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#6061
General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
March 16, 2018, 09:39:37 AM
The one question we haven't got an answer to, is why did this girl leave her friends and go back to Jackson's house with 3 other girls she vaguely knew. What was she doing there?
#6062
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
March 16, 2018, 09:36:21 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 16, 2018, 09:30:48 AM
Quote from: trailer on March 16, 2018, 09:28:41 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 15, 2018, 08:58:09 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 15, 2018, 07:54:31 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 15, 2018, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 15, 2018, 01:17:38 PM
Guardiola had a much easier job to do.

He inherited a team that in 15/16 had scored 71 league goals compared to Van Gaal's 49. Yes, 49 goals in 38 games.
Since then he has spent close to £280 million on keepers and defenders to plug the leaks at the back.

Cutting lose players with septic attitudes like Nasri and Yaya Toure was also low hanging fruit for Pep.

Yet both teams finished on 66 points in 2015/16.
Yes, but City had easier problems to fix. Around February that season they were right up with Leicester but then their players packed it in. As was typical of the Mancini and Pellegrini era where there was often questionable commitment from certain players.

It's nice to be able to spend 300 million to sort out a keeper and defence when you have Ageuro, Silva and De Bruyne doing their job at the other end.

Mourinho took over a team with Wayne Rooney and Memphis Depay leading the attack. Big difference.
The really big difference is between the owners.
Man City's qataris take a long view. they waited for years to get Guardiola.
The Glazers are more interested in how many shirts they sell in Asia.
A lot of Man Utd purchases during the van Gaal reign were last minute.
Man City is more zen

Certainly around the LVG era when Utd just seemed to sign anything and anyone who was available. And a lot of them turned out to be very poor quality. DiMaria, Falcao, Darmian, Depay, Scherderlin, Schweinsteiger. Couple of 100 million spunked on that alone.

There weren't too many complaints at the time, shopping at Harrods I think was the line

Well perhaps. But I think it has been proved at lots of clubs that if you enter the market and purchase lots of players in one or two windows, the players can't be integrated with any success. 2-3 players in any window is plenty. Strengthen positions rather than buy for the sake of it. Jose guilty at times too.
#6063
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
March 16, 2018, 09:28:41 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 15, 2018, 08:58:09 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 15, 2018, 07:54:31 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 15, 2018, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 15, 2018, 01:17:38 PM
Guardiola had a much easier job to do.

He inherited a team that in 15/16 had scored 71 league goals compared to Van Gaal's 49. Yes, 49 goals in 38 games.
Since then he has spent close to £280 million on keepers and defenders to plug the leaks at the back.

Cutting lose players with septic attitudes like Nasri and Yaya Toure was also low hanging fruit for Pep.

Yet both teams finished on 66 points in 2015/16.
Yes, but City had easier problems to fix. Around February that season they were right up with Leicester but then their players packed it in. As was typical of the Mancini and Pellegrini era where there was often questionable commitment from certain players.

It's nice to be able to spend 300 million to sort out a keeper and defence when you have Ageuro, Silva and De Bruyne doing their job at the other end.

Mourinho took over a team with Wayne Rooney and Memphis Depay leading the attack. Big difference.
The really big difference is between the owners.
Man City's qataris take a long view. they waited for years to get Guardiola.
The Glazers are more interested in how many shirts they sell in Asia.
A lot of Man Utd purchases during the van Gaal reign were last minute.
Man City is more zen

Certainly around the LVG era when Utd just seemed to sign anything and anyone who was available. And a lot of them turned out to be very poor quality. DiMaria, Falcao, Darmian, Depay, Scherderlin, Schweinsteiger. Couple of 100 million spunked on that alone.
#6064
General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
March 15, 2018, 12:38:15 PM
I'd imagine he'd be on full pay. No? He's only accused at this stage.
#6065
Teams must earn the right to play at the top table. No one is out crying asking for Oxford Utd to be let into the Champions League. The worst 20 teams must sort themselves out. Patrons want to watch the best teams, playing each other in meaningful games in the summer.

No-one wants to watch Waterford V Leitrim no matter how much money you throw at, nor how much TV coverage you give it. If these two sides were in the backyard playing most people wouldn't open the curtains. Therein is the problem. We're trying to sell games no-one cares about.

#6066
Yes 3 tiers equally promoted. Open up Croke Park for 3682 people who turn up watch the Antrim v Waterford in Pat Spillane Cup. Not going to happen. Turkeys don't vote for Christmas.
It will need to be voted on by congress. You've more chance of the USA passing meaningful gun legislation than you have of the congress voting for a tiered competition.

The best thing that can happen is that Division 1 teams continuously hammer these weaker counties until the players no longer want to play for them. Unrelenting, unmerciful beatings is all these teams deserve and it must be served up to them in heaps. They're not good enough and should be reminded of that at every single juncture.

#6067
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
March 14, 2018, 10:00:16 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on March 14, 2018, 09:46:02 AM
That was dreadful, as soon as I saw the team I was worried. I still can't believe he started Fellaini, one of the most bizare decisions I've ever seen any manager make. He's not a defensive midfielder and it left United with no control over Sevilla at all, playing him alongside Matic when he's fit is bad enough but to play him after barely playing any football in months was a crazy decision he'll regret for a long time.

