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I love the comment about Micky Harte being lucky with the super eight draw two years in a row. Last year Tyrone beat the team top of the other group in the semi. Luck all round lol.

Lucky that "Top team" was Monaghan.
Tyrone - Monaghan and Donegal champions 2018  ;D

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: Today at 04:28:44 PM »
There is a complete gap with reality.
There was a farmer from Fermanagh direction interviewed on RTÉ a week or two ago who vote Leave, but reckoned it was up to the politicians to "sort it out" so he could continue to send his milk to the south.

Quite. There's people arguing here that the majority of farmers didn't vote leave, despite all the evidence.

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The Tyrone record against the big three of Dublin, Kerry and Mayo since the last win in 2008 doesn't make for great reading. 

The numbers don't lie, they just need to be interpreted. Certainly the figures contradict the high opinion afforded to Tyrone by pundits and supporters alike.



They’re clearly not in the top 3 but they’re not awfully far behind Mayo and Kerry, I’d certainly have Donegal ahead of them at the minute as well.

Based on what?

Based on the Ulster Semi final probably. You know, when they bate them.
Tyrone people are deluded if you think we're in the top 4. We've beaten no one of note in the last 11 years.

I hate this ridiculous argument about top 4, but i’ll Humour you. If you Tyrone people are “deluded” about Tyrone being fourth (we’ll say for argument sake Kerry and Mayo are 2nd and 3rd), which counties outside of those twohave Tyrone not beaten recently when it mattered most? I.e. at the knock out, do or die stage of the championship? I’ll remind you that Tyrone beat Donegal, in Ballybofey, last year when it really mattered. Ask Monaghan about their record after beating us in Ulster. Perhaps Galway? Who couldn’t beat Roscommon, or the Rossies themselves maybe? No evidence needed here 😂😂😂 What about Cork? Meath? Kildare? Armagh perhaps? I think you’ll also find Tyrone have more All Ireland final and semi final appearances in the last 5 years than those counties combined have achieved in that same time period. So I am keen to know, do you understand what the word “deluded” means?

Love it. 2 years ago we bate Donegal, but lost this year to them, but we're still better than them. We bate Dublin in 08, 11 years ago. Are we still better than them?
If anything this proves the slide under Harte. Donegal are progressing and we're not. Only for 2 very fortunate super 8 draws we'd have been nowhere near this years AISF or last years AIF. This is reality, time we faced up to it. We're nowhere near and we're going to be nowhere near unless we dump this specialist in failure one Mickey Harte.

According to you Donegal are a top 4 team. Last year we were pitted with them and the Dubs so the group contained 2 of the top 4. How was that a soft draw? I'd say Donegal would have beaten us in ulster last year as well as Tyrone are slow starters to the championship aiming to peak later on. I would say the fact we have got further than Donegal in 4 of the last 5 years championships is a fair reflection that we've been ahead of them during this period.

 It's crazy the way they keep getting talked up with all these fresh tactics etc while Tyrone have terrible tactics but still end up getting further year on year.
Don't be tying him up in knots. Mickeys a specialist in failure. Fact.

I'm not in knots. So if we beat a team 2 years ago but lose to them this year we're better than them? Is that what were saying?
We're great at beating Roscommon, Monaghan and the likes. We can boss Ulster in January, 37 McKenna Cups and counting. But when it comes to Kerry, Mayo, Dublin, actual good teams, at the business end of the season, not so much.

We beat Donegal last August, that was 1 year ago. You were the person who said anyone who thinks Tyrone are top 4 are deluded but cant seem to make a decent argument for who the 4th best team is. I'm not sure how anyone can argue that a team who has reached the top 4 in 4 of the last 5 championships aren't a top 4 team.

We haven't been able to push on to the very next level but it's very easy to blame this on the manager and ignore the fact that perhaps the players have been just slightly below the level. Tyrone were totally on top in the first half v Kerry with the tactics working well. In the second half the players made a number of bad decisions at key times giving Kerry the initiative. And there is no doubt they are the best players in Tyrone with Bradley the only one missing that would make a difference and there was a good reason for his absence.

 Would they have done differently under a different manger, very unlikely.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. That's the level we're at. Harte is not the solution.
Anyway everyone knows where I stand on the issue. Can't wait to win the McKenna cup next year.

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The Tyrone record against the big three of Dublin, Kerry and Mayo since the last win in 2008 doesn't make for great reading. 

The numbers don't lie, they just need to be interpreted. Certainly the figures contradict the high opinion afforded to Tyrone by pundits and supporters alike.



