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GAA Discussion / Re: Gaelic Football RIP
« on: August 15, 2018, 11:19:07 AM »
The time it would take to reset into 6-2-6 for every kickout would waste a lot of time. You're a point down heading into injury time. The opposition has the kickout, the half forward who tracked his man back now takes an age to walk up to his position. This is another idea that will not work.

General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: August 15, 2018, 11:13:44 AM »
Think Celtic will struggle to get into the Europa League. The away leg could be very tricky.

GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 15, 2018, 10:21:44 AM »
Likely ref?
Gough or Branagan would be my guess.

Anthony Nolan did a good job at the weekend.

He's right though. It's utter shite.

GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 14, 2018, 03:41:38 PM »
True Orchard.
Anyway this should upset a few

"Tyrone are unlikely saviours. Unlikely and unlovely. Yesterday against Monaghan their sledging, diving, playacting, pulling, dragging, snarling, cribbing side was much in evidence. They could not be more different from Dublin, a skilful, athletic, sporting, attractive, exhilarating marvel of a team"

What a load of tosh Dublin have the 3 worst perpetrators of what is he is talking about in John Small, Johnny Cooper and Philly McMahon. Tyrone have no one in comparison and there was very little of what he was talking about on show yesterday by either team. But sure using a cheap stereotype conceived by a sore loser prob works to make a point so lets jump on it.

Colm Cavanagh taken out by the sniper in the crowd was he? I assume with your poor eyesight you missed all the card waving at the referee after fouls. Loads of verbals off the ball stuff going on during the game on sunday.

Itís unbelievable how people only see one way on these things. The Dubs are the masters at everything you have just posted about. Particularly throwing themselves down, getting a roar from the Hill, an easy free for Rock and the scoreboard ticks over. If you think Cooper and the lads donít give verbals then you are a blinkered fool.

I'm well aware Cooper is well able to dish out the verbals. Unfortunately it's something Tyrone introduced to the game along with alot of other cynical tactics that make it hard to watch at times.

 In fairness to Mayo while they could never beat Dublin at least they went man on man and had a go. It is as other posters pointed out the only way to beat Dublin.

I was hoping Monaghan would reach the final. At least then it would have be more of a spectacle. Nothing enjoyable about watching Tyrone put 14/15 men behind the ball and then handpass it up the pitch. It's supposed to be FOOTBALL not handball.  They quality of shooting & kick passing in the semi final on Sunday was shockingly bad for a semi final.  The problem for Tyrone is that if they are so used to the blanket defence and defending with numbers that their defenders don't have to defend man to man.

It's a sad state of affairs that a team's strategy like Tyrone becomes f**ked if they go 3/4 points down. Only 2 things can happen in a game. You either go behind or ahead so to play dublin and have no plan for what happens if you go behind early is a joke.


Just watching it back now and hadn't noticed the deliberate trip on colm after ten minutes. Should have been a black.

I called this right after the game if you go back about 12 pages. I thought it was unbelievable that a BC wasn't produced. The ref blew for the free so it wasn't as if he didn't see it.

It was a text book BC decision.

I'm not saying that you're not correct but I just don't remember the incident that you are referring to.
Is it the incident down the corner of the cusack and davin. I didn't think much of it at the time and a BC never crossed my mind,. However, for the purposes of the debate i'll give you the benefit and say it was - they get to bring a sub on anyway so its hardly critical. The uselessness of the BC - that's a whole different thread.

I think the point is that there is a fair bit of talk about McNamee's potential BC. But not as much about the potential Monaghan one. Both were clear black cards in my book.
For me its yet another attempt to argue that the ref somehow balanced the books with bad decisions. As Paul Kimmage might say "He did in his b*ll*x". Its not just this match either. Its happens regularly and you then get the same old rubbish spouted out afterwards that he was bad but it didn't affect the result. Why not tell it as it is and admit that it did affect the result. He 100% influenced the result on Sunday. He got a series of critical decisions wrong and a number of these led directly to Tyrone scores (a significantly greater number than those that led to Monaghan scores). I wonder will Tyrone folks be so level headed the next time they are shafted by an incompetent ref (because it will happen - sooner or later). I hope some young refs coming through are given an opportunity as this fellow has had his chances

Great teams never complain about the ref. No team ever gets every decision. If this is the Monaghan psyche (and I think it is, given MO'R's comments) then they will never be serious contenders. They were beaten by a team operating at around 60% - 70%. And I'd imagine that hurts, as they probably believed (wrongly) that they could overcome Tyrone, but reality is they're probably 4-5 players short.

