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GAA Discussion / Re: Your countyís toughest defeat to stomach
« on: August 17, 2018, 10:17:48 AM »
As an Armagh fan, plenty to choose from. For me it was actually the 1992 All Ireland Minor Final, as that came at a time when the thought of any All Ireland title just seemed like a pipe dream, and yet here we were with the best Minor side in the country, by a proverbial mile, and leading by two points going into injury time. Devastating.

At Senior level, I would include the 2000 All Ireland semi-final replay (and extra time) loss to Kerry, as again it looked like our dream of a Senior All Ireland had gone forever. However it would be pipped by the Fermanagh disaster in 2004. I would have laughed at anyone, prior to that match, who would have said Fermanagh would beat us. Absolutely everything that could go wrong that day, did go wrong, and we still were only beat by a point. I've said it many times - the day we beat Fermanagh in the 2008 Ulster Final replay - that there was not a supporter from either side present who would not have willingly swapped the 2004 and 2008 results.

Football - a cruel mistress

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: August 16, 2018, 03:07:24 PM »
Dublin's biggest weakness (yes...i know) is a weakness under a high ball onto their full back line - would there be a chance that Tyrone throw Colm Cavanagh up there for periods of the final? It's a potential way through - you lose what he does anchoring the defence but against Dublin in the Super 8 game he was largely rendered irrelevant as Dublin wouldn't actually go through the middle, instead slip down the sides, i.e. Rock pretty much playing out at the corner of goalline/end line.

Would Harte give this a go? I think it's a no go, but a big man in front of Cluxton tends to get him to do strange things like the Comer goal last Saturday - maybe a pity Tyrone don't have a 'big' natural forward.

If he wasn't in there holding the middle they'd probably go straight through it. Though maybe anyone in there would be enough to make them avoid it. Either way Colm Cavanagh is such a key part of the defensive set up I don't think he could risk moving him at this stage. We have seen less ball kicked in there as the season has went on and R Donnelly role as ball winner has become less effective. I think I'd start McAliskey and Harte up front with Bradley playing of them. Lee Brennan to come on with 20 minutes to go.

I was thinking this the other day. For certain periods of the game, say 7 min spells I would def put Colm in the full forward line. Start McAliskey and Bradley up front, bring Colm up for periods and pump quality high ball in. With Colm and McAliskey hopefully winning the ball a quick player like Bradley would be through on goal. Cooper and Phily are prone to fouling players but seem to get away with it. This would cause them a nightmare.

Bring brennan on for the 2nd half. I dont think hes fit enough due to a lack of game time this year to start.

The only other radical surprise would be to bring back Sean Cav and put him in full forward. Doubt this would happen though due to the comments he has made but remember in 08 mickey brought back Stephen O'Neill just for the final that year.

How can someone be so stupid to actually think that and then commit it to a forum for the world to see  :o :o :o

That was a bit harsh lol. I said it was radical. I do think they are going to have to try something completely new to suprise the dubs. Seems the dubs have the measure of us so a curve ball wouldn't hurt their chances.

Put out the 95 team. That would shock them!

It would probably shock the 95 team as well!!

Throw in Joe Mallon at CB, Plunkett Donaghy MF and Damien O'Hagan FF. Real curve balls.


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Uniting Ireland by forcing protestants to be Irish
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Why the GAA should raise money for Multi Millionaire professional footballers and be happy about it

Ah, come on now! The people voted with their feet.

34 pages. I'd say it's a popular topic.

You all realise a committee of people looked at fouls for a good period of time and came up with the black card?

Player running through on goal. Clothes-lined completely out of, high and dangerous tackle. You want a Black card = replaced and available next match.
Proper action should be straight red = team down to 14 and suspended for 4 weeks.
Accidental high tackle = yellow card

It's just the typical shite you get on this board. Ideas written up on the back of a fag packet. God forbid you'd point out the stupidity of these ideas.

From now on anyone who commits any foul anywhere should get a black card. 

Trailer you muppets read what I said. I said it should be a black not that it was a black.

Clotheslining someone to stop a scoring chance is just as cynical as the things already in the list for a black, it can be more dangerous and as such should be added to the black card list.

Why can people not read what was said before making stupid posts arguing against what wasn't said??

But it can't be Black. Black Card = Cynical Fouls. High tackles aren't cynical. They are dangerous. Hence yellow / red.
And I'm the one who can't read!
More brains in a false face.

GAA Discussion / Re: Gaelic Football RIP
« on: August 16, 2018, 01:09:58 PM »
Antrim should be more competitive. The reason they are not, is down to the administration within the county. Not Money, Not Croke Park, Not Soccer, Not Protestants. The reason lies firmly within the County board.

Young lads in Belfast are more interested in boxing and soccer than playing Gaelic football. Nothing wrong with that of course, but therein lies the problem with Antrim GAA. Those that do stick with the GAA enter into a country v county dynamic on the county team.

Yeah that's fine. My point is more that throwing huge sums of money at the problem won't fix it without a proper strategic plan. There is no quick fix.

He's right though. It's utter shite.

How is it utter shite? Lets break down what I actually said for those at a remedial level such as yourself.

A tackle around the neck should be a black imo.

This is my opinion, I say it right there at the end. How someone's opinion on a matter can be utter shite I don't know.

It's just as cynical,

A man running past you through for a score, you trip him or drag him to the ground and it's a black. If you clothesline him it's just as cynical a way to stop a man.

it's more dangerous

Only a moron would argue that a tackle round the neck in the manner we're seeing is less dangerous than a foot trip or being dragged down by the waist.

and players are doing it now intentionally to avoid a black.

