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GAA Discussion / Re: County Manager Merry go round
« on: July 16, 2019, 02:07:08 PM »
Sorry to see him go although the time is probably right for a change. It seemed to go stale this year after some decent progress since 2016.

Frustrating that we never seemed to be able to find much consistency and get over the line in tight matches during 2017-18; apart from the Newbridge or Nowhere saga. Div 2 league final in 2017, Armagh R4 qualifier after a decent Leinster campaign, Tyrone, Monaghan and Donegal Div 1 league games and the Galway and Monaghan games in the Super 8 last year.

I would be very surprised if his replacement is an outside appointment.

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We were outclassed and it's probably an accurate reflection of where we have been all year. Tyrone just an all round superior outfit.

Bit of a rebuilding job to be done now - try to persuade a few players to commit and blood a few more of the underage lads.

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If we go into this one on anything less than full tilt, it will be curtains, though I'm confident this Tír Eoghain team won't on Saturday evening.

Have Cill Dara ever beaten us in Newbridge (fluky last minute C Cav goals notwithstanding), in any competition?

Hammered you in 1996 in Newbridge 1-9 to 1-7.

Knuckles McCormack's finest hour.

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Lads while the result wasn't the best for us Mayo folk I had a great time in the sun in Newbridge last year and it was a great place to go for a match. The Kildare lads are sound as a pound and the pints were great before and after down the town. It was a great atmosphere at the game compared to an empty Croke Park with the seagulls flying about the place!! Really old school provincial grounds are perfect for qualifier games like this.
Any good recommendations?

I liked the Bru House and Johnson's ( The Liffey Arms). There is Coffeys which was grand and O'Rourkes which is across the road from the ground but the great thing about Newbridge is the ground is in the middle of the town so every pub is walking distance from the game!! I am sure Dinny and the boys will have some more recommendations.

Bru has closed and Swifts is up for sale again.

Coffeys, Johnsons or Neesons are all grand and within a stones throw of the ground.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ros v Galway Connacht Final 2019
« on: June 16, 2019, 07:31:01 PM »
In fairness that a great kildare side. Brian Lacey, Karl O'Dwyer, Brian Murphy and Cathal Sheridan were great additions along with greatest manager of all time. If Declan Browne had gone would have won more Leinsters and possibly an All Ireland.

Was that a possibility at one stage?

Would have been a nice backup for Padraig Graven.

Well done Roscommon.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Football qualifier route 2019
« on: June 12, 2019, 11:09:31 AM »
How many season ticket holders in Kildare will determine the venue?If they have more than  2 000 , then the match will be a double header in Newry, health and safety , Congress motion etc
Is kildare fans complaining about choice and size of venue not a bit ironic after Newbridge and Mayo last year.

Nope, quite the opposite.

Indeed.

Antrim perfectly entitled to their choice of venue.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Attendances
« on: June 09, 2019, 10:28:03 AM »
it's almost half the 58,723 that attended the last provincial semi-final meeting of Dublin and Kildare - which was also part of a double-header - in 2011.

"I think that reflects on Kildare really, they were really up there at the time, probably in Division 1 which is always a help. Last year, Kildare had a great run in getting to the Super 8s and so on," Bolger is quoted as saying in the Irish Daily Star.


Kildare finished higher in the league this year than in 2011!

Serious stretch by the Leinster Chairman. Like most counties Kildare have a smallish core support who'll be there through thick and thin and a sizeable fair weather support when things are looking up. Kildare were desperate for most of the mid 2000s and brought poor crowds - I'd say there was only a few thousand of us there in Croke Park for Leinster games between 04-06 (Wexford 04, Wicklow/Westmeath/Laois 05, Offaly 06). That was at a time when Leinster games were drawing massive crowds. We're no worse now than we were then.
You kinda are. Than 2011 anyway.
You coulda/shoulda beat both Dublin and Donegal that year, yet within 13 or 14 months of the Donegal defeat in extra time through an extraordinary and unlikely point by Cassidy, both Dublin and Donegal had collected Sam while Kildare had entered an extreme downward spiral for some reason. 

The standard in the rest of Leinster from 2013 to 2018 has been pretty abysmal. Coinciding with Dublin having a really good team and manager has got us to where we are. Thankfully Meath and Kildare are least seem to be on an upward trajectory now

It's 04-07 where I'm drawing the comparison. We had sunk back to post Tompkins/Fahy 1980s depths in those years. I think we only won four championship matches across those four years - Wicklow, Westmeath, Cavan and Roscommon. I think we went about five years without winning a minor championship match too in that period.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Attendances
« on: June 07, 2019, 05:18:54 PM »
it's almost half the 58,723 that attended the last provincial semi-final meeting of Dublin and Kildare - which was also part of a double-header - in 2011.

"I think that reflects on Kildare really, they were really up there at the time, probably in Division 1 which is always a help. Last year, Kildare had a great run in getting to the Super 8s and so on," Bolger is quoted as saying in the Irish Daily Star.


Kildare finished higher in the league this year than in 2011!

Serious stretch by the Leinster Chairman. Like most counties Kildare have a smallish core support who'll be there through thick and thin and a sizeable fair weather support when things are looking up. Kildare were desperate for most of the mid 2000s and brought poor crowds - I'd say there was only a few thousand of us there in Croke Park for Leinster games between 04-06 (Wexford 04, Wicklow/Westmeath/Laois 05, Offaly 06). That was at a time when Leinster games were drawing massive crowds. We're no worse now than we were then.

