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I'm a neutral as regards the result of this tie, but I think this suspension is a disgrace. Coles arm was being impeded (not necessarily illegally) and he threw back his arm to shrug off the player. Theres four or five of these incidents in every game, sometimes the arm connects, sometimes not - in this case it connected with hartes face, so depending on interpretation ref could well give a yellow card for it, as he did, end of. Usually theres no penalty. There certainly shouldnt be a ban, it wasnt a deliberate attempt to elbow harte in the face.
And that 'by the letter of the law' stuff is rubbish - it doesn't and can't ever apply to gaelic football. FFS our tackle is a series of 'by the letter of the law' strikes to the opponents body!

Lisbellaw,

now heres an interesting one.

I know that lisbellaw hurling club is infact not in lisbellaw (correct me if im wrong) but i heard that the club is called lisbellaw so that it would piss off the unGAA town called Lisbellaw.

Only what i heard.

Dont know why its called Lisbellaw, its always confused me, and this seems the likeliest reason 
A lot of their hurlers would play football for maguiresbridge (which isn't much greener) as well as the other clubs mentioned. Dont think any of the hurlers would actually say they were from lisbellaw, ballyhaise man is spot on!

Ballinamallard hasnt got a GAA club, wouldnt be much call for one either...

[it took a while. Ended up with 2 points]

Played one game in my life. A west v east st. patrick's day match at university.

I really enjoyed it. I thought being a decent enough soccer/football player I'd pick it up no bother, but it took a while. Ended up with 2 points (and about 10 wides)

jaysus dont be too hard on yourself - a game isnt that long to pick it up 

Play intermediate club (sporadically this few yrs), played macrory (winners medal & runners up medal), co minor & u-21, no medals though.

Would be very surprised if there isnt a couple of AI medals on here, or provincial at least... 

Dont rugby school teams go on tours every few yrs, as in the US and places. What way are those funded - bound to cost more than 60k over the yr.

Remember that night well. The most random assembly of people ever. Everone just stood out in Agincourt as if something was going to happen!

Alex maskey thought he was back in the civil rights era and thought an inspiring speech was what needed to sort the crowd out. Big success that was

To be fair the stuff in the original story is completely exaggerated. But i'll add my belief that the sweeping generalisation that its all Tyrone and Armagh wans who have been dazzled by the bright lights and their mammy's aren't there to tell them off, so just go off the rails!

In saying that our house became the first house ever in the Holylands to be dragged up in front to the Vice chancellor. (case of bad timing, with QUB needing to do something after spotlight and we were first in line!)
Made BBC News online and everything!
(everything was in safe hands with the infamous VP of Club and societies representing us in that meeting

That was in f**king Cadogan Steet too! Hardly the epicentre of craic in the Holylands!

Was there too, but way I rem it was Maskey basically telling the students to fcuk off to bed, and everyone cheering him as though he'd said something great. Said VP should have put the students side across; doesnt he have some ridiculous tagline like 'the man they couldnt silence' for a column? Was quiet enough that night. Was in cadogan for a while too, but had mnanners when I was there. And aye, I reckon its all tyrone and armagh ones too.

Football isn't a static game, if it was it would die out. It evolves like everything else. Theres no such thing as 'puke football' or any other type, its all just football. Tactics are becoming more and more a part of the game, its not a good or bad thing, its just the way it is.
With regards formation, unless you've managed to land a county job, its the same as it always was. Try to find 6 defenders, put the more mobile ones on the wing, the biggest iin fb, and the best footballer in chb. Then get two mobile strong, accurate, good fielders and put them in mf. You prob wont find one of these players, so alternatively put the tallest lad in, and then the closest you have to a fit all-round player. Then get 6 forwards, put the smallest/greediest in corner forward, the best all-round footballer of these 6 in chf, and mobile players on the wing. Agsin, tal lad in ff. And sin e!
The changing tactics really only come into play at higher levels, like soccer even; I play a bit and have never played anything but 442 - its never even discussed.

Jim lands back on friday night airlocked, with a sheep under his arm. He climbs the stairs and throws open the bedroom door and stamps in, where his wife (raging) is waiting for him. Wobbling a bit, he announces 'This is the pig I have sex with when you're too tired!'.
The wife, never one to let anything pass; 'I think you'll find thats a sheep'.
Jim: 'I think you'll find, i was talking to the sheep...'

I guarantee Omagh CBS didnt spend money on expensive Bonding sessions to other countries the year they won the Hogan Cup.

TYP was on this thread,im sure he can confirm that.

Wasn't there a Football team that came north on a tour in preparation for Senior Colleges football- staying over for the weekend.  I think TYP reported that they played Omagh, I remember thinking that was the first time I'd heard of a football team going to those levels.