Maybe I should have put "imo" i here but it's obviously just my opinion. I've watched football all my life and played a bit too. I don't ever remember a time when there was 3/4 clothesline type tackles in every game like we see now before the black came in. It would seem that players now can't drag a man down for fear of getting a black and the next easiest way to stop them and only get a yellow is to tackle high.

A high tackle is a yellow card offence. Why? because it's dangerous.
The black card was introduced for cynical play.
Tackling someone around the head is not cynical. It's dangerous.

Yellow / Red - Dangerous play
Black - Cynical

Here are the black card offences again.

The Gaelic Football Rule Changes which become operative on 1 January 2014 are as follows:

1. Introduction of a Black Card for Cynical Behaviour Fouls.
2. Change in the number of substitutes allowed.
3. Distinction between Deliberate and Accidental Fouls.
4. Definition of the Tackle.
5. Introduction of a clearer Advantage Rule.
6. A player in possession may score a point with an open-handed hand-pass.

Cynical Behaviour Fouls

1. Deliberately pull down an opponent.
2. Deliberately trip an opponent with the hand(s), arm, leg or foot.
3. Deliberately body collide with an opponent after he has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking him out of a movement of play.
4. Threaten or to use abusive or provocative language or gestures to an opponent or a teammate.
5. Remonstrate in an aggressive manner with a Match Official.

The penalty for the above fouls are:

i. Free Kick from where the foul occurred.
ii. Order Off offender by showing him a Black Card*.
iii. Allow a replacement from within the substitutions permitted*.
ē Increased to SIX per team.
ē Maximum of THREE permitted for Black Card Offenders.


Why everyone should stop watching Gaelic football
Rule changes needed in Gaelic football. No matter how stupid, they must be implemented for the greater good
Uniting Ireland by forcing protestants to be Irish
Gaelic football tactics for beginners
Why the GAA should raise money for Multi Millionaire professional footballers and be happy about it

GAA Discussion / Re: Football team of the 90s
« on: August 16, 2018, 12:50:25 PM »
God when you hear some of the names being bandied about it makes you wonder how anyone watched football in the 90's.
Henry Downey
Greg Blayney
Paul Curran
Keith Barr
James Nallon
Charlie Redmond

Wouldn't get within an asses roar of any good team nowadays. In hindsight they were very average footballers. Of their time I suppose.

GAA Discussion / Re: Gaelic Football RIP
« on: August 16, 2018, 12:25:42 PM »
Antrim should be more competitive. The reason they are not, is down to the administration within the county. Not Money, Not Croke Park, Not Soccer, Not Protestants. The reason lies firmly within the County board. 

GAA Discussion / Re: Gaelic Football RIP
« on: August 15, 2018, 11:19:07 AM »
The time it would take to reset into 6-2-6 for every kickout would waste a lot of time. You're a point down heading into injury time. The opposition has the kickout, the half forward who tracked his man back now takes an age to walk up to his position. This is another idea that will not work.

General discussion / Re: The Offical Glasgow Celtic thread
« on: August 15, 2018, 11:13:44 AM »
Think Celtic will struggle to get into the Europa League. The away leg could be very tricky.

GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 15, 2018, 10:21:44 AM »
Likely ref?
Gough or Branagan would be my guess.

Anthony Nolan did a good job at the weekend.

He's right though. It's utter shite.

GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« on: August 14, 2018, 03:41:38 PM »
True Orchard.
Anyway this should upset a few

"Tyrone are unlikely saviours. Unlikely and unlovely. Yesterday against Monaghan their sledging, diving, playacting, pulling, dragging, snarling, cribbing side was much in evidence. They could not be more different from Dublin, a skilful, athletic, sporting, attractive, exhilarating marvel of a team"

What a load of tosh Dublin have the 3 worst perpetrators of what is he is talking about in John Small, Johnny Cooper and Philly McMahon. Tyrone have no one in comparison and there was very little of what he was talking about on show yesterday by either team. But sure using a cheap stereotype conceived by a sore loser prob works to make a point so lets jump on it.

Colm Cavanagh taken out by the sniper in the crowd was he? I assume with your poor eyesight you missed all the card waving at the referee after fouls. Loads of verbals off the ball stuff going on during the game on sunday.

Itís unbelievable how people only see one way on these things. The Dubs are the masters at everything you have just posted about. Particularly throwing themselves down, getting a roar from the Hill, an easy free for Rock and the scoreboard ticks over. If you think Cooper and the lads donít give verbals then you are a blinkered fool.

I'm well aware Cooper is well able to dish out the verbals. Unfortunately it's something Tyrone introduced to the game along with alot of other cynical tactics that make it hard to watch at times.

 In fairness to Mayo while they could never beat Dublin at least they went man on man and had a go. It is as other posters pointed out the only way to beat Dublin.

I was hoping Monaghan would reach the final. At least then it would have be more of a spectacle. Nothing enjoyable about watching Tyrone put 14/15 men behind the ball and then handpass it up the pitch. It's supposed to be FOOTBALL not handball.  They quality of shooting & kick passing in the semi final on Sunday was shockingly bad for a semi final.  The problem for Tyrone is that if they are so used to the blanket defence and defending with numbers that their defenders don't have to defend man to man.

It's a sad state of affairs that a team's strategy like Tyrone becomes f**ked if they go 3/4 points down. Only 2 things can happen in a game. You either go behind or ahead so to play dublin and have no plan for what happens if you go behind early is a joke.


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