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General discussion / Re: The WINE thread
« on: October 17, 2018, 07:36:03 PM »
Might try and give this wine craic a go (on the back of reading people's drinking trends on here recently).  Now as a good lurgan man i of course had my years of drinking the finest Buckfast and even on the odd occasion got a low numbered bottle ;) but i never ventured into more sophisticated stuff.

Any recommendations for a newcomer? I think i would like to stick to the red stuff, unless of course persuaded otherwise.

Chilean Merlot is a decent place to start........coming from someone who has just started and knows no differently

Try and stick to the Spanish, Italian , or French reds, reduced hangovers (providing you don't drink two bottles) New world wine is cheaper but as Ive said very often on here Tesco and other shops run a 25% discount for 6 or more, which will on average give you good bottles of wines for a fiver!

I'll give you a few types later

With meat an Australian Shiraz is good. I only like red with food (meat mostly). Malbec, Pinot noir (Delta NZ is good).
With white it is hard to beat a NZ Marlborough.

Key thing with wine is, if YOU like the taste of it then that's all that matters. A £5 bottle can be every bit as good as a £50 bottle. It's to your taste.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Violence in Adult Club Football
« on: October 17, 2018, 01:14:42 PM »
Don't understand how they can't issue suspensions based on the video evidence. They have the team sheets so identifying the culprits shouldn't be a problem.

Unless there is an official video that we haven't seen?

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General discussion / Re: What's your relationship with alcohol?
« on: October 16, 2018, 05:09:38 PM »
I have an OK relationship with it. When I was younger I did it all. I lived in Belfast and worked in an OK job were we partied most weekends. I'd travel home for games on Sunday morning usually still hungover but managed to keep a starting spot fairly much nailed down. I have calmed down a good bit since, thankfully. Wife and Kids are good for that.
I enjoy a glass or two of wine most weekends in the house and if I am away with family I'll have a pint or two of stout, but that's it. The odd Wedding or lash with lads sure enough I'll take one to many but the Friday, Saturday, Sunday binges of my youth are well gone.

I enjoy relaxing at the weekend with a few glasses of wine after a hard week. But I can take it or leave it for the most part.

I had a worse relationship with the fags but thankfully have kicked that habit a few years ago.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: October 11, 2018, 10:48:16 PM »
I can't believe that the farming community aren't giving the DUP hell around their stance.

Northern Irish agri / dairy is sold on the basis of us maintaining EC standards.  After next March how do the third countries update their required standards to say that UK standards are acceptable?  Will they need to be tested / audited? And if so, how long will that take?
What happens before those standards are changed?

In terms of other sectors effected:

In the material handling sector (a sector where NI, and specifically Tyrone lead the world) the equipment tends to confirm with the EC Machinery Directive, and is CE marked accordingly.  The body that is attesting that the equipment applies to the CE standard needs to be based in the EU.  This will really complicate things for the manufacturing sector.

The aerospace industry is very tightly regulated and is governed by the European Aviation and Safety Agency (EASA).  Again will UK manufacturers be able to supply parts to be used in planes as they will be outside of EASA?

Dairy farmers nearly all to a man voted leave. Red tape, being told what to do and when to do it by Brussels being the main reasons. And you know what? They are dead right. Regardless of what happens the UK government will support them. So for the farming sector there is probably no downside.
Personally I'd love to see the bundle of hungry c***ts being put on the side of the road, but that's unlikely.

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General discussion / Re: Clerical abuse!
« on: October 11, 2018, 09:08:06 PM »
He taught in St Patrick's Grammar Armagh and later became Principal of St Patrick's Academy in Dungannon replacing Father Faul.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: October 11, 2018, 02:26:32 PM »
Any chance Corbyn could topple the Tories, take power in a GE, back a new referendum, win it and take up the old mantle of the British in the EU.

If he pulled it off he’d have some serious political capital to spend both with an EU who’d owe him for overturning Brexit and at home where he’d have successfully trumped two major plebisciles and cemented a avid leftist voter base for overturning Brexit.

Corbyn hates the EU more than some of the Tories. Corbyn isn't going to reverse Brexit.

People need to get real here. There's a lot of posturing by everyone, EU, DUP, Brexiters in the Tory party. However, Brexit is happening and will happen. What we're realistically hoping for is a Brexit that's "not to bad". Lets get real here. This is happening, it's unlikely a leadership challenge will happen in the Tory party and it's even more unlikely there will be a GE. There simply isn't time being one of the main reasons. We can hope for a softening of positions all round in the next few weeks and that we don't come out of this too badly.


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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: October 11, 2018, 02:22:13 PM »
A lot of Labour heartlands voted for Brexit.

Corbyn needs to walk a tightrope
polls are saying most of them would now vote Remain

Interesting, any polls I have seen is that the leave and remain votes have barely changed, and if anything have become more entrenched.

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General discussion / Re: Ashers cake controversy.
« on: October 11, 2018, 02:20:19 PM »
Why deny it to someone  and their mother?
Yeah because that's the same thing  ::) Tell me is there a significant number of people hiding in the closet who want to get off with their son/mother/father/daughter? Are they meeting up in underground nightclubs with other mother and son couples? What part of Armagh are you from  ;D.

There are some, the exact number is not the point. 

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Here do us all a favour and stick your mask back on and spare us your homophobic bile dressed up as pseudo religious waffle.

Ah yes, the usual resort to abuse, a clear sign that your argument does not stand on its own merit.
Incidentally, which point did I make that was "pseudo religious"?

Wow. This incestuous line is a smokescreen.
Incest is unlawful as it can lead to defects in reproduction and is dangerous for the children. This is widely known.
Underage sex or marriage is also outlawed as one or both of the parties involved may not be of a mature age to make and informed decision.
None of these can be translated to reason for the banning of gay marriage.

