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Tommo apologies if you think my post was condoning the actions of the omagh official as it most certainly wasn't. hitting any man a punch on a football field wether you think your right or wrong should never ever be tolerated by anybody. the referee was correct and dealt with the incident accordingly as sludden would have been sent off for inciting the melee in the first place never mind his retaliation. stepping over the line was referencing his actions not the physical action of stepping over the line if that makes sense. Im sure stal mcsorley when he has time to reflect today knows he was wrong to strike sludden and I hope the killyclogher man is equally as reflective as you seem to be implying his striking and subsequent punishment was a lesser crime. a punch is a punch. no example to children by either man. time the gaa  got serious and  rid our games of this nonsense once and for all. I also am man enough to realise that my use of the word karma referencing the best player on the pitch Ciaran mclaughlin being taken out by no 10 was inflammatory and does nothing but deepen the chasm. move on please the game is over and both individuals will have to suffer the consequences.

I think your bias is clouding your judgement, mc laughlin was fouled as bradley was struggling with him and probably got away a bit lightly but it was not a sending off, no chance at all.

I am very much of the opinion whether right or not if a man is brave ennough to come up and throw 2 punches at you you are well within your rights to defend yourself.

on another noote, mc laughlin is an excellent talent and definitely one for the future at coounty level, serious engine on him and classy footballer

Gabhan sludden who got sent off is the refs son

[In saying that, if someone fires a shoulder into you they deserve a drive to the head]

Seen the incident, man from omagh (mcsorley is he?) is a prat. Sludden was just right

Certainly not condoning the incident, in fact it was ridiculous thing to be at. I'm a bit surprised though that so many people seen it happen when there was a small crowd at the game.
How did you see the incident White Goodman, where you there ?

Well I was there and I'm neither Killyclogher or Omagh. Whatever about shouldering, ball being kicked away wtc, the guy on the omagh bench should not have got involved and he certainly through the first punches. As someone said above to absolute disgrace walking off laughing his head up whilst covered in blood. Its understandable for players to be fired up and incidents occurring but for some idiot to walk on to the pitch and start throwing punches at someone more than half his age is a disgrace.

Too many tubes on the sideline constantly at it and I don't understand how someone in the club doesn't have words with them as they are an embarrassment more than anything to the clubs reputation. In saying that, if someone fires a shoulder into you they deserve a drive to the head.

Are you serious??!!! How many times in a game, do people shoulder each other, but realise the boundaries. For a start, the official should not have been on the pitch. He certainly should not have kicked the ball away. Even though the player shouldered him, his reaction was not in keeping with the shoulder. Anyway, never mind all this, he should be nowhere near a football pitch. he is a liability and should receive a long ban. It would be good to hear that Omagh had banned him from the club independently.

I agree with you on the Omagh man, my point is in general is that why is it seen as acceptable to fire a shoulder into an unsuspecting man in the GAA?  Running and firing a shoulder into a man is no more sever than a punch to the body, yet there would be no issue with a red card for that.

A punch and a shoulder are very different in knowing how much damage each are going to cause. If you get involved in a a game from the sidelines by kicking a ball away then you should be expecting a shoulder. You don't want to be involved then leave the football alone, take your seat and shut up

[the 'best double tyrone of the year' award]

No amount of All Irelands can change the fact Cavanagh's actions that day were reprehensible.

Reprehensible? come off it. Cavanagh's actions were no more or no less than what I would expect any team mate of mine to do in a big game. The fact that the laws at the time allowed him to go relatively unpunished is not his fault.  I haven't met anyone who played at any sort of level who thought that Cavanagh did anything they wouldn't do themselves.

Except that time when a fella from Offaly wanted Cluxton sent off for same in 2007!

Dragging down McManus after he showed a clean pair of heels  and clear on goal was  frustrating as hell  but just foul play in the scheme of things. Brolly's rant was totally misplaced, AZ's expressed  sentiments on that incident  are spot on. Brolly was out of order and hypocritical.

Earlier in that game  Sean dragged down a player and got him yellow carded and in all probability was pleased with that,  gaining a handy scorable free and getting Monaghan's best player on a yellow.  That could  be called the  'double tyrone',  they probably have an award for that in Tyrone,  the 'best double tyrone of the year' award

Yeah I think I seen a banner for that award among the bunting going through Emyvale for the semi final.

The good citizens of Emyvale village would most certainly prefer if the drivers coming from Aughnacloy  were competent and kept their attention on the road,, so that they would negotiate the bend into main street without threatening life and limb.

Build a bypass then...you can still put up the Tyrone flags on on the lampposts like in Clontibret

Call me stereotypical or whatever ye want but the 3 behind the car don't look like Tyrone wans! So ye cant blame us

Seen the incident, man from omagh (mcsorley is he?) is a prat. Sludden was just right

Certainly not condoning the incident, in fact it was ridiculous thing to be at. I'm a bit surprised though that so many people seen it happen when there was a small crowd at the game.
How did you see the incident White Goodman, where you there ?

Well I was there and I'm neither Killyclogher or Omagh. Whatever about shouldering, ball being kicked away wtc, the guy on the omagh bench should not have got involved and he certainly through the first punches. As someone said above to absolute disgrace walking off laughing his head up whilst covered in blood. Its understandable for players to be fired up and incidents occurring but for some idiot to walk on to the pitch and start throwing punches at someone more than half his age is a disgrace.

