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SFC First Round

Kilcoo v Saval
Rostrevor v Mayobridge
Clonduff v Ballyholland
Loughinisland v Castlewellan
CPN v Annaclone
Downpatrick v Longstone
Glenn v Bryansford
Burren v Ballymartin

IFC First Round

Bosco v Drumaness
Dromara v Glasdrumman
An Riocht v Darragh Cross
Bredagh v Carryduff
Atticall v Liatriom
Shamrocks v St Johns
Saul v Clann na Banna
Tullylish v Kilclief

Does any one have any links to video higlights of the game?

Forgive my ignorance but what the f**k is the centenary cup and shield.

Brick this statement does not surprise me. They were competitions put in place for Division 4 teams to play in during their break from Division 4 fixtures, it was an idea to give them more competitive games due to the lack of teams and therefore fixtures in the division this year. The idea was to have a showpiece evening in Newry for the two finals.

Top 4 were in the cup and bottom 4 were in the shield. All playing each other once with the top 2 competing in the respective finals.

St Paul's didn't field in any of their game for political reason (from what I heard).

Clutch-you're a bollix. "(From what I heard)" You know the reason and are stirring the pot ya dick

Well considering what I heard was not directly from a St Paul's source or club member, I'm not going to quote something I am not 100% certain on. Imagine you go ahead and clear things up for us there then.

Forgive my ignorance but what the f**k is the centenary cup and shield.

Brick this statement does not surprise me. They were competitions put in place for Division 4 teams to play in during their break from Division 4 fixtures, it was an idea to give them more competitive games due to the lack of teams and therefore fixtures in the division this year. The idea was to have a showpiece evening in Newry for the two finals.

Top 4 were in the cup and bottom 4 were in the shield. All playing each other once with the top 2 competing in the respective finals.

St Paul's didn't field in any of their game for political reason (from what I heard).

The Centenary Cup and Shield finals are being played in Newry on Sunday evening.

This is a great occasion for the Division 4 clubs who are involved. Even though the football is not up to the usual standard of the club (not county ) championship games that are traditionally played in Newry; are there be many gaels considering attending these games?

Exactly.
And Tyrone won their 3 all-Ireland's pre-garvaghy.
Is it a case of, Be careful what we wish for?
There appears to be no correlation between centres of excellence and playing success.
The fact that we have been one of the last counties to have a centre , presents us with a challenge to determine what is our best option, what is the best use of resources to Enjoy sustainable playing success.

i was being sarcastic about Derry's performances since they acquired Owenbeg. Schools and Club pitches with floodlights are the way forward with financial input from the County.

I would agree that providing the clubs and schools with a higher standard of facilities will help to mould better juvenile teams and should help in sustaining interest levels post Minor grade. If clubs and the schools all over the county (as opposed to one centre) all have good quality facilities, and they receive help in attaining these facilities from the county board then they in turn should provide these to the county teams for training and development.

[2010 "blip",]

It's time for some introspection from the decision-makers in our county. Circumstances may have contrived against them here and there, but bar the 2010 "blip", we've been on a decline for 20 years. It's one thing loving your county, it's another thing entirely to not give it a chance in a life.

it's also high time our clubs stopped pretending to be bystanders in this mess. This convention we need leadership to arise from our clubs. Thereafter we need action.


So f**king sick of the shit that Down football has become.

Just reading back through here and I think it is quite unfair to label our run to the 2010 All Ireland final as a 'blip' and descriptions to that effect.
We had two very good minor teams in 2004 and 2005. With the latter winning the All Ireland. We won Ulster U-21 titles in 2008 and 2009 with that 09 team getting to the All Ireland final.
We did have pedigree going in to 2010 added to this the fact that some of our 1999 All Ireland minor winners were essentially in their prime.
Looking back at the QUB, St Mary's and UUJ Sigerson teams of that era, we had an inordinate amount of starters on those teams.
Bring in to the equation the fact that we had a brilliant management team led by Wee James along with Tally, McIver and Jerome and I think our progress that year can be put more down to design than pure chance.
With the advent of the Mourne Academy we are now starting to move in the right direction. It is probably something that should have been started 5/6 years ago but at least we are beginning to make inroads in that regard.
However, the main problem still exists that a heap of the best players in our county are not playing for Down.
In the short term that is going to prevent us from making any sort of progress in Ulster or the All Ireland series.
If these players cannot be brought back into the fold then regardless of who the manager is we are not going to scale any major heights anytime soon as we simply don't have the quality coming through on the conveyor belt as witnessed by our recent woes at minor and U-21 level.

Did our U21s not make an All Ireland final in 2005 as well after winning Ulster the same year?

Can anyone post the Down Club Allstars team & nominees to see how many are on the panel?

Surely these were the best players in Down last year so should have been asked.