They’re clearly not in the top 3 but they’re not awfully far behind Mayo and Kerry, I’d certainly have Donegal ahead of them at the minute as well.

Based on what?

Based on the Ulster Semi final probably. You know, when they bate them.
Tyrone people are deluded if you think we're in the top 4. We've beaten no one of note in the last 11 years.

I hate this ridiculous argument about top 4, but i’ll Humour you. If you Tyrone people are “deluded” about Tyrone being fourth (we’ll say for argument sake Kerry and Mayo are 2nd and 3rd), which counties outside of those twohave Tyrone not beaten recently when it mattered most? I.e. at the knock out, do or die stage of the championship? I’ll remind you that Tyrone beat Donegal, in Ballybofey, last year when it really mattered. Ask Monaghan about their record after beating us in Ulster. Perhaps Galway? Who couldn’t beat Roscommon, or the Rossies themselves maybe? No evidence needed here 😂😂😂 What about Cork? Meath? Kildare? Armagh perhaps? I think you’ll also find Tyrone have more All Ireland final and semi final appearances in the last 5 years than those counties combined have achieved in that same time period. So I am keen to know, do you understand what the word “deluded” means?

Love it. 2 years ago we bate Donegal, but lost this year to them, but we're still better than them. We bate Dublin in 08, 11 years ago. Are we still better than them?
If anything this proves the slide under Harte. Donegal are progressing and we're not. Only for 2 very fortunate super 8 draws we'd have been nowhere near this years AISF or last years AIF. This is reality, time we faced up to it. We're nowhere near and we're going to be nowhere near unless we dump this specialist in failure one Mickey Harte.

According to you Donegal are a top 4 team. Last year we were pitted with them and the Dubs so the group contained 2 of the top 4. How was that a soft draw? I'd say Donegal would have beaten us in ulster last year as well as Tyrone are slow starters to the championship aiming to peak later on. I would say the fact we have got further than Donegal in 4 of the last 5 years championships is a fair reflection that we've been ahead of them during this period.

 It's crazy the way they keep getting talked up with all these fresh tactics etc while Tyrone have terrible tactics but still end up getting further year on year.
Don't be tying him up in knots. Mickeys a specialist in failure. Fact.

I'm not in knots. So if we beat a team 2 years ago but lose to them this year we're better than them? Is that what were saying?
We're great at beating Roscommon, Monaghan and the likes. We can boss Ulster in January, 37 McKenna Cups and counting. But when it comes to Kerry, Mayo, Dublin, actual good teams, at the business end of the season, not so much.



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The Tyrone record against the big three of Dublin, Kerry and Mayo since the last win in 2008 doesn't make for great reading. 

The numbers don't lie, they just need to be interpreted. Certainly the figures contradict the high opinion afforded to Tyrone by pundits and supporters alike.



They’re clearly not in the top 3 but they’re not awfully far behind Mayo and Kerry, I’d certainly have Donegal ahead of them at the minute as well.

Based on what?

Based on the Ulster Semi final probably. You know, when they bate them.
Tyrone people are deluded if you think we're in the top 4. We've beaten no one of note in the last 11 years.

I hate this ridiculous argument about top 4, but i’ll Humour you. If you Tyrone people are “deluded” about Tyrone being fourth (we’ll say for argument sake Kerry and Mayo are 2nd and 3rd), which counties outside of those twohave Tyrone not beaten recently when it mattered most? I.e. at the knock out, do or die stage of the championship? I’ll remind you that Tyrone beat Donegal, in Ballybofey, last year when it really mattered. Ask Monaghan about their record after beating us in Ulster. Perhaps Galway? Who couldn’t beat Roscommon, or the Rossies themselves maybe? No evidence needed here 😂😂😂 What about Cork? Meath? Kildare? Armagh perhaps? I think you’ll also find Tyrone have more All Ireland final and semi final appearances in the last 5 years than those counties combined have achieved in that same time period. So I am keen to know, do you understand what the word “deluded” means?

Love it. 2 years ago we bate Donegal, but lost this year to them, but we're still better than them. We bate Dublin in 08, 11 years ago. Are we still better than them?
If anything this proves the slide under Harte. Donegal are progressing and we're not. Only for 2 very fortunate super 8 draws we'd have been nowhere near this years AISF or last years AIF. This is reality, time we faced up to it. We're nowhere near and we're going to be nowhere near unless we dump this specialist in failure one Mickey Harte.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: Today at 09:04:53 AM »
Hope everyone was watching BBC News report this morning on Scotland & NI farmers. All voted leave. All want to come out either with or without a deal. So don't tell me they didn't overwhelming vote to leave. Chickens coming home to roost. Be a few farms up for sale....