Do you know where the concept of marriage came from? Do you understand the concept? And it's background? And why it is still used today?
You are terribly vocal on a subject you seem to be so poorly informed on. Very sad.

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General discussion / Re: Ashers cake controversy.
« on: October 11, 2018, 11:57:19 AM »
A sordid campaign according to you. You let the mask slip there a bit, but sure nothing to do with God or your beliefs....


Took the words out of my mouth

I believe that a campaign to undermine marriage, a fundamental building block of human society, is sordid.
God didn't tell me that.

If you think two people of the same sex getting married undermine's Marriage then you have no understanding of what Marriage is and where the concept of Marriage came from.
Before we can go forward, you must look back.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Violence in Adult Club Football
« on: October 11, 2018, 10:15:08 AM »
Would you go to the peelers if your son was absolutely hammered by a thug on the pitch?

Would not. And would look down on anyone that did.

So if someone assaulted your child on the street you’d do nothing?

You asked about the pitch? Is it the street or pitch? Where is it happening?

Is there a difference where someone is assaulted? What about watching a game? In the stand?

Surely assault is assault no matter where it is?



In my mind no it's not the same. There's plenty of digs thrown during the course of games down through the years, that would constitute assault. But they were and remain part and parcel of the game.

Digs in a game, that happens, you hope the ref will deal with that, but an assault (which is what I have been posting, and the thread title) is when two or more players start punching and kicking the f**k out of someone which results in damage to that person, you’d look down on someone reporting it?

I suppose if that’s the norm round your way then play on. Dirty Joe punches are a part of the game!

But where do you draw the line? My dig could be your assault? Slippery slope. Did Paidi assault yer man from Cork? Or what about Diarmuid Marsden on Philly Jordan?
Poor example as Marsden didn't lay a finger on Jordan.

No he laid 10 on him.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: October 10, 2018, 09:10:31 PM »
Where would you get a list of the clubs in order of the year they were formed?

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General discussion / Re: Ashers cake controversy.
« on: October 10, 2018, 03:23:15 PM »
Supreme court rules in favour of Asher's.

I think that's the correct outcome. You should be allowed to accept or decline any work you see fit.
Well said.

But if we take that to it’s conclusion then you have a situation whereby for example everyone refuses to do work that’s requested only by a particularly minority which is discrimination.

Ok - someone wants you to do some plumbing work for them, let's say a black gay woman who is protestant. But you know they're a slow payer and you're a bit busy. You say no. Is that then discrimination?
Just because you're Gay, or Black, or a Woman or a Catholic or a Muslim or whatever and someone says no to you, you don't automatically have an equality case. Sometimes people just don't want to do it and you have to be fine with that and move on to the next plumber or baker or whatever.
The equality commission probably took this case in the first instance because they feared that if they didn't they'd be sued by the... er... the equality commission. It's really time someone called stop on all this madness.
Where a case exists, in clear instances yes it should rightly be prosecuted but if someone refuses TO DO WORK FOR YOU, then I think people need to wise up.

No that wouldn’t be discrimination as the reason they are asking for plumbing work is nothing to do with their race, colour sexual orientation etc. Today’s ruling in no way effects that. You could have refused that work yesterday and you can refuse today.

The reason the Ashers case is different is because the support gay marriage logo is almost exclusively only to be requested either by those of the LGBT community or those who’s political beliefs equate to support of gay marriage. Therefore the refusal to provide it couple with having to objection to providing a contrary slogan amounts to discrimination. In my view indirect discrimination in the original view direct discrimination

The key bit is that they didn't want to do the work. They were prepared to serve him, but they didn't want to that particular piece of work. That's not discrimination, that's just not wanting to do that piece of work.

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General discussion / Re: Ashers cake controversy.
« on: October 10, 2018, 02:38:19 PM »
Supreme court rules in favour of Asher's.

I think that's the correct outcome. You should be allowed to accept or decline any work you see fit.
Well said.

But if we take that to it’s conclusion then you have a situation whereby for example everyone refuses to do work that’s requested only by a particularly minority which is discrimination.

Ok - someone wants you to do some plumbing work for them, let's say a black gay woman who is protestant. But you know they're a slow payer and you're a bit busy. You say no. Is that then discrimination?
Just because you're Gay, or Black, or a Woman or a Catholic or a Muslim or whatever and someone says no to you, you don't automatically have an equality case. Sometimes people just don't want to do it and you have to be fine with that and move on to the next plumber or baker or whatever.
The equality commission probably took this case in the first instance because they feared that if they didn't they'd be sued by the... er... the equality commission. It's really time someone called stop on all this madness.
Where a case exists, in clear instances yes it should rightly be prosecuted but if someone refuses TO DO WORK FOR YOU, then I think people need to wise up. 


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General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« on: October 10, 2018, 01:57:32 PM »
Don't find it creepy at all, rather touching
It's downright weird.

"You know what would be a great idea and your dress wouldn't be wasted. That's right wear it to the graveside for a photo shoot and afterwards we'll Photoshop in the ghostly apparition of your dead fiance." Normal!

Losing one's fiance to a sudden, tragic death a few months before the wedding date is not "normal".

Who are we to say what was the appropriate way for her to mark what would have been one of the highlights of her life?

More of a lowlight. Anyway, at least she got to wear the dress, so not a complete waste.

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General discussion / Re: Ashers cake controversy.
« on: October 10, 2018, 01:51:51 PM »
Supreme court rules in favour of Asher's.

I think that's the correct outcome. You should be allowed to accept or decline any work you see fit.

Well, no, you shouldn't. Discrimination is wrong, period. What the ruling effectively says is that this wasn't discrimination.

Yes you should. And the supreme court agrees.

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