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Jack Robinson not good enough good enough for the senior panel yet? Looked like he was playing for Kildare juniors last night.

He took a year out to go travelling, came back last summer. He's good enough. Superbly talented minor.

Watched him against Mayo minors in 2016 and he stood out a mile, barely noticed Hyland at all that day.

Hyland was black carded in the first half of that game for getting pulled out of a brawl!!

Being in college out in Galway probably doesn't help Robinson getting a run with the seniors. Most of the students on Kildare panels would be in Maynooth, Carlow or in Dublin.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Johnny Doyle announces his retirement
« on: June 05, 2019, 09:18:21 PM »
The great man kicked 3 points off the bench for the Kildare Junior Team tonight. He will grace Croke Park again in the Leinster Junior Final in a few weeks time.

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Sure Kildare was always part of Dublin, like parts of Meath and Wicklow, some Wicklow teams play in the Dublin leagues.

It was?  ???


You cant blame Dublin for the years of wastefullness by the Kildare GAA comunity, some massive clubs, lots of money, lots of wealthy individuals, all put to waste, In particular extortionite amounts of cash to previous managment regimes.

Massive clubs in Kildare?  ;D

Numbers wise you're probably only looking at Naas and maybe Celbridge at a push. They would also be the two strongest hurling clubs in the county at the moment and promote both codes 50/50. The other big clubs in the county like Moorefield and Sarsfields have very little hurling.

Newbridge is evenly split between Moorefield and Sarsfields. The rivalry probably benefits football in Newbridge compared to Naas which has become too big for one club.

The likes of Athy, Round Towers (Kildare town) and Clane would be no different from any other small town clubs in other counties. Leixlip is split between St Mary's and Confey and the place is full of Dubs. Maynooth is also a smallish club because the place does not have a big native population once you factor in the number of students living there.

Kildare football teams would still have a big representation from smaller rural clubs like Johnstownbridge, Carbury, St Laurence's, Two Mile House, Allenwood, Monasterevin etc.

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Dems the breaks Main Street - cuda, shuda etc.

But a draw was a fair result in a roller coaster game that entertained everyone there, including the Laoises/Westmeaths that hung on (Jazes, their game was shockingly bad and, had it gone to extra time, there could have been a riot)

Never got in contact with Dinny to buy him that cup of tea. There was great craic with myself and the brother with 5 Kildare lads who were hilarious with the quips. I can see how frustrated some Lilly supporters are so Dinny, you are not alone.

So, all in all, 10/10 for sheer entertainment. Some great scores, lively banter, thrills and spills.

Must say, as a nod to the Offaly boys, Tullamore is a wonderful venue now, having being a kip before.

Here's to next Sun

Ain't that the truth. I was leaving the Longford game numerous times as it looked done but they kept rising from the dead. Was more interested in seeing Longford sneak a winner than us scraping an undeserved draw. Super game, had everything. Great game management from Longford at the end of normal time to run down the clock, keep the ball and in the last 10 seconds create an incursion inside the 45 and get a shot off knowing that Kildare wouldn't have time to get back up the field if it went over. And of course it dramatically came back off the post. Some sore bodies today I'd say, the hits in extra time could be felt in the stand.

The shoulder that Cian O'Donoghue took was a monster hit from the Longford man.

Great entertainment throughout. Credit to both teams.

I'd chance Aaron O'Neill in goal the next day and give Niall Kelly a starting place ahead of Brophy or O'Flaherty. We're going nowhere fast this summer but nice to have another day out all the same. Would love another crack at Carlow/Poacher!!

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Donnellan, Dempsey, D Hyland, M Hyland, P Kelly, Doyle, K Cribben, Feely, Conway, Slattery, McCormack, O'Flaherty, Tyrrell, Brophy, N Flynn

The only remaining footballer in Leinster outside of Dublin with an All Star award. Says it all.


No Mick O'Grady, Johnny Byrne, Kevin Flynn, Tommy Moolick,  Dan Flynn, Paul Cribben from that game  or no  Niall Kelly off the bench.

Add James Murray, Callaghan and Healy to that.

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General discussion / Re: The Horse racing thread
« on: May 16, 2019, 08:32:58 PM »
Gigginstown to scale down operations over the next 4-5 years. Didn't see that coming.

A dark day for national hunt breeders across the country. The market for stores should normalise in the next few years. They have been going for insane money recently.

For the very casual racing fan, what are "stores"

A store is a horse bred specifically for jumping.

Eddie O'Leary tended to avoid buying horses who had been bred for or had ran previously on the flat. Tiger Roll ironically would be an exception to that. John Ferguson paid £70k for him as a foal for Godolphin but he never made the track and was sold to Nigel Hawke for £10k as a 3yo. He won a juvenile hurdle at Market Rasen on debut before moving to Elliott.

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General discussion / Re: The Horse racing thread
« on: May 15, 2019, 06:18:35 PM »
Gigginstown to scale down operations over the next 4-5 years. Didn't see that coming.

A dark day for national hunt breeders across the country. The market for stores should normalise in the next few years. They have been going for insane money recently.

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