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Tbrick- interested in your analysis.
Who was marking Keaney- 3pts.
who was marking Bernard Brogan who scred 3 pts from play.
who was marking Alan Brogan-3pts from play
some of those playerd weren't as good as you thought.

Don't be so negative!  Good players will always score and the Brogans and Keaney are top class
I thought McGoldrick, McCloy (with a broken finger)and Doc were outstanding in a good Derry performance.  We just needed a bit more composure from the Bradleys.  There was ONE goal chance and 4 point chances that went astray in the last 15mins.  But thats football.  I'm looking forward to next year beginning with a really competitive league campaign.

derry unchanged for sat

Derry: B Gillis, M McGoldrick, K McCloy, G O'Kane, L Hinphey, SM Lockhart, Francis McEldowney, F Doherty, J Conway, M Lynch, P Murphy, E Muldoon, C Devlin, Paddy Bradley, C Gilligan.

I'd say wait to see the team that actualy lines out,  but if he starts that team Croz will have decent subs in K McG, J Diver, 'Skinner', Patsy B and B McGoldrick .... no not Wilkinson !!!!!

Name me ONE team still in the championship that has a FBL that can successfully deal with repetitive 'high diagonal balls'

On the inter-county scene at present, who would you see as the best individuals in those roles and also who are the best collective currently in operation?

That's an impossible task.  It's likely there are lots of talented idividuals in 'lesser' known counties who don't have the top quality players and don't have the big profile.  However, here goes ................


Manager: Mickey Harte (Tyrone)

Coach: (Meath)

Trainer: Martin McElkennon (Monaghan)

Selector: Brian Talty (Dublin)

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No, why do you think short accurate kickouts are so important in the modern game?

Because the mid-field area is generally packed and it is vital that kick-out are varied so that attackes can be set up using alert quick HB's such as O'Kane and McEldowney.  This requires a keeper who can deliver these when appropriate.  Whelan and Ryan are very strong and other options will be required to get the ball to our scoring forwards.  It's common sense really!!!!

What's your point Real Talk? Is the implication that no-one recalls that he was actually a keeper? I think you'll find that its not really that obscure a fact. He's talked about it himself, in more than one interview. I actually remember him playing a League Game for the senior team in goal. In screen (i think), late 90s, dont remember exactly. Maybe someone can verify the actual date.

My point is very simple:  does anyone think he could do a better job than Gillis, given the importance of short, quick, accurate kick-outs in the modern game?

Derry best keeper in the panel is 'Deets'.  He was a brilliant county Minor keeper(remember him scoring a penalty in Clones on a losing team) who could land the ball on a 'sixpence' which would be ideal for quick kick outs .... hardly going to happen is it?

Strange no comment from all the experts on 'Deets' (C Gilligan)

hinphey most likely to go, though would you risk kevin starting when not match fit? 

skinner needs to start / come on very early for devlin - ideal setting for him to come in - dont think any dub defender would be fit for him

Bit of a contradiction there considering Skinner hasn't played in 2 months either.
I think everyone is getting carried away with Skinner ready to step up and becoming the saviour!
Far more likely that Paddy B will step up to the big stage and deliver the goods. People are having Collie Devlin off the team before a ball is kicked. Paddy is not only scoring  he's setting up a lot more than he ever done!

If they reckon McGuckian is fit, i'd play him at Wing-back, and if needs be swap him with Mick McGoldrick.

Devlin's work rate, technical ability, awareness,ability to win frees,fitness and pace makes him a brilliant asset to the Derry forward line.  Skinner should be kept as a sub to replace a tiring Murphy or Lynch.  Derry best keeper in the panel is 'Deets'.  He was a brilliant county Minor keeper(remember him scoring a penalty in Clones on a losing team) who could land the ball on a 'sixpence' which would be ideal for quick kick outs .... hardly going to happen is it?

From a Derry perspective I wouldn't be surprised to see Joe Keenan start ahead of Hinphey thought he did well when he came on against Laois

And where would you play K McGuckin?  I don't think Keenan has the physical strength to mark and deliver at HB against Dublin he's more of a 'corner back'

Yes, I think Dara should get Spillane's job and keep Lyons in Dublin or Mayo anywhere but not on TV

I think Quinn, McHugh should also go with Burns in charge and 2 fresh faces in, say Paddy Heaney and Kevin Madden we needs personalities to brighten up the analysis

The main reason RTE dosn't televise Derry games is because they do not attact large support

I think Monaghan will be mentally and physically well prepared but I would have doubts about their ability to get enough scores. 

Yes, you can get Satanta Ireland through Sky, it does an excellent full coverage of all games inc Minors the week after the games.

I think Lynchbuoy's analysis of the game was correct and I'd also say that the ref hadn't the steel to send a Monaghan man off in his own back yard.  For some years now Cavanagh, Dooher and Mulligan have 'engineered' frees for Tyrone and referees have still not caught on.  Kerry have some excellent players but have always successfully carried a few 'good dirty' ones like A O'Mahony, D O'She and Paul Galvin who rarely get a sustanable 'red' card.  But the reality is that is why they are successfull with the recent Galway team being a rare exception.

I think Kerry and Cork are the top two, fallowed by Tyrone and Dublin the rest are just making up the numbers

Derry team selection and decision making during the game has improved that's why they beat Armagh(who are on the  way down) and Mayo (who are in transition).  They might beat Laois but do not have a good record against them.  Derry need a new management team.  The last two matches demonstarted that the talent is there to make a real impact at National level in 2008.  Its now over to the County Board to make that decision when Derry exit this years competion.