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I totally understand why residents don't want this on their doorstep. From an Antrim GAA point of view I honestly feel they should have looked to another location. The traffic problems alone should have rendered casement a non-viable option.

The stadium has been there for over 60 years. It isn't really on to choose to live beside a stadium, a railway line or whatever and then campaign to have it closed down or crippled in its operation.

Yes , but  you can understand when that thing is going to be enlarged, built higher or whatever. Some of us. Might live next a supermarket, leisure centre or school , and if there were plans to increase them, build higher so it blocks light, erect bright floodlights etc, we'd be mighty pissed off

How did the Brits vote for this?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LoKe5SjcjhU

[but their businesses won't survive with all that passports entail]

Businesses have suffered enough. Many owners won't put up with this anymore. Grants/loans placated them for a while, but their businesses won't survive with all that passports entail.  Enforcing vaccine passports for someone wanting a cup of tea in a cafe isn't going to sort out the pandemic. It's up to politicians and government to do that, not business owners.

Are you able to quantify the financial impact of the passports or are you just making this up as per all your other posts?

Regardless of the the other arguments around the passports; there is zero evidence that businesses are struggling financially due to checking certs.

It takes time to process, extra staff, and the bigger the establishment/footfall, the bigger the inconvenience and hassle. Take concerts venues, nightclubs, sports events, and the extra effort all that will entail. Do you think all that is not going to put extra burden on businesses?

[The current reincarnation is most definitely a vast improvement on where we were sat in the 70s and 80s in the bad old days.]

All depends on what your starting point is?
The current reincarnation is most definitely a vast improvement on where we were sat in the 70s and 80s in the bad old days.
But then my da would tell be yarns about the b specials when he was growing up and the tans /RIC of his father's era.
Let's just say it's definitely better but if my own son came to me and said he wanted to join the PSNI there would definitely be an eyebrow raised.

You obviously didn't see the machine gun photo in Crossmaglen. As I said, a British agenda.

I did see that photo.
The difference now is that they're not going to use said machine gun.
What was your man thinking though....very poor judgement and badly advised.

It was what the image said. It's still bandit country, snipers lurking around every corner, we walk around armed to the teeth because of all these terrorists in South Armagh. These fenians, can't be trusted, IRA decommissioning my arse... or whatever spin you want to put on it.

Why not take images of police walking through the town, chatting to locals, helping older folk carry their shopping, buying a couple of coffees from the local shop, kicking ball with youngsters in the square, chatting with a couple of Cross club men at the pitch etc etc. Wouldn't that portray things in a better light? Isn't it great we can do this? Barriers are being broken down. Trust for the PSNI in South Armagh is growing etc etc......

Nope, remember... it's all about pushing the British agenda.

[Any more lockdowns will be 99% ignored especially with younger people.]

Cases growing in the 26 counties now, there are a lot more than most European countries with good vaccination coverage. People are getting a bit careless.

I think a total lockdown will be needed before Christmas.

That horse has bolted. Any more lockdowns will be 99% ignored especially with younger people.

Hard to ignore if everything is shut. After 3 of them, you do understand how they work 

Meh. Not much pointing making businesses suffer when people will still meet up in different settings. Anyway BoJo hopefully has cut the magic furlough money tree for good now so lockdowns won't be back.

So what is it, no lockdowns because no one will obey or because there is no public money for it?

Both. People will ignore it, and businesses will ignore the soon to be introduced passports.

Businesses won't. Principles are easily abandoned when you livelihood and the people you employ is under threat.

Businesses have suffered enough. Many owners won't put up with this anymore. Grants/loans placated them for a while, but their businesses won't survive with all that passports entail.  Enforcing vaccine passports for someone wanting a cup of tea in a cafe isn't going to sort out the pandemic. It's up to politicians and government to do that, not business owners.

[The current reincarnation is most definitely a vast improvement on where we were sat in the 70s and 80s in the bad old days.]

All depends on what your starting point is?
The current reincarnation is most definitely a vast improvement on where we were sat in the 70s and 80s in the bad old days.
But then my da would tell be yarns about the b specials when he was growing up and the tans /RIC of his father's era.
Let's just say it's definitely better but if my own son came to me and said he wanted to join the PSNI there would definitely be an eyebrow raised.

You obviously didn't see the machine gun photo in Crossmaglen. As I said, a British agenda.

[Any more lockdowns will be 99% ignored especially with younger people.]

