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#76
Quote from: tippabu on June 26, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
Say it all comes to a walk over for mayo because kildare hold their ground and gaa don't back down, is there any precedent  in place as to what sanctions kildare could likely face? Expulsion from competition which wouldn't mean much?,  fine? Suspensions? Although through appeals I'd be shocked at anything sticking

Exclusion from 2019 league & championship.
#77
Quote from: Itchy on June 26, 2018, 12:32:20 PM
Youve got 400k people. Its up to Kildare GAA to get as much share of that as possible. Its your problem if you cant. Its simple.

222,504 (Census of Ireland, 2016)
#78
The quotes from Ned Quinn and Fergal McGill just show how detached from reality a lot of the GAA top brass are these days. Nobody in hq could have forseen this when they dictated that this game would be scheduled for Croke Park. They probably genuinely believe the spiel that "sure doesn't everyone love a big day out in Croke Park" and the old reliable "all players want to play in Croke Park". They have underestimated the depth of feeling that is there among many GAA members across the land at the direction the association is heading. You can't just make up the rules as you go along and I am delighted that it is Kildare who have pulled them up on this issue.
#79
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 26, 2018, 09:57:16 AM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 26, 2018, 09:54:27 AM
Chair of the CCCC claims there could be 'animosity' among fans if Kildare-Mayo game went ahead at Newbridge

Asked to elaborate on the safety issues, he said: "People are eager to see their own county playing championship and it was a possibility that people would turn up seeking to get admission to try and buy tickets outside the ground despite knowing that tickets weren't available.

"The risk would be that people would get involved with other spectators, that's the risk.

"I wouldn't call it crowd trouble but there could be animosity shown to people who had tickets and they couldn't get them, claiming they were regular supporters of Kildare."


https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/chair-of-the-cccc-claims-there-could-be-animosity-among-fans-if-kildaremayo-game-went-ahead-at-newbridge-37050377.html

This is extraordinary stuff from Ned Quinn.
Surprised at him tbh.

He must have visions of Mayo Supporters looting the Whitewater...

Ned fears they'll do an Emily Davison (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/may/26/emily-davison-suffragette-death-derby-1913) at the Derby if they can't get a ticket for the match down the road.
#80
Hurling Discussion / Re: Christy Ring Cup 2018
June 26, 2018, 01:07:20 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on June 26, 2018, 12:22:15 AM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 04:38:01 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on June 25, 2018, 02:52:37 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 10:36:33 AM
Quote from: kerrygerry on May 04, 2018, 10:00:21 PM
Having seen the betting for the Christy Ring cup London 3/1, am I being silly or is that not the bet of the season? They are the only team from div 2A in the competition and are surely huge favourites. They have only Kildare really to beat and they beat them by 7 in the National League and possibly Mayo who are minus Keith Higgins. I'm for lumping on but can anyone out there assure me London are in good nick, no injuries and training away like mad to bring her home to England?

Close but no cigar!

One of Kildare's star's on Saturday was James Burke. He was in a coma suffering meningitis in April. These are the kind of stories that get suppressed in Tiered competitions.

Is that Kildare up or do they have a playoff with Westmeath or Antrim ?

Edit, I see in the Antrim hurling thread that you are down to play them in the Armagh Athletic grounds.

I think that's a load of balls and deeply unfair and has been since its inception.

A 12 45pm throw-in too. Ridiculous.

Should be in Newbridge.

#Ardcloughornowhere
#81
The greatest display of Kildare defiance since Shackleton sailed to South Georgia.
#82
Quote from: Jayop on June 25, 2018, 08:19:24 PM
Would be fantastic publicity for Mayo if they could come out and say they back Kildare with this. It's very obvious what way the public opinion is on the issue and I think it would be great for them to show some solidarity.

Not that they have to but turning up in Croker for a walk over would be bad form.

I doubt anyone in Kildare would hold it against them. Mayo are sort of caught in the crossfire here. It's not their fault that Croke Park just assumed KCB would roll over and have their bellies tickled as they did when they gave up home advantage in 2012 in the qualifiers and 2013 in the league.
#83
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2018, 08:04:43 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 08:02:55 PM
Fair play to Cian O'Neill. The people of Kildare are fully behind them.
How many of ye went to Longford?

Plenty. Should be more in Newbridge on Saturday night!
#84
Fair play to Cian O'Neill. The people of Kildare are fully behind them.
#85
Quote from: Rossfan on June 25, 2018, 04:50:12 PM
If Kildare refuse to fulfil the fixture -will it mean all Kildare county teams suspended for 2919?

We'll be back to put a halt to Dublin's march for 909 Leinster titles in a row.
#86
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on June 25, 2018, 03:27:08 PM
Looks like it's going ahead in Croker - mails sent out to season ticket holders with 'Bring a Friend' option etc

There will be plenty of seats so. Kildare supporters won't travel. I think it's fair to say the GAA have lost the war in Kildare. Nearly 70k in CP last year, a bangwagon second only to Dublin in it's pomp, that's a lot of money to lose.