Could you post up the facts backing this assertion up.

Watch the f**king clip. Those interviewed voted leave.

Didn't see the clip, have you got a link for it? So when you say 'all' what you really mean is just those interviewed then?

What was the sample size?

Ok Pedantic Pat.

Those farmers interviewed voted to leave. And still want to come out with or without a deal.

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The Tyrone record against the big three of Dublin, Kerry and Mayo since the last win in 2008 doesn't make for great reading. 

The numbers don't lie, they just need to be interpreted. Certainly the figures contradict the high opinion afforded to Tyrone by pundits and supporters alike.



They’re clearly not in the top 3 but they’re not awfully far behind Mayo and Kerry, I’d certainly have Donegal ahead of them at the minute as well.

Based on what?

Based on the Ulster Semi final probably. You know, when they bate them.
Tyrone people are deluded if you think we're in the top 4. We've beaten no one of note in the last 11 years.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: August 20, 2019, 05:52:48 PM »
Hope everyone was watching BBC News report this morning on Scotland & NI farmers. All voted leave. All want to come out either with or without a deal. So don't tell me they didn't overwhelming vote to leave. Chickens coming home to roost. Be a few farms up for sale....

Could you post up the facts backing this assertion up.

Watch the f**king clip. Those interviewed voted leave.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: August 20, 2019, 10:17:56 AM »
Hope everyone was watching BBC News report this morning on Scotland & NI farmers. All voted leave. All want to come out either with or without a deal. So don't tell me they didn't overwhelming vote to leave. Chickens coming home to roost. Be a few farms up for sale....

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I will not be censored

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: August 19, 2019, 10:09:29 PM »
Pogba is a f**king w**ker.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: August 19, 2019, 09:09:28 PM »
Rumours now going around that four players have opted out of the panel for the foreseeable. How you opt out in off season I'm not sure what the process is.

Heard N Sludden, K Coney, C McCann and C.Grugan had notified management of their intention to sit out the 2020 season........

I don't think C McCann is county standard and he'd be one of the lads I think we should be cutting for next year.

Think it would be hasty for Grugan to quit, he seemed to suffer a few injuries that held him back this year. Coney won't really offer much from the start but could be a decent option off the bench. Again I think it would be hasty but he doesn't really have the legs.

Sludden would be a loss but I think he struggled this year and seemed to be a bit lost as we began to move the ball more direct.

And this is the usual silly season. I doubt those lads are deciding whether they will play next year a week after the season has ended.

I’d say Colm Cavanagh will call it a day also. But sure all these players are no good and Harte is developing loads of future stars just like he’s always done so we’re grand. Please give Hitler Harte 3 more years.

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Thanks to everyone who confirmed my point re: Lee Brennan. He won't play for Harte. Possibly our most lethal attacker.
Re: Bradley. How come players from other counties fly over from England but Mark Bradley won't? Is the reason perhaps the Glencull dictator?
O'Neill - stepped off the panel. Harte wanted him and he wouldn't play.

These are the facts guys.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: August 19, 2019, 04:55:26 PM »
Rumours now going around that four players have opted out of the panel for the foreseeable. How you opt out in off season I'm not sure what the process is.

No doubt it involves telling people down the local before informing county manager.

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You can call me a wum or whatever doesn't bother me.
This is the truth as I see it. Harte has installed a band of loyal supporters on the county board. He has refused to be scrutinised by the largest media broadcaster in Ireland. His own club mates now sponsor the Tyrone setup. Numerous county players are refusing to play for him. The whole thing stinks from top to bottom. We've nothing to lose by ousting the Harte Mafia and everything to gain. We should stretch every sinew for freedom.



Completely on the fence in relation to Harte atm. But humour me, name the county players that are refusing to playe for him/should be involved with Tyrone.

Lee Brennan
Mark Bradley
Ronan O'Neill (granted he's played poorly but maybe a change of manager might turn his fortunes around. He has the talent)
There's 3.

It's ok we've all been seduced by Mickey and his band of yes men. But I plead with you, as a fellow gael, we must cast off the shackles Harte has imprisoned us in and strike now for freedom. We're at a crossroads. The choice is simple. Another season of mediocrity or the potential for greatness.

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