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General discussion / Re: BBC NI Bias?
« on: August 23, 2019, 09:03:21 AM »
To be fair a caller was pretty bitter and derogatory towards Claire Hanna today and William Crawley was straight on it, called him out and shut him down.  And so he should of course.

He didn't shut him down. The caller insulted her personally twice, didn't contribute anything but abuse towards her, and Crawley (who is one of the better ones) just kept trying to get him to ask a q instead of cutting him straight off. He was on for two minutes, and Crawley just let him tail off without saying something about it as he should have.


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General discussion / Re: BBC NI Bias?
« on: August 20, 2019, 12:36:39 PM »
Agree wholeheartedly. and actually feel it has been getting worse over the last couple of years, perhaps as possibility of UI moves closer. I read Martin Dillons book on his life as a journalist (with the BBC for some time) lately, and it made clear the entrenched unionism in the BBC - a desire by top brass to 'meet one of them' (a loyalist killer), parties in the office on the 12th to watch parades etc - it seemed to have  moved on a bit, but now I'm not so sure at all.

Arlene on this morning saying must condemn violence whenever it is, rolling her eyes the night before at the murder of McAnespie, and posing with Para banners. That hypocrisy should have been pulled straight away.

Are any of their senior presenters nationalist? Certainly the major programmes are unionist, in ranging degrees of staunchness - Thompson, Nolan, Conor Bradford. There's often very little balance.


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Deegan cost Tyrone the game. Say what you want re what Tyrone should have done better, and always likely to a dodgy decision or two, but I watched the game again and it was about a 6 point swing directly attributable to very bad decisions from Deegan. Its as bad a one-sided (in that you'll see refs just being bad for both teams) reffin performance as I've seen. Tyrone did well to keep their cool imo.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Why are non-Tyrone people obsessed about Tyrone?
« on: August 14, 2019, 04:24:35 PM »
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-if-tyrone-put-as-much-into-football-as-the-dark-arts-they-d-be-some-team-1.3985286
Complete clickbait headline.
A nonsense article too from the usually decent O'se

The headline isn't based on the article. The headine is very anti-tyrone though, which gives precedence to the thread title. Is it partitionism and just manifests via tyrone as only northern team successful enough to bother anyone?
The headline is taken from a quote O'Se made in the article

"Christ, if they put as much thought and brain-power into the actual football as they do into all the other stuff, they’d be some team"

That was regards a player trying to get free for a short free, not in reference to any 'dark arts'.

'I thought of him a bit on Sunday watching Tyrone. There was one stage where a substitution was being made and one of their players came over to the sideline pretending to be the one coming off the pitch before doubling back on himself in the confusion to show for a free. I was watching this thinking, ‘Christ, if they put as much thought and brain-power into the actual football as they do into all the other stuff, they’d be some team.’

 Its a leap for the sub editor to make the link (and include the McKernan pic) when the only specific ref to dark arts is Tommy Walsh getting wired into Morgan (but sure that was only a bit of craic).

I'm not from Tyrone, and have no love for them, but I do see the bias.


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GAA Discussion / Re: Why are non-Tyrone people obsessed about Tyrone?
« on: August 14, 2019, 02:34:09 PM »
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-if-tyrone-put-as-much-into-football-as-the-dark-arts-they-d-be-some-team-1.3985286
Complete clickbait headline.
A nonsense article too from the usually decent O'se

The headline isn't based on the article. The headine is very anti-tyrone though, which gives precedence to the thread title. Is it partitionism and just manifests via tyrone as only northern team successful enough to bother anyone?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Flat Track Bullies
« on: August 11, 2019, 08:33:01 PM »
I was neutral on the game, but agree completely re Deegan. He brought Kerry back into it, and without doubt changed the result of the game.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: August 11, 2019, 10:30:48 AM »
Oh ffs. Those articles are nonsensical.

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: August 06, 2019, 02:09:25 PM »
It's abit like Trump rabble rousing his so called base, same here, and and we know our opinion on trumps base of supporters.

