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#31
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
July 27, 2023, 10:43:19 AM
Quote from: Hurling123 on July 27, 2023, 09:54:25 AM
Glad to clarify.
What went up on twitter was incorrect due to games had to be changed due to the death of Dylan quirke. As I said I was there what was put up on twitter was incorrect Tipperary and Wexford were in laois team one group. Hope that clear any confusion.

Dillon Quirke died on the 5th of August last year

The Forristal and Walsh Conpetition took place on the 28th of August

Are you seriously telling us all that the Tony Forristal committee fabricated all its results,moved Laois out of the 16 team Forristal section,repeatedly put wrong results up then on social media and that no one challenged them ?

And that's even before we come to the spectators who witnessed the actual games ?


#32
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
July 27, 2023, 10:32:42 AM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on July 27, 2023, 07:52:33 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on July 26, 2023, 10:41:07 PM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on July 26, 2023, 09:10:52 PM
Reading this thread with interest as I genuinely care about the state of Laois hurling. Often I read two people disagreeing on forums and I can cobble together the gist of the overall story as people will have share a common thread on details, facts, information (without actually agreeing).
However I have NEVER seen posters post such diametrically opposite details with both adamant they are correct. Can anyone corroborate either reports of results in Tony Forristal etc. ??

The Poster made the following comment

" The  team reached the semi final of the Tony forrisal after beating cork and Wexford in Waterford lost to Tipperary who I believe won the competition out."

You can verify whether he told the truth or not here

Tony Forristal and Sonny Walsh Results 2022 results available below


https://twitter.com/tonyforristal/status/1563643591699836928?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg

https://twitter.com/tonyforristal/status/1563651881267863552?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg

Thanks. Some questions on the structure of the current Forristal/Walsh Tournament.

My understanding is Forristal Cup is top, Forristal Shield is next and then Sonny Walsh tier 3. Why (in the results) are Wexford 2 in the Forristal Shield but Wexford 1 in the Sonny Walsh competition? I also see a Tipp 1 and 2 in the Sonny Walsh. Theres also a Tipp 1 in the Forristal.  Are they different teams? Should it read Tipp 1 in Forr and Tipp 2+3 in Sonny Walsh.

It just makes for unclear reading.

Forristal is Top tier

And splits into Cup and Shield

Sonny Walsh is second Tier

And also splits into Cup and Shield

The numbering of Teams can be confusing all right

Tipp 1 as per your example in the Forristal os their number 1 team

Tipp 1 in the walsh is their second squad and tipp 2 is their third squad

Laois had 2 squads in the Sonny walsh

Waterford had 2 squads make Forristal semi finals
#33
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
July 26, 2023, 10:41:07 PM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on July 26, 2023, 09:10:52 PM
Reading this thread with interest as I genuinely care about the state of Laois hurling. Often I read two people disagreeing on forums and I can cobble together the gist of the overall story as people will have share a common thread on details, facts, information (without actually agreeing).
However I have NEVER seen posters post such diametrically opposite details with both adamant they are correct. Can anyone corroborate either reports of results in Tony Forristal etc. ??

The Poster made the following comment

" The  team reached the semi final of the Tony forrisal after beating cork and Wexford in Waterford lost to Tipperary who I believe won the competition out."

You can verify whether he told the truth or not here

Tony Forristal and Sonny Walsh Results 2022 results available below


https://twitter.com/tonyforristal/status/1563643591699836928?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg

https://twitter.com/tonyforristal/status/1563651881267863552?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg

#34
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
July 26, 2023, 08:59:58 PM
Quote from: Hurling123 on July 26, 2023, 07:09:43 PM
Look your opinion of this team has been so negative from your first post.
For such an informed man you clearly leave out so much information
You talk of this team at last year level . this team started out last year as 4 divisional teams .
They played other county teams while in this format
The  team reached the semi final of the Tony forrisal after beating cork and Wexford in Waterford lost to Tipperary who I believe won the competition out.
My point is if you have all the information why not put that up the positive aspects,.your comments are all so negative.
As I said my agenda is for development of this team and other underage teams in the county.i know that the management team are really struggling to get people to help out with mid week sessions. They train from 11 until 1.30 in the Coe on Tuesday. They also train every Saturday morning.
I will certainly try and make it down to Tipperary to support the lads.

I suspected you were a bluffer but you've convinced me now

Laois weren't good enough to play in the Tony Forristal last year

Tipp beat Waterford 2 in 1 semi and Kilkenny beat Waterford 1 in the other

Tipp beat KK in the Final

The Forristal Shield Final was between Wexford and Cork which Wexford Won.

