Declan, run for cover....... you US hater you.....................
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Show posts MenuQuote from: Tyrones own on January 31, 2010, 09:23:13 PMQuote from: give her dixie on January 31, 2010, 04:33:21 PM
Sure show us proof that Sadam killed millions?
Sure thing George...right after you prove to all here how Bush is responsible for killing Millions
Shucks...I know, it's another dang question but I can always hope
Quote from: Tyrones own on January 31, 2010, 04:19:01 PM
I along with an awful lot of other people thought at the time that Saddam should be removed,
did it turn into a chaotic thunderfcuk yes.... But here's where we obviously disagree, in taking in to
consideration the colossal loss of life and hurt on our economy, like MK, I'm glad he's gone for reasons non other than he
was an extremely violent Stalinist like murdering Dictator and what's typical here is that none of ye will touch on the millions
of innocent people he himself was responsible for killing and maiming..... Na just the US toll
..it was inevitable that it would come to a head be it the start of the last decade or the start of this one imo.
that said Muppet.... is there ever a