Ultimately its the managers fault and Mourinho deserves all the flack he gets for last night, Sevilla are a good side but its obvious the English clubs have improved in recent years judging by results this season but we gave them too much respect last night although there's no chance you can control a match with a midfield 2 of Matic & Fellaini, I can see what he was trying to do but it was obvious early on that Fellaini was having a poor night and struggled to control any ball that came his way.

Apart from Lukaku everyone else was poor, United needed to start with a high tempo and didn't: I put most of that down to Fellaini's inclusion, he's too easy to play against and not good enough at pressuring opponents.

I still think Mourinho is the right man for the job but obviously he's not beyond criticism. He's got to get it right next season which is mounting a proper title challenge and playing better football consistently. He's never going to play football like Pep or Klopp but his Chelsea teams were decent to watch though. I've no doubt he'll get money to bring in better players but its still worrying you can make a case we still need 5 players. In an ideal world we need 2 new fullbacks, a centre half, centre mid and a right sided attacking player but I just don't see that happening. He needed to have a bigger clearout last summer and bring in more players but that didn't materialise, still don't understand why a leftback wasn't bought.

We'll all agree Mourinho isn't getting the most out of his attacking players.

Ashley Young is playing the best football of his career and likely to be England's first choice left back for the World Cup. Valencia also having a good season. Of all the problems Utd have, full backs aren't one of them.
#6068
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
March 14, 2018, 09:31:12 AM
If Klopp had the resources Jose had, Utd would be closer to City and still in the Champions League.
For all the Money Jose has spent Utd's best players are Mata, Young, Rashford De Gea. All bought by other managers except Rashford obviously. Jose has been very poor in the transfer market with Pogba, Lukaku, Sanchez, Miki, Bailly & Lindeof all below the level expected of Manchester Utd players.
The blame rests firmly at Jose's door.
#6069
Quote from: stew on March 13, 2018, 12:40:37 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on March 12, 2018, 06:07:33 PM
Class and Dignity FC

everytime

He is not a Liverpool employee anymore, this incident has as much to do with Liverpool Fc as it does with a pair of track suit bottoms.

Repugnant act, first time he has done it, suspension, fine, apology move on, if it happens again lifetime ban. simples.

Who should fine him? Lifetime ban from what? Watching Sky?
Utterly ludicrous statement
#6070
General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
March 12, 2018, 05:04:06 PM
Quote from: Franko on March 12, 2018, 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 12, 2018, 04:56:33 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 12, 2018, 04:49:43 PM
I don't think any of the defendants are credible. Harrison and McIlroy in particular were all over the place.

I don't know if McIlroy comes across as an arsehole or (and I genuinely mean this) somewhat aloof with no real cognitive thoughts.

Syferus?

:o
#6071
General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
March 12, 2018, 04:56:33 PM
Quote from: seafoid on March 12, 2018, 04:49:43 PM
I don't think any of the defendants are credible. Harrison and McIlroy in particular were all over the place.

I don't know if McIlroy comes across as an arsehole or (and I genuinely mean this) somewhat aloof with no real cognitive thoughts.
#6072
General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
March 12, 2018, 04:42:13 PM
The defence was going pretty well right up until the point they opened their mouths. Their legal team looks like something that was assembled outside Ollie's at 4:00am. Absolute half wits.
#6073
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
March 12, 2018, 04:14:05 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on March 12, 2018, 04:03:41 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 12, 2018, 03:46:38 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on March 12, 2018, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: trailer on March 12, 2018, 10:00:25 AM
Really? Heard it was just Audi Kelly. Also heard he's off to a certain Derry club who've recently lost their management team. ££££ talks!

Audi Kelly for Slaughtneil? Is that a serious suggestion?

This is what I heard. Not sure how reliable it is. But why would he leave Moy at this late stage? Something has to have turned his head. It definitely wasn't this bullshit line about managing against Edendork. It's not like they were promoted last weekend....

If it comes off its a huge promotion for him and likely be a huge financial gain.  I still wont believe it until its confirmed, I just thought Slaughtneil would be pitching a wee bit higher and that without disrespecting Audi Kelly who has been successful but lacks consistency and isn't proven at the top level when given the opportunity.

I don't believe it either if I am honest. Time will tell. But it's a strange one nevertheless.
#6074
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
March 12, 2018, 03:46:38 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on March 12, 2018, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: trailer on March 12, 2018, 10:00:25 AM
Really? Heard it was just Audi Kelly. Also heard he's off to a certain Derry club who've recently lost their management team. ££££ talks!

Audi Kelly for Slaughtneil? Is that a serious suggestion?

This is what I heard. Not sure how reliable it is. But why would he leave Moy at this late stage? Something has to have turned his head. It definitely wasn't this bullshit line about managing against Edendork. It's not like they were promoted last weekend....
#6075
General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
March 12, 2018, 10:42:13 AM
Quote from: Taylor on March 12, 2018, 10:21:07 AM
After parties tend to be different in the city.
Narcotics freely available and plenty of women partying hard

Ahhy dead on big lad. Just mad drug fuelled orgies going on in the city every night of the week.