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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: February 20, 2019, 05:31:49 PM »
Could be a more-hands on President than Bill Clinton.




Sure you have to be a rapist to get elected in US. It is a pre-requisite apparently.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: February 20, 2019, 04:31:20 PM »
Why 60? Why not 50? or 57? or 63?

Its not the age that would be the qualification, but the wealth and depth of experience accrued.

I don't see how anyone under the age of 60 would be able to work in enough fields for enough time to be sufficiently experienced unless they explicitly set themselves the goal of doing so straight out of leaving the education system.

So, there might be someone younger that is suitable for the role - in which case that is absolutely fine with me. But the chances are it'd be unlikely.

[As your probably realising by now - I'm not an advocate of representative democracy.]


Look at it this way - in an ideal world you want the best people to be running the country. There are what, ~500 MPs in a population of 80million, so your seeking out the top ~0.001%.

There is virtually no way anyone under the age of 40 can be in the top 0.001% (that is 1 in 10,000) of people for having the best mix of intelligence, knowledge and wisdom. Under 50, very unlikely. Between 50 and 60, increasingly realistic. Above 60 is where I think you are going to find most of your best selection.

The over 60's have a much smaller stake in the future which could lead to short term populism.

Over 60s tend to be racists who smell of piss which can explain why the youth tend to hate them. 

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: February 20, 2019, 03:14:02 PM »
It's a really risky strategy for these MPs and most will probably pay with their jobs at the next election. It OK being a Tory candidate going up against Lab, Lib Dems etc but it's another being an Independent going up against them all. That's why we see a broad spectrum of people in all parties. How many times have we heard such and such party is a broad church. Mogg and his cohort of Brexiteers should really be in with someone like a UKIP. Corbyn and the leftists with the Workers Party or a Communist party.
Both parties should clearly split. But with the FPTP system, they can only do it if both agree at same time. Otherwise if one splits, the other is pretty much guaranteed a decent majority government, even if they lose some vote %

Of course, they could change the voting system, but I donít think the Brits could handle that. Even though weíve had it for donkeys, thereís still a huge amount of voters who stop at 1.

They held a referendum on the voting system. Lib Dems (who it would benefit the most) pushed for it as part of the coalition. It was rejected.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: February 20, 2019, 03:05:04 PM »
It's a really risky strategy for these MPs and most will probably pay with their jobs at the next election. It OK being a Tory candidate going up against Lab, Lib Dems etc but it's another being an Independent going up against them all. That's why we see a broad spectrum of people in all parties. How many times have we heard such and such party is a broad church. Mogg and his cohort of Brexiteers should really be in with someone like a UKIP. Corbyn and the leftists with the Workers Party or a Communist party.


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General discussion / Re: Islamic Jihadists ISIS
« on: February 20, 2019, 02:58:44 PM »
It's a blatantly sexist stunt as well. Hundreds of males have returned to the UK and the vast majority had no action taken against them, hardly noticed, but  soon as a young teen bride appears on the scene the media does a frenzy attack then the scum of the earth vent their spleen against her and that's not just on this board.

It' was a well known recruitment ploy in order  to lure muslim males out to join up with ISIS, where gullible teen females  were already waiting for them and marry them. If a sex starved muslim male wanted a bride all he had to do was travel to Syria and sign up to ISIS, financial bonuses were even provided for babies.  But now all the moralisers can do is jump on their high horses incandescent with outrage and attack the young woman, meanwhlie there are probably many hundreds of known, already returned  to the UK, ISIS male fighters just carrying on with their lives and not a peep of outrage, no sky,itv, uk times reporters recording your every naive word, twisting the words and splashing it out on headlines for an all too gullible public.

#metoo

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: February 20, 2019, 09:34:42 AM »
Mary Lou showing total disregard for fair employment legislation with her pronouncement on new Chief Constable. Irrespective of your position on this you can not legally discard someone based on your political beliefs. Shows a Fianna Fail level of understanding of the North.