Laois played in the Sonny Walsh which is for the next 16 teams in the Country

Results here

Were

Laois 1 0-07 Tipperary 3 12-08

Laois 2 2-10 Tipperary 2 7-15

Wexford 2 3-11 Laois 2 2-08

Kerry won the Walsh Shield

Cork won the Walsh Cup



Trials were based on 4 divisional teams which were shambolic in their organization and they were whittled down to 40 odd lads



#35
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
July 26, 2023, 04:42:24 PM
Quote from: Zooming around on July 26, 2023, 02:41:43 PM
Quote from: Hurling123 on July 24, 2023, 09:03:15 PM
   Arrabawn B QF   

   Galway 1 v Laois   
   Galway 2 v Dublin 2   
   Dublin 1 v Tipperary 2   O'Toole Park Crumlin
   Kilkenny 2 v Offaly 1   

      
  i dont think you understand what is need in Laois Hurling . keyboard warriors are not the answer . putting half truths out to there thinking this is a answer is dreaming .sorry in my late reply i am just back from coaching two hurling sessions to juveniles. i was involved with this current team but had to leave due to time commitments . the player you speak of was never even in the top 5 while i was there just like other members of his family he decided Laois was not what he wanted . he wasn't begged back as why should he be ?? the management moved on and built a stronger team . he certainty wasn't a team player .

my interest in the future of Laois Hurling. just seen this some time ago and it drives me mad when people put half untruths up to suit there agenda ??  this team(the first team) yes have lost to limerick and dublin in challenge game but gone on to beat limerick in limerick and galway in galway,destory antrim in antrim although i am not involved i still keep a keen eye on this squad . there second team are not bad hurlers but find it hard to string win together , you should really contact Shane keegan because i know this management panel are always looking for help to drive thing on

Expressing doubt over the reality of a result is not being negative. I am not a keyboard warrior and I seldom have a personal go at anyone on here. Also, I purposely stated I wasn't being negative, I was just curious as to how our lads could beat Galway's best team. Galway won their section of the Tony Forristal last year while Laois got nowhere in the B and suffered such results in some games as to cause an outcry here (rightly).
For example. I was in the COE when this squad played Kilkenny last year. Kilkenny absolutely riddled our lads and as the game went on they simply couldn't weaken their team anymore. All the subs were put on and corner backs plus the goalie put in the forwards, everything, but still no let up in the one way traffic. It was embarrassing and I felt sorry for the young lads.  I subsequently found out that this was a Kilkenny B trial team who had a number of players on the day who didn't even make their B squad. Earlier that year in one of the Leinster blitzes, Kilkenny and Galway played each other with both counties having 3 even teams, 72 players each. Both teams played 2 games (6 games in total). Both counties won 2 games with 2 being drawn. That would suggest to me that Galway and Kilkenny are very evenly matched. Hence my suspicion.
Just because a team is named as Galway 1 doesn't mean it's their A team.
I'd be pretty certain that our U15s are nowhere near the level of Galway. We'll wait for the next couple of minor championships to prove that. I hope I'm wrong.

Excellent informed Post

Lads coming on here telling us it's all rosey in the garden when it so patently isn't and most of us involved also at the coal face of Juvenile Hurling and Football

We won't have to wait for the minor championship

The Arrabawn Competition is on in Tipperary on the 26th of August this Year

24 teams involved

#36
Laois / Re: The Future for Laois Football
July 26, 2023, 12:23:18 AM
Quote from: Batman!!! on July 25, 2023, 10:46:19 PM
Does Donie Brennan now become an option for the Laois County Board to consider as the next Senior Football boss following his ladies step down? Remarkable job done with the ladies

Shur throw your name in the Hat,Donie

What's the worst that can happen ?


#37
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
July 24, 2023, 05:16:38 PM
Quote from: Hurling123 on July 24, 2023, 05:07:33 PM
Lads it a dreadful when so called Laois Gaels come on here to run down there own

Tells alot about the issue in the county.
Get off the keyboards and into coaching In the fields

Just got the fixtures for the arawbawn attaching them later for the craic.

As you can clearly see it's Galway 1 against laois

2 posts in and you slating lads that have and are involved with their clubs and have made valuable contributions here online to try and address issues

If you are such a man in the know

Maybe you can tell us why the best hurler in the county at his age grade from Castletown has walked from this set up ?

Answer that and I'll have a few more questions for you
#38
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
July 21, 2023, 03:31:16 PM
Has the new hurling GDA who was appointed back in March already left his position?