Schools football is big business....
Weekends away going for quite a while - we went to tuam to play a few schools round there.
Then when I got to third yr at college, one of my lecturers was John Kremer, the sports psych interviewed in the irish news there recently, and he was telling me he was at my old school a few times since to meet the macrory boys. This would have been 3/4 yrs ago, when it was really only the county teams starting to look into this level of preparation.

heard of albino condition before but dont think i have ever seen a human with it,every time hes in shot find my self staring at him,fc*k he would freak me out if i was in there.

Not surprised hes been arrested '...at least five times' - identity parades must be a bastard for him.
Best scenario I can think of is to tell the housemates that there are certain camera/mike free areas, this of course being a lie, it would be great to see them being the pricks they really are when they think they're not on tv.
That asian one is insane, theres no way shes gonna last the series; i predict suicide watch within two weeks

Westmeath
Down (Bonus)
Louth (Bonus)

For the half that isnt tongue in cheek  , I think thats an important part. It may have been v handy for the marketing company - if in doubt lash the name onto everything in sight, but perhaps the link between the GAA and the events that go on around the country, moreso the likes of the cul camps than the big games, isnt as obvious to those who arent into GAA, as it is to us. For some people, the only time they read about the GAA is when its on the front pages for a brawl, or some fcuk-up with suspensions, this should make them a bit more aware of ther other part...

Agree completely, theres a serious lack of accountability. The whole suspension process is a joke. It is ridiculous that it is time periods rather than games, so 2 players given different sentences in all likelihood receive the same punishment. And ok, the ref has to be protected, but there is a big difference between verbals and doing what McQuaid did, as said, no matter how 'bad' the verbals were. After watching that ref, I'd imagine he's well used to receiving abuse too, I thought he was v poor (though incidentally he was right in the decision against finlay, which is what I assume set him off)

Wasnt at the armagh fermanagh game, was only a caddy...but have heard enough about it since. Everyone in fermanagh who's ever had anything to do with the GAA knows the name Denis Holywood - its like the bogeyman. He took Queens freshers then when I was there, and turned out to be sound tho. Still....the bastard!

In all seriousness but, some of the anti social behaviour, vandalism etc aroudn the holylands is a disgrace. once i seen the UUJ bus-stop destroyed by graffitti. it said:

DONT FORGET YOUR CRAYONS

imagine the holylands residents having their locality damaged by shite like that. bet you the perpetrator is one of these boys who thinks the students are blameless for the problem too 

Seen on the toilet roll holder in Queens Students Union: 'JORDANSTOWN DEGREES - PLEASE TAKE ONE'
Clearly the education shows 

Speaking of immature shite....

I dont think the residents are entirely blameless apart from anything else  some of the comments in that article make them look like right wankers.

Maybe they're not, but i'd find it hard to be rational if i lived in there permanently.

Yes, but on the other hand, the residents cause the students a lot of problems. What about all the craic with the paint stripper being poured over cars on Agincourt at the beginning of the 06/07 term for example?

Cant be bothered to read through the article again but I would seriously doubt the gravity of some of these 'assaults.' Strange for the police not acting upon some of those claims 

The paint-stripper on cars was mentioned in a side column of the article in the paper.
You doubt that assaults happen on the basis that the police didn't act on such claims? Such a possibility is really beyond comprehension?

Yeah I have never heard of any of these stories they have mentioned, if this went on then people would defiitely be talking about it for ages!

But you're hearing them now.  Why would you necessarily have heard them all before?

Asking hypothetical questions doesnt make you appear all knowing, quite the opposite in fact. You started this thread saying perhaps students were an easy target, then you lay into them. They are easy targets; they dont vote in south belfast. and that instantly means they are at a disadvantage. I can see both sides of the argument, and have already stated that the onus is on the students, but if its gonna be turned into a one sided attack on the students, then I'll go for their side.
Firstly, a lot of the residents who live in the holylands are scumbags, and live there because of its anonymous nature, anbd the fact they've being forced out of elsewhere. If you can generalise about students, then I can generalise about residents.
Secondly, yes I seriously doubt the assault claims. Whatever about police following it up, if there have being complaints, then these will have being logged. Its shoddy journalism of the highest degree not to go and ask about the number etc of these complaints, and the lack of this corroroborating evidence places the story in doubt.
Thirdly, I wopuld expect to have heard about these stories. If they are newsworthy 2 months later then they are newsworthy at the time, in particular the coffin story, andf yet the first mention is well after the event. Smells of bullshit.

You had a good student experience, and never did any of this. Grand. I'm putting it to you that neither do the vast majority of students, and you should get off your high horse. If it is true as has been claimed, that the writer is a resident of the holylands, then I would suggest that this is an amalgamation of events, and not the typical day as is suggested. It has been sensationalised, and thus lost the chance to put across a good piece highlighting the problems of the area, of which there are many.