level

Shefflin is gone to Bennett'sbridge for 2021,one phone call to brennan will set him straight as regards Laois.

One of our own would be the best option,because anyone we get from outside will be a journeyman on the circuit.
#770
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Hurling Championship 2020
November 24, 2020, 02:53:23 PM
Lads are off their heads if they think the likes of Shefflin or Herity would touch Laois with a shitty stick once everything comes out in the wash.

We are back to the likes of the Eamonn Kelly's who next job after he left Laois was coaching Kildangans third adult team.
#771
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Hurling Championship 2020
November 24, 2020, 12:37:26 PM
Statement out

Brennan and management team gone

One step Forward

5 back
#772
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2020
November 24, 2020, 11:53:47 AM
Quote from: High Fielder on November 24, 2020, 09:44:31 AM
No I was just drawing a comparison. I'd say some of the bigger clubs in Dublin have at least 1 GDA. I have long since been of the opinion that a Games Development Officer is needed for the Portlaoise area. It looks like we're determined to run this on a very thin budget without any room to manoeuvre. Zero innovation with little emphasis on development

The Strategic Plan recommended a GDA for Portlaoise Parish,Which HQ were favorably disposed towards funding

That was 2 years ago

One of many recommendations,many of them revenue neutral which weren't acted upon
#773
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2020
November 24, 2020, 08:20:20 AM
Quote from: High Fielder on November 24, 2020, 07:29:47 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on November 23, 2020, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on November 23, 2020, 10:32:00 PM
So just to be clear, it's money that LCB would have to match that isn't been drawn down?
Or is there other "free money" also?

It's money that they could draw down but haven't,they don't have to match it.

Jesus. Compete with Dublin? I don't think we could compete with Dublin clubs at that rate. It becomes more obvious with each passing day that we're wasting our time here. I wonder what CB delegate has the balls to stand up at Convention and say that this intercounty system is bolloxed. I see poor old Louth decided to burn some good money too. The innocence of it. Jesus turned water into wine and Mickey Harte turned a Division 3 team into All Ireland contenders

Where did I say compete with Dublin?
#774
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2020
November 23, 2020, 11:16:59 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on November 23, 2020, 10:32:00 PM
So just to be clear, it's money that LCB would have to match that isn't been drawn down?
Or is there other "free money" also?

It's money that they could draw down but haven't,they don't have to match it.
#775
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2020
November 23, 2020, 10:29:47 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on November 23, 2020, 10:20:16 PM
Just out of curiosity ClonadMad, is it that they are not drawing down the full allocation of funds?
Funds they'd have to match?
So basically are saving money but not doing so?

For example that there is funding there for a GDA. Croke Park would pay €18k as long as Laois pay the other €18k to pay their wages.
Is this the kind of situation you're describing?

Just one clear cut example and I could give 2 more stark examples

There's a budget ring fenced and in place for 4 GDA's  and a games manager since beginning of 2018.

Those positions have never been fully filled at any point in the last 3 years.
#776
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2020
November 23, 2020, 06:05:25 PM
Quote from: blueandwhite1 on November 23, 2020, 04:31:31 PM
Football in the future will be same as hurling is these days. The idea that a small county can make a breakthrough will disappear. Multiple tiers not just in terms of leagues but also standards and aspirations. And what care have the GAA ever given to the fate of hurling in Leitrim, Cavan, Monaghan or Mayo? (or Laois for that matter. Imagine what a €500k annual coaching investment would do to hurling in Laois, Westmeath, Carlow, Antrim etc. where there is no shortage of appetite but no resources).

Not Dublin's fault; they are so good it is an embarrassment to the GAA. A joy to watch but they have no competition. It's a bit like having the All-Blacks in the AIL, Liverpool in the league of Ireland or Celtic in the Scottish premiership. I would guess that Meath would put it up to Tipp, Cavan or Mayo and look what happened to them on Saturday.

Laois cant even spend the budget allocated to coaching in the county by croke park at the minute

Maybe if we started there first before we go looking for more funds 

#777
GAA Discussion / Re: GAA county shirts
November 23, 2020, 03:36:18 PM
Quote from: chrissears on November 23, 2020, 11:04:43 AM
Dear All
I am trying to buy football shirts for my two lads here in London, O'Neill's website say you cant have the shirt on their website but I can have the international one(whatever this is).
Does anyone know if there is a difference between shirt bought in Ireland and the international one?
Thank you

Get yourself a vpn,set your location to ireland and away you go.
#778
GAA Discussion / Re: Cork vs Tipperary PUC 22/11/20
November 22, 2020, 04:06:13 PM
Quote from: joemamas on November 22, 2020, 03:14:08 PM
Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on November 22, 2020, 03:10:30 PM
I woulnd't write them off against Mayo either. Tipperary have some sensational footballers.

Mayo will most likely struggle around the middle of the field, and at center back.
Overall Mayo have probably better footballers, but on the day that means little.
RTE will no doubt have a TIpperary lovefest for the next two weeks as their dream final for nostalgia would be Dublin V Tipperary.

Tipp win a provincial title after 85 years and the next 2 weeks will be a "Tipperary lovefest"

Bitter much?
#779
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2020
November 22, 2020, 09:31:56 AM
Splitting Dublin in two would only mean Dublin 1 plays Dublin 2 in every Leinster final
#780
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Hurling Championship 2020
November 20, 2020, 12:45:16 PM
Quote from: redsetanta on November 19, 2020, 11:27:25 AM
Lets hope it's all worked out and Eddie stay's on. Also, a greater effort put into Primary schools to get young lads playing hurling in the likes of Portlaoise, Mountmellick and Mountrath where there isn't enough being done. We need kids playing in these urban centres.

in fairness to Mountrath,they have invested hugely in the last few years with the likes of a ball wall,astro,walking track,floodlights,pitch etc completed

They also seem to have their act together at juvenile as well.

Fair play to them for turning out players for Trumera as well

the likes of Mountmellick and clonaslee in particular have let hurling die at juvenile level these past few years