The full List of nominees for the O'Reilly Transport Club Down Allstars are as follows:

Goalkeepers:
Stephen Kane (Kilcoo) - On panel
Mark Reid (Bryansford) - On panel

Backs:
Aaron Branagan (Kilcoo) - No
Daryl Branagan (Kilcoo) - No
Conor Doyle (An Ríocht) - No
Kevin Duffin (Castlewellan) - No
Tommy McElroy (Bredagh) - No (probably not an option)
Gerard McGovern (Burren) - On panel
Shane McNamee (Mayobridge) - No
Daniel Morgan (Castlewellan) - No
Darren O'Hagan (Clonduff) - On panel
Robbie White (Ballyholland) - No
Midfielders:
Dan Gordon (Loughinisland) - No (said he wouldnt go back so can rule him out)
Paul Greenan (Kilcoo) - No (Australia at the minute can rule him out too)
Shane Harrison (Glasdrumman) - No
Stephen Rooney (Ardglass) - No

Forwards:
Cathal Arnold (Saul) - No
Aidan Burns (Castlewellan) - No (Australia too)
Connaire Harrison (Glasdrumman) - On panel
Gareth Johnston (Tullylish) - Has he left the panel?
Jerome Johnston (Kilcoo) - Injured
Ryan Johnston (Kilcoo) - Injured
Rory Mason (Loughinisland) - No
Donagh McAleenan (Warrenpoint) - No
Shay Miller (Glenn) - No
Ryan O'Hare (Ballymartin) - No (works in London so probably not an option)

As far as I'm aware this is the status of these players. Does anyone think anyone excluded from the panel but on this list should have been given a chance? Or is there a reason they haven't been given a chance?

Just thinking here, how are these nominations made? Do the club nominate their own players or do they nominate players from different clubs within their division?

Can anyone post the Down Club Allstars team & nominees to see how many are on the panel?

Surely these were the best players in Down last year so should have been asked.

The full List of nominees for the O'Reilly Transport Club Down Allstars are as follows:

Goalkeepers:
Stephen Kane (Kilcoo)
Mark Reid (Bryansford)

Backs:
Aaron Branagan (Kilcoo)
Daryl Branagan (Kilcoo)
Conor Doyle (An Ríocht)
Kevin Duffin (Castlewellan)
Tommy McElroy (Bredagh)
Gerard McGovern (Burren)
Shane McNamee (Mayobridge)
Daniel Morgan (Castlewellan)
Darren O'Hagan (Clonduff)
Robbie White (Ballyholland)
Midfielders:
Dan Gordon (Loughinisland)
Paul Greenan (Kilcoo)
Shane Harrison (Glasdrumman)
Stephen Rooney (Ardglass)

Forwards:
Cathal Arnold (Saul)
Aidan Burns (Castlewellan)
Connaire Harrison (Glasdrumman)
Gareth Johnston (Tullylish)
Jerome Johnston (Kilcoo)
Ryan Johnston (Kilcoo)
Rory Mason (Loughinisland)
Donagh McAleenan (Warrenpoint)
Shay Miller (Glenn)
Ryan O'Hare (Ballymartin)

Marty Clarke said on BBC at half time that he would have at least appreciated a phone call from burns to get asked onto the county panel. Why has this not happened. So many better players around the county than what was on display today.

Why was Marty Clarke not approached by Eamonn Burns? As Oisin McConville said this is absolutely astonishing. From the way he was speaking it would appear he was at least interested in joining the setup. Who knows what effect that could have had on other players who had deemed themselves unavailable. As mentioned before some of the players that came on barely looked like they had an above average standard of the basic skills of the game; surely there is a better calibre of player within the county even in the lower divisions?

Any news on when the starting 15 for Sunday will be announced?

Traditionally our club would have good numbers (100+) at our annual dinner-dance for a club of our size. In the past 4/5 years there has been serious decline in numbers and last years event had a record low in numbers.

Feedback from club members on why they do not attend has been that the dinner-dance format is now outdated and some believe it is not worth the money.

Just wondering if anyone out there has experienced/organised an alternative format to a dinner-dance for a close of season awards ceremony? If so any that have been particularly good? Also have any been particularly poor and should be avoided?

Cheers in advance

Life

with Eddie Murphy and Martin Lawerence, absolute peach of a film.

[Let's be honest it's not an overly hard competition to win]

Take Mooney out of them teams and they Woukd not have won.Yes they had players on them teams that are now good players but back then mooney won it for them
St Marks got to the final without training so I think the clubs should take credit for that.
St Colmans and the Abbey should at least be getting to the finals of this competition year in year out
Let's be honest it's not an overly hard competition to win
Pre Christmas 2 teams out of 12 get eliminated and then you are straight into a quarter final after Christmas.So basically play 3 good games you win it
Our underage structures in Down are pathetic

Possibly one of the most ridiculous statements ever made.

Why is there now two separate cups for MacRory now? Since the new trophy was first presented a few years back there is a second smaller trophy presented to the team as well? Seems to be the same for the MacLarnon also..

Any body know the reason?