I wasn't joking earlier:

Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 09:36:15 AM
Handy one for Mayo. All the Kildare boys will be at the Derby.

;D
#87
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on June 25, 2018, 03:23:59 PM
Ffs the same whinging holes crying bloody murder over this would be giving out stink if they couldn't get a ticket. This is fairly standard in GAA and not comparable to what happens in a different sport in England. Either way Croke Park is a lot closer to Kildare than Mayo and the winner is going to be decided by the best team on the day (possibly aided by dodgy officiating knowing the way things go) not the patch of grass the games played on.

Yeah, it's not like Mayo supporters ever moaned about the choice of venue for a match before.
#88
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 02:27:37 PM
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on June 25, 2018, 02:12:15 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 02:06:07 PM
There's more season ticket holders than there is capacity in Newbridge. Mayo probably have the highest number of them outside of Dubs. Do you just plan on telling some of them to feck off, even though the conditions of their season ticket guarantee a ticket for sought-after championship matches?

If you were upset that this wasn't in Tullamore I could understand it more, but you clearly wanted it in Newbridge. That was never a runner.

I'll bite so.

The ground is certified for over 10,000. That ridiculous 6,000 restriction was lifted after remedial works (new crush barriers on the Barracks Terrace & improvements to the access points) about four years ago. There are not over 10,000 season ticket holders to be accommodated between both counties.

Ok so - that changes things. Nothing I found on Google mentioned a 10,000 capacity, only the 6,200 capacity. There were articles about planning for an expansion to around 15,000 from last year however.

2013:
https://www.herald.ie/sport/gaa/louth-next-up-for-lilies-in-qualifiers-29386411.html

2018:
http://www.mayonews.ie/sports/31701-mayo-fans-urged-to-buy-tickets-in-advance


Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 02:27:37 PM
How many matches has Newbridge hosted with over 6,200 people in attendance in the last seven years?

2013 against Tyrone and 2016 against Offaly. Mayo in the league in 2014 was a very big crowd. Dublin in two O'Byrne Cup games. All the Sarsfields/Moorefield county finals.
#89
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 02:06:07 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 02:01:36 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:56:30 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:51:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:47:19 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on June 25, 2018, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Syferus on June 25, 2018, 01:40:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on June 25, 2018, 01:39:12 PM
This is, to all intents and purposes, a home game for Mayo now.
The Kildare county board deserve an almighty kick up the hole.

They brought it on themselves by relying on Croke Park as a quasi-home ground for years and leaving Newbridge to rot. Very easy decision for HQ to make when Newbridge wasn't fit for purpose.

f**k up clown, no more a shit hole that Hyde Park.

The Hyde even in its current state can host 18,800, some 12,000 more than Newbridge can. We could accommodate season ticket holders very easily for this sort of game.

It's rotten you've lost home advantage but how long did you really think you could get away with such a tiny home ground for without this happening? Ye built a fancy CoE in Hawkfield in recent years so you made your own bed on this front.

Someday you are going fall off that horse and break your neck. And nobody will be there to pick you up. Btw that just makes Hyde park a 18800 capacity shit-hole, and with the amount of shit you spew it's still not big enough.

There's not much of a height to fall from when you're right.

It hosted a senior provincial final eight days ago. When's the last one Kildare hosted? You seem irrationally angry about this as if it's a total injustice - the reality is Kildare's planning and reliance on Croke Park as a home venue for years is at the root of this decision.

If the likes of Roscommon or Cavan or Monaghan with tiny populations can have grounds capable of hosting 20k crowds what excuse does one of the richest regions in Ireland have for having a glorified club ground as its home?

Kildare basically made the bet that their money was better spent elsewhere, well this is the downside of that decision.

f**k off! Even in England non-league sides get to play in their small grounds against the EPL giants, that is fairness, that is what sport is suppose to be. Can you not get your head around that?

There's more season ticket holders than there is capacity in Newbridge. Mayo probably have the highest number of them outside of Dubs. Do you just plan on telling some of them to feck off, even though the conditions of their season ticket guarantee a ticket for sought-after championship matches?

If you were upset that this wasn't in Tullamore I could understand it more, but you clearly wanted it in Newbridge. That was never a runner.

I'll bite so.

The ground is certified for over 10,000. That ridiculous 6,000 restriction was lifted after remedial works (new crush barriers on the Barracks Terrace & improvements to the access points) about four years ago. There are not over 10,000 season ticket holders to be accommodated between both counties.
#90
Quote from: highorlow on June 25, 2018, 01:59:24 PM
I think the Kildare lads will prefer Croke Park.

They won't. They have only beaten Offaly, Louth and Wexford in Croke Park since 2012. Shipped some miserable defeats there in recent years.