Cases growing in the 26 counties now, there are a lot more than most European countries with good vaccination coverage. People are getting a bit careless.

I think a total lockdown will be needed before Christmas.

That horse has bolted. Any more lockdowns will be 99% ignored especially with younger people.

Hard to ignore if everything is shut. After 3 of them, you do understand how they work 

Meh. Not much pointing making businesses suffer when people will still meet up in different settings. Anyway BoJo hopefully has cut the magic furlough money tree for good now so lockdowns won't be back.

So what is it, no lockdowns because no one will obey or because there is no public money for it?

Both. People will ignore it, and businesses will ignore the soon to be introduced passports.

[It needs to change as an organisation and will but not yet]

I know 1 who has lived in the same house for the last 20 years in a pretty much 100% nationalist area, from Dublin originally and would have had republican great-grandparents from way back when. I wouldn't think of this person any differently to someone who I would have sat drinking whiskey until 4am on New Year's Eve on at least 2 occasions. Would have been a good friend but we moved on with our lives.

It needs to change as an organisation and will but not yet. Too many vested interests to keep it as it is. Cross border policing will increase over the next decade and that will see a sea-change in the mindset and outlook. Change is a coming folks

That's the nub of it, but from a nationalist POV do we encourage those within our community that way inclined to join in a hope to change the organisation from within or is the leadership of the organisation so ingrained in the RUC mindset that it's better to isolate the organisation until the changes needed are forced upon them from the political sphere ..

No matter what you call them, or dress them up in, the PSNI are still a British police force, pushing the British agenda in a British-ruled statelet. It doesn't matter how many Catholics join up, that's what they are, and that's what they will remain.

[There is still legacy issues, it won't go away in 20 years that's for sure.]

What is the alternative if we don't embrace the police service? If you don't break the law then why would you worry about the police? If you have nothing to hide why worry?

There is still legacy issues, it won't go away in 20 years that's for sure. Your kids will look at the police service as a career, something we didn't even think about.

So if you not involved with criminal activity then you are fine

It'll be gone in 20 days, when they vote for  it in Westminster .

Fergie must have taken the team talk today:

"Lads, it's Tottenham"

End of team talk.

What a block that was from the Dromore man!

The future of the Ulster championship is more important to the Casement project, than the Andytown residents.

It might actually br a good thing if legal proceedings do drag on for a year or so.  I expect that Proposal B bullshit (or a slightly tweaked B) to be passed next year.  What would then become of a 34,000 Casement if we had a meaningless Ulster championship?

United have been mismanaged for years at boardroom level, some of the salaries handed out are eye watering. Sancho getting £350k per week to sit on the bench and Martial on £250k. Sancho may well yet prove to be a world beater but there are countless other players being paid way above their performance level.   

To be honest if someone paid any of us that sort of money for shuffling papers around a  desk, driving a forklift or hammering in nails, we wouldn't complain

It's just the market and what clubs are prepared to pay. Yes it is obscene but that's modern day  soccer

[deliberately]

Yes it probably will escalate. And it's not difficult to know why. People have had enough, enough of  being lied to, draconian measures that make absolutely no sense, the population screwed over, economy and livelihoods deliberately ruined by inept, spineless politicians.

The state of this.

Machiavellian super villains and bumbling goons. All at the same time.

This the distilled essence of why you are a gobshite. You still haven't figured out what you're angry about. You're just angry.

It's pathetic. And hilarious. And scary, because there's loads of other stupid angry gobshites just like you out there.

No no, you're right. Politicians did/are doing a great job. Their rules make/made perfect sense. Nothing to see here.

More shouting.

Given you've been consistently pro-let it rip I presume you think Donald Trump, Ron De Santis, Boris Johnson, Jair Bolsonaro, Viktor Orban and Narendra Modi have all done great jobs?

And where have I said that?

[deliberately]

Yes it probably will escalate. And it's not difficult to know why. People have had enough, enough of  being lied to, draconian measures that make absolutely no sense, the population screwed over, economy and livelihoods deliberately ruined by inept, spineless politicians.

The state of this.

Machiavellian super villains and bumbling goons. All at the same time.

This the distilled essence of why you are a gobshite. You still haven't figured out what you're angry about. You're just angry.

It's pathetic. And hilarious. And scary, because there's loads of other stupid angry gobshites just like you out there.

No no, you're right. Politicians did/are doing a great job. Their rules make/made perfect sense. Nothing to see here.