Down Club Hurling & Football

Started by Lecale2, November 10, 2006, 12:06:55 AM

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Smurfy123

Take Mooney out of them teams and they Woukd not have won.Yes they had players on them teams that are now good players but back then mooney won it for them
St Marks got to the final without training so I think the clubs should take credit for that.
St Colmans and the Abbey should at least be getting to the finals of this competition year in year out
Let's be honest it's not an overly hard competition to win
Pre Christmas 2 teams out of 12 get eliminated and then you are straight into a quarter final after Christmas.So basically play 3 good games you win it
Our underage structures in Down are pathetic

TheClutch

Quote from: Smurfy123 on March 30, 2016, 11:51:07 AM
Take Mooney out of them teams and they Woukd not have won.Yes they had players on them teams that are now good players but back then mooney won it for them
St Marks got to the final without training so I think the clubs should take credit for that.
St Colmans and the Abbey should at least be getting to the finals of this competition year in year out
Let's be honest it's not an overly hard competition to win
Pre Christmas 2 teams out of 12 get eliminated and then you are straight into a quarter final after Christmas.So basically play 3 good games you win it
Our underage structures in Down are pathetic

Possibly one of the most ridiculous statements ever made.
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snoopdog

Quote from: wobbller on March 29, 2016, 02:07:41 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on March 29, 2016, 01:12:17 PM
As much as I hate to say it would some kind of supporter stance highlight the feeling to the county board. Do the supporters club have any say or sway. Maybe pulling membership of club Down etc and non attendance at county games. Would that get a message across.
As most point out here we won't see change until the county board gets an overhaul. Depressing times. Have we ever lost so many games in a row regardless of division.
At least you can swap over to the Dubs as you're down that direction. Heaven help any young person being able to look forward to anything good happening around Down football.There'll hardly be a sellout on tickets for the supporter's bus(es) at the weekend.
I couldn't do that.

snoopdog

Quote from: TheClutch on March 30, 2016, 12:33:33 PM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on March 30, 2016, 11:51:07 AM
Take Mooney out of them teams and they Woukd not have won.Yes they had players on them teams that are now good players but back then mooney won it for them
St Marks got to the final without training so I think the clubs should take credit for that.
St Colmans and the Abbey should at least be getting to the finals of this competition year in year out
Let's be honest it's not an overly hard competition to win
Pre Christmas 2 teams out of 12 get eliminated and then you are straight into a quarter final after Christmas.So basically play 3 good games you win it
Our underage structures in Down are pathetic


Possibly one of the most ridiculous statements ever made.

Its a notoriously difficult competition to win. My God it can be a minefield as st colmans discovered this year.
And yes Mooney was exceptional for st colmans in their back to back but 1 man doesn't win all irelands. The johnsons etc were  just as influential. A statement like that is nuts it's like sayin they wouldn't have won in the late 80's without wee James for god sake. Yes 1 man can make a difference but he can't do it on his own. I don't remeber Southampton winning much with Le tissier in the  team.

Smurfy123

I don't think the johnstones were as influential as mooney.Take Mooney out of the side and no they would not have won the Hogan
What's so hard with winning 3 games?
Give Poacher the managerial reigns at either St Colmans or Abbey and they would win a hogan within 4 years
That's the difference

NP 76

Catch a grip with yourself. Money fluted in and out of games in both the Hogan teams. Leaders like mc Parland ,Gough the livelys the johnsons were steady men in every game. As for Poucher there is some difference in coaching at c level under no pressure than mc Crory where you are expected to win every year. Some of the things you have come out with are laughable and shows a fascination with slot of people in our county who seem to think things are easily won. You are right that the schools in Down are not helping by their limited coaching but is the clubs doing any better for the lads

Brick Tamlin

Quote from: Smurfy123 on March 30, 2016, 01:27:03 PM
I don't think the johnstones were as influential as mooney.Take Mooney out of the side and no they would not have won the Hogan
What's so hard with winning 3 games?
Give Poacher the managerial reigns at either St Colmans or Abbey and they would win a hogan within 4 years
That's the difference

This right here. Brilliant.
If only his face fit he could solve all our problems.
Damn that non-fitting face of his.

A man from Down

We have had so many all Ireland winners in the past who attended schools in Downpatrick which have never had the greatest success. But anyway its all about the Newry schools and a couple of the great GAA schools based in ........Kilkeel.

A man from Down

To start blaming the schools is ludicrous.

PAULD123

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Mooney was never a player to lead. He drifted in and out of matches, doing very little for ages and then popping up to score a goal and a few points. Shay McCartan was far more influential in the forward line and a better player. Too bad he went to soccer because he would be a county senior now. If Mooney was the only good player then how come Shay McCardle, Jerome Johnston, Ryan Johnston, Ross McGarry, Niall McParland, Connor Gough, Daryl Brannigan and Donal O'Hare all have reperesented Down at senior county level.

As for St Colmans and the Abbey expected to get to the final every year - Well isn't that a bit of an insult to Omagh, Dungannon and Maghera?

snoopdog

Quote from: PAULD123 on March 30, 2016, 04:08:21 PM
Mooney was never a player to lead. He drifted in and out of matches, doing very little for ages and then popping up to score a goal and a few points. Shay McCartan was far more influential in the forward line and a better player. Too bad he went to soccer because he would be a county senior now. If Mooney was the only good player then how come Shay McCardle, Jerome Johnston, Ryan Johnston, Ross McGarry, Niall McParland, Connor Gough, Daryl Brannigan and Donal O'Hare all have reperesented Down at senior county level.

As for St Colmans and the Abbey expected to get to the final every year - Well isn't that a bit of an insult to Omagh, Dungannon and Maghera?
Yeah Shay McCartan a big loss. I see he scored for norn iron u21's last night.

Smurfy123

To say Shay was more of an influence than Mooney is ludicrous
The fact of the matter is if Mooney wasn't playing with St Colmans they would not have won 2 hogans
That's the bottom line
The other players you mention are all decent players now but mooney carried them teams on his own
The reality is his goals at crucial times when St Colmans were behind won them the matches

knockitdown

Quote from: Smurfy123 on March 30, 2016, 04:21:37 PM
To say Shay was more of an influence than Mooney is ludicrous
The fact of the matter is if Mooney wasn't playing with St Colmans they would not have won 2 hogans
That's the bottom line
The other players you mention are all decent players now but mooney carried them teams on his own
The reality is his goals at crucial times when St Colmans were behind won them the matches

It's not fact as we will never know!!

SHEEDY

Monaghan u21's destroyed Armagh 2-16 to 0-9 in the Ulster semi final tonight in newry, the same Armagh that destroyed down in the 1st round.   :-\
nil satis nisi optimum

Mourne Rover

Few results could have made our u21 performance against Armagh any more humiliating but the hammering they got from Monaghan tonight probably managed it. We got destroyed by a side who have turned out to be pretty ordinary, and their conquerers Monaghan are not even the favourites for the competition.  The report to the county board on the entire debacle will be worth waiting for.