+1 on the traffic yesterday. Absolute madness.

Where did yous park? Parked near O'Connell Street and left there around 5.30pm. it was very busy at the port tunnel and then on the M1. Took 3 hours overall to get home that way.

Parked about 5 - 10 mins from the port tunnel. Took nearly 1 hour to get back to it. Was well over 4 hours getting home. I couldn't live in a place with that sort of traffic, how people in Dublin do it I'll never know.

If you read back on this thread you might notice it wasn't just o'rourke had an issue with the ref...

If Monaghan think the ref cost them that game, then they'll never win anything. The answers are inside the players. Monaghan didn't have them yesterday. A good effort, but not good enough.

Think Tyrone are 4-5 points a better team. Reality is Monaghan gave it their all and it wasn't enough. Tyrone weren't as good as they can be. O'Rouke knows this. He knew Monaghan had to have the game of their lives which they did, and Tyrone have an off day which they did. Monaghan had nothing more, hence he focused in on the ref. Monaghan had no more answers.

Christ I was tired after I got home yesterday. A few musings.

Tyrone started like a rocket and let Monaghan back into the game when they had no right to be within 4 points of them at half time never mind level.
McManus was well marshalled and Monaghan struggled to a point without him.
Kieran Hughes probably should've been introduced earlier
Goals win games and Tyrone should've had at least one other when Harte fumbled a ball.
Tyrone had enough in the tank to beat them and the scoreline flattered Monaghan.
Monaghan can blame the ref all they want, but the reality is they weren't good enough.
Tyrone will need to up their game for the final massively. I think they have it in them to do it.
Dublin is a shithole to get out of. The traffic was f**king mental.

General discussion / Re: The Official Golf Thread
« on: August 13, 2018, 08:56:39 PM »
USís Ryder cup team looking a bit good...
DJ, Brooks, Justin Thomas, Patrick Reed, Bubba Watson, Jordan Spieth, Rickie Fowler and Webb Simpson plus their 4 wild card picks

On paper it looks good. But pairing them up might be tricky. Webb Simpson and Bubba together would be good craic. Although Speith, Koepka, Fowler and Thomas all seem to get along really well. You probably put Reed and Bubba together just cause no one else likes them.

General discussion / Re: The John Aldridge/Sunday World Comedy Thread
« on: August 13, 2018, 08:53:26 PM »
I wouldn't wipe my arse with the Sunday World. Does Spillane still write for them? Is the half naked pictures of women still on the front cover?

General discussion / Re: Willie Frazer and FAIR
« on: August 10, 2018, 02:11:38 PM »
Arlene and co meeting poor Willie ....oh the outrage over ' have you found your daddy'

No outrage over FTP, KAT, effigies of Martin McGuinness in a coffin, Bobby Sands, etc, tricolours, gaa jerseys.

If this is a hate crime, then what is it when the boul Willie calls all of south Armagh republican scum, murderers, and tramps?

Christ lads, with all the attention seeking stunts that Willie has done over the years, finally he is fading into the background of irrelevance and what do these eejits do? Push him right back to the forefront and give him some kind of legitimacy.

I would love to local nationalist communities totally reject these bonfires and stand up to those who think that they are a good idea.

We look down our nose at the 11th night bonfires and rightly so but then we have a crowd wanting to ape them, we cant have it both ways.

This is not Kulture.

Insane Bolts post is classic whataboutery.

General discussion / Re: Ban the Burka or Boris
« on: August 10, 2018, 11:14:01 AM »
Boris is a dangerous man, he's certainly not the fool he portrays himself to be.

The Burka should be banned though.

General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: August 10, 2018, 11:12:24 AM »
This is my favourite bit from the article . . .

Unlike his first two seasons in Manchester, Mourinho stopped noticeably short of talking up United as potential champions but his spikiest moment, presumably with Liverpool in mind, was directed towards the media for ďmaking people that finish second look like they were relegated and people who win nothing, finishing below us, look like serial winnersĒ.

Looking forward to another season of mediocrity at the theatre of w**ks!!

What age are you? 12?

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