[stepped over the line with his actions]

bit of a crazy action all round tommo 2. both individuals hardly covered themselves in glory have a lot of sympathy with the player he was aggresively attempting to get the ball but stepped over the line with his actions as did the omagh official. ref left with no option both deserved what they got, killyclogher will feel agrieved with the sanction but he the player left the ref no option strike and your off, maybe a bit of karma for omaghs no 5 being struck bout 5 mins earlier and the ref chose to ignore it. both teams seriously understrength and reflected in an error strewn contest. wee cup of tae and a sandwich would have sorted out the sour taste.

How does a man step over the line when he is being attacked by a reserve manager who shouldn't even be inside the wire? was a act of self defense as the manager struck the player first and went to do it again only the player had to react and defend himself.

Not the first time that the manager has been involved in some hanlon, seems a regular occurrence

Felt for Sludden because the boy from Omaghs management was way out of line and started the whole thing. Absolute disgrace coming on to the pitch and swinging for a player. Sludden was perfectly correct to go back at him.

However he had to go as it doesn't matter whether its a player or management team you swing a punch (and by God he connected with several) you have to go. Harsh but correct.

As for the omagh fella he should get a years ban at least. Disgraceful and embarrassing not being able to control yourself like that.

All this talk about players leaving the panel no mention of shea mc guigan pj lavery dwayne quinn are they just not good enough to warrant a mention

Shay Mc Guigan - definitely not good enough and had plenty of chances

Dwayne Quinn - Not in a starting position yet but would and hopefully still will come good

PJ Lavery - I think definitely would have made the team eventually if he had stuck at it

These are very close knit communities and their clubs are the focal point for most of these communities and a big link to your county at home. People away are 10 times more passionate about their county and wanting to win.

You have guys out there earning fortunes and to be honest on the grand scheme of things 12 thousand dollars isn't a hell of a lot to a lot of the successful guys out there.

As most clubs are linked to a county or area its just the same as the money guys putting into club tyrone over here as you want to see the county do well. Plus its a big deal to get tyrone players etc playing on your team

I wonder what they would give for an aging corner forward with 2 bad knees and a crooked finger. If they gave me 12 I would leave the wife in the morning and go for it

Kane did not get fair run with the county.

Whats a fair run? He was on the panel for a few years, I'd assume that if he was performing in training he would have made the team. You cant just put every decent club player in the starting 15 for a year to see if they can hack it. They must show up better in training than others. This is the part of the process that we don't see. If Mickey didn't rate him he wouldn't have been on the squad, but once he's there, then its up to him to consistently push himself to make the starting 15. If he fell a bit short, then no shame in that but I cant see Mickey overlooking him if he was outstanding week in and week out at training.

A fair run would be 4 or 5 starts to show up well, though that might be the bulk of a league campaign and if a player underperforms then understandably would be back among the subs. The problem is that even when Kane did perform well he was back on the subs the next day. If you compare that to the opportunities given to Ciaran McGinley and Aidan McCrory then there is a huge level of inconsistency, and it's easy to point the finger at MH for his parochial leanings, however there is an element of truth in it.

I would say Kane did very well to make the county setup and was a very committed member of it who never got a fair crack at making the starting 15 and was used to make up the numbers in a bloated training squad, like many before him and like many will no doubt in the future. I think the commitment of these players is commendable, however I don't think its commendable to keep a players hanging around the outskirts of a squad for 2 or 3 years expecting absolute commitment to training etc. if it is known by management that they are never realistically being considered first team players.

As harsh as it is only 15 are gonna play. The league is important. You can't drop an entire squad and hope for the best with new guys. Can you imagine the outcry if we got beat every game and din't put it up to anyone, but wait its okay plunkett kane got a good run and looked okay but those 4 other guys weren't good enough and now we are relegated.

Harte has obviously falling out with fellas and consistently picked fellas for whatever reason or another but this big idea that 10 new gusy are gonna start 5 games is ludicrous. Why plunkett kane? what about the other 9 new faces. He had his chance and I actually think if he stuck it out would be playing now

nah it was 12 ewes

Expensive purchase all the same, probably only get one more outing this year! Yeoh

In Derry the club champ 1st round (albeit with a backdoor) is in late July.

Plenty of clubs have lost young players, including 4 from my own. If they want to go generally they'll go. Let them enjoy it.

Our club has a cship tradition and we may at times have lost one player occasionally, we never lost that amount. The only reason is due to an early exit, I can assure you our players always stay to play championship.

someone forgot to tell that to collie doris

Lovely hit.

Simple fact is a hell of a lot more players have left because of the early round of the championship and who can blame them. Its effected our club game and the county squadn losing out. Its the last year of it though. Probably works when tyrone were doing really well but not anymore

I heard mc geary, burns, mc nulty and Dwayne Quinn all away stateside now to. Don't blame them. This early championship round has been a rip roaring success!

I wonder has mickey tried to get niall sludden in again this year

Anybody who moans about the style they are being told to play to win for your county or club should go away and jump. Talk about ego getting carried away.

I can assure that wasn't why mc namee left. which is the sad thing. He was one of the fellas who would go into battle 100%. As for someone moaning about the way he is being told to play, ship him off to the states with a one way ticket please and promote an under 21 who wants to play for the team!

"Duh" ? Bored after school?

Don't be so ridiculous hate playing that way. They paly any other way they would get thumped. Ye play for the team. Mc Namee is a major loss I think. Mc Kenna gone to states to but not as pivotal. The difference with hub and mc guigan was the season was over when they decided to go and they had won trophies. Also there wasn't a mass exodus like we have seen this year.

Worryingly no matter what supporters think you would hope the players believe there is a chance of all Ireland glory. With people walking away would make you think they really don't and there is problems there