To dismiss her comments as silly or ill judged is incorrect. This was a deliberate and well thought out response coming from those at the very top. They're trying to influence the selection process. A weak or inexperienced Chief Constable will play into SF's largest supporters as there is no doubt a lot of money to be made post Brexit with new border tariffs.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: February 19, 2019, 10:11:09 PM »
What is it with America politics where a bunch of old foggies regularly  make a run for president.. These people should be long retired. And younger vibrant persons running for president.. That clown Trump incoherent at the best of times and another retiree running things is the last thing America needs. after Coco the clown is voted out.

It's America. It's a very fucked up place.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: February 19, 2019, 08:43:47 PM »
Bayern are shite. Jesus Liverpool should hockey them. Any other result will feel like a defeat.

Six leagues in a row....many a team would love to be that 'shite'

German leagues. How many have Celtic won and they're not exactly setting the Champions League on fire.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: February 19, 2019, 08:30:51 PM »
I think Utd should wait till the end of the season and make a decision on OGS then but this craic that they've beaten no one and it's been an easy run etc. People should remember these were games Utd regularly lost over this past 4 or 5 years. So winning them is a significant improvement.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: February 19, 2019, 07:55:08 PM »
Bayern are shite. Jesus Liverpool should hockey them. Any other result will feel like a defeat.

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General discussion / Re: Islamic Jihadists ISIS
« on: February 19, 2019, 07:54:10 PM »
It'll be interesting to see what happens. While I have no love for her and think she should spend a significant amount of time in prison, I believe that should be a UK prison.

Wonder what nationality the child is in this scenario? Syrian? British?

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General discussion / Re: Islamic Jihadists ISIS
« on: February 19, 2019, 07:27:52 PM »
Where will she go now that her citizenship has been revoked? Bangladesh?

I understand her Mother holds a Bangladeshi passport, not sure if she does.

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General discussion / Re: Islamic Jihadists ISIS
« on: February 19, 2019, 07:17:54 PM »
The UK have effectively shredded her citizenship leaving her stateless. I never knew this could be done unless the person was a dual citizen.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: February 19, 2019, 05:01:53 PM »
Honda gonna close the Swindon plant.

Strong and Stable, eh Theresa?

Really not sure of the Honda link to Brexit. And there is no need to manufacture a link for there will be plenty of cases where the link is concrete.

Surely obvious link is tariffs. If Japan has a better trade deal with EU, why manufacture in U.K. for cars sold in Europe. They are hardly going to come out and blame Brexit and get embroiled in social media spats like Airbus. Not their culture.

But they are withdrawing manufacturing from Europe. It isnít financially viable to manufacture in Europe either inside or outside the EU

If the plant was inside the EU with frictionless JIT component delivery they may not have closed it. The EU/JP deal has meant they could get round the complexities off a UK outside the EU.

Rumour and conjecture. I am no fan of Brexit but they have been quite clear this is not a Brexit related decision.

I am not saying Brexit was the reason, but it will have been a factor.
They came to the UK for EU access and they now have it vi the EU/JP deal so that will have been a bigger factor. They no longer need an EU location to get their cars into the EU and by making them in Japan they are creating or maintaining Japanese jobs.

The potential extra friction on an already marginal plant in a location they no longer needed could not have been an irrelevancy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47287386

"This is not a Brexit-related issue for us, it's being made on the global-related changes I've spoken about.

"We've always seen Brexit as something we'll get through, but these changes globally are something we will have to respond to. We deeply regret the impact it will have on the Swindon community"

Swindon wasn't that big of a factory. It made one line of cars. It needed a lot of investment for a changinf market.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: February 19, 2019, 03:52:46 PM »
Honda gonna close the Swindon plant.

Strong and Stable, eh Theresa?

Really not sure of the Honda link to Brexit. And there is no need to manufacture a link for there will be plenty of cases where the link is concrete.

Surely obvious link is tariffs. If Japan has a better trade deal with EU, why manufacture in U.K. for cars sold in Europe. They are hardly going to come out and blame Brexit and get embroiled in social media spats like Airbus. Not their culture.

But they are withdrawing manufacturing from Europe. It isnít financially viable to manufacture in Europe either inside or outside the EU

If the plant was inside the EU with frictionless JIT component delivery they may not have closed it. The EU/JP deal has meant they could get round the complexities off a UK outside the EU.

Rumour and conjecture. I am no fan of Brexit but they have been quite clear this is not a Brexit related decision.

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