That's hardly the case is it ?
#39
Laois / Re: Laois Senior Hurlers 2023
July 20, 2023, 01:07:17 PM
Quote from: clonadsane on July 20, 2023, 11:59:28 AM
Quote from: Zooming around on July 20, 2023, 11:26:12 AM
Will Dan Shanahan stay on with Laois now that he is part of Ken McGrath's backroom team with the Waterford U20s?
I'm sure he'll stay on, he'll want his 241 car, can't be going around in an old model

He won't be staying on

#40
GAA Discussion / Re: Assaults at GAA games
July 10, 2023, 06:18:31 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 10, 2023, 05:23:24 PM
Quote from: full moon on July 10, 2023, 05:17:09 PM
Theres a strange defending off soccer here by some and pretending it's much better than GAA.

Barely 2 months ago a referee was hospitalised in a local soccer match after being kung fu kicked by a sub running onto the field and Gardai/FAI investigated RTE reported on it, he got 5 year ban

Dublin referees were going to go on strike last November because referees were being assaulted

FAI Cup final had large crowd trouble in recent years and other LOI matches


Quite frankly though I think much of the issues in both sports are more about the decline in behaviour in society in this country and lack of morals, manners and punishments.

No, there is an objection to whataboutery. Soccer has dramatically cleaned up it's act. Every incident you referenced saw multi year or lifetime bans. Compare and contrast. What crowd trouble at LoI games orhen than the cup final?

We should be able to discuss trouble at our games without reference to soccer, especially incorrect references to soccer.

Soccer is your game,Pal

Dont you ever stop defending it
#41
GAA Discussion / Re: Assaults at GAA games
July 10, 2023, 05:16:55 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 10, 2023, 02:22:37 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 09, 2023, 09:43:56 PM
Nothing but a fair lot of scum following teams these days. Nearly as bad as the soccer. They have to start seperating them in the hill.
Is that true though? When was the last row at a soccer game?

Trouble at a recent Cork City game in the past 2 months

And they the Club who were chanting at an opposition manager whos son had or has Leukemia

The likes of you need not try to paint Irish soccer as cleaner than thou when the opposite is the case.
#42
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
July 09, 2023, 11:04:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 09, 2023, 11:01:16 PM
There's not a game you could not pick out a grievance with calls. In the main I felt the calls evened themselves out.

Galvin should look back at some of his refereeing decisions over the years. I'd like to see how critical he is of his own strange calls

Gavin would sicken you with his constant attacks on refs which give's legitimacy to others who never blew a whistle to do much worse

And all for a few € in a newspaper column
#43
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
July 09, 2023, 06:49:15 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 09, 2023, 04:47:01 PM
It's better for Kilkenny to lose serial all Ireland finals. They are so earnest. Galway have lost enough. Losing All Ireland finals is horrible.

"It's better for Kilkenny to lose serial all Ireland finals"

Jesus you talk some rot

No county least of all Kilkenny will want to lose serial all ireland finals

They will relish the opportunity of stopping a Limerick 4 in a row
#44
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
July 09, 2023, 12:06:54 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 09, 2023, 11:11:28 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on July 09, 2023, 09:12:24 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 09, 2023, 08:44:31 AM
Limerick are the hurling equivalent of the Dublin 6 in a row. They were also untouchable .

Galway clearly not at the level of the Munster teams when they faced Limerick this year

Even Waterford who had a poor year could have beaten them if they had kept wides down and were right in it till the end

Galway by comparison were beaten with 20 minutes to go

Out on  their legs and out of ideas

They have regressed under Henry and he has a job of work on his hands in the final year of his term

His main  men are all in the autumn of their careers and the replacements don't look up to it
Limerick aren't the as the team who to Clare. Limerick peak for 2 matches and nobody can beat them.

I don't understand your first sentence so I cant comment on what your saying

This notion that Limerick have to peak for 2 games like an 1970's Kerry football team is laughable

Munster is so tight they have to be on it from game 1

Let's not forget that they had to beat Cork to stay in the championship

The reality is that Galway are dependent on lads in their 30's

don't seem to have much coming to match the lads they will be replacing

And have a manger in situ who in his final year next year has some very difficult decisions to make
#45
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
July 09, 2023, 09:12:24 AM
Quote from: seafoid on July 09, 2023, 08:44:31 AM
Limerick are the hurling equivalent of the Dublin 6 in a row. They were also untouchable .

Galway clearly not at the level of the Munster teams when they faced Limerick this year

Even Waterford who had a poor year could have beaten them if they had kept wides down and were right in it till the end

Galway by comparison were beaten with 20 minutes to go

Out on  their legs and out of ideas

They have regressed under Henry and he has a job of work on his hands in the final year of his term

His main men are all in the autumn of their careers and the replacements don't look up to it