But what does it say about people who vote SF after their antics?
That there unfortunately is no credible alternative if you want a UI. The SDLP have no one of note or intellect. SF do have saner voices such as O'Dowd, Murphy and Brady. Unfortunately this anti British clown grabs the headlines. Mary Lou is a disappointment as President and Michelle O'Neill is useless.

SF will never deliver a UI and never is a long time. They haven't the ability or skill to persuade those who need persuaded.

They've got us close anyway

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: August 06, 2019, 12:01:11 PM »
It's abit like Trump rabble rousing his so called base, same here, and and we know our opinion on trumps base of supporters.

But what does it say about people who vote SF after their antics?
That there unfortunately is no credible alternative if you want a UI. The SDLP have no one of note or intellect. SF do have saner voices such as O'Dowd, Murphy and Brady. Unfortunately this anti British clown grabs the headlines. Mary Lou is a disappointment as President and Michelle O'Neill is useless.

I think Mary Lou has tried to be progressive, but has perhaps been reined in a bit. Certainly would appear to be at the opposite end of the SF spectrum from Martina.

What it says about SF voters is that they are across a very broad spectrum, and chiefly for the reason apples says. They deserve credit for running on an all island basis, and I'd really like to see the other parties do the same

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: August 05, 2019, 03:00:04 PM »
Sounded like it surely

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: August 05, 2019, 01:07:14 PM »
Would you now?

Would be very interested to hear the basis you have estimated that on.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: August 04, 2019, 10:56:02 AM »
Cop yourself on ‘’SF’s diva requirements’
 The idea is ludicrous on many levels. But as I said, good to see you all have now moved past the abstentionist issue

Explain why it wouldn’t work if each participant played their role?

Cop yourself on ‘’SF’s diva requirements’
 The idea is ludicrous on many levels. But as I said, good to see you all have now moved past the abstentionist issue

Explain why it wouldn’t work if each participant played their role?

It’s very vague as to what actual difference the SF seats would make. There is a majority in the house of commons as it is who oppose no deal don’t forget. In trying to establish that, he outlines a series of very specific events, each of which is as unlikely as the next - for eg over the fact that key to his ‘plan’ there is Jeremy Corbyn stepping aside. Why on earth would that happen?

He is also being much too blasé about the seats being won. It’s a massive risk, you could easily end up strengthening the NI brexiteers hand. The election would come down to unionism v nationalism except potentially with significant numbers of disaffected SF voters. Adding up all the anti brexit numbers to support your assertion that there would be a clear majority is stupid.

It also tramps all over those who voted Sinn Fein and don’t want their MP to stand down for some talking head no matter how cunning the scheme. All well and good to pontificate about the greater good etc, but that was their vote, not yours, and has the right to be respected as much as yours. It’s extremely dubious to be using it in a manner that was never contemplated.

So in summary, massive risk which even if worked, has a minuscule chance of having any tangible effect.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: August 03, 2019, 04:19:34 PM »
Cop yourself on ‘’SF’s diva requirements’
 The idea is ludicrous on many levels. But as I said, good to see you all have now moved past the abstentionist issue

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: August 02, 2019, 11:47:11 PM »
Well given how popular the article is then it’s fair to assume you agree with this bit, so good to see the abstentionist issue put to bed:

‘Sinn Féin holds seven seats at Westminster but leaves them vacant. Calling on the party to take those seats is rhetorically satisfying but pointless. In the first place, it has an impregnable argument for not doing so. It won these seats on an abstentionist platform. And it did so in 2017, when Theresa May was pushing for a very hard Brexit. Its voters knew the dangers and supported abstention anyway. That fact cannot be set aside.

And secondly, even if Sinn Féin was somehow able to make an immediate decision to occupy its seats when the Commons returns in September, the effect would probably be counterproductive. The Brexiteers and their media wing would generate hysteria about the Provos thwarting the will of the British people. Johnson would relish it. Wavering Tories would step back into line.’

Fintan has correctly identified the mandate those MPs were elected on. He goes on to suggest something which is stamps all over that mandate as much as abstentionism does though - stand down to let another party take the seats? Ludicrous.



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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: August 02, 2019, 03:49:03 PM »
Have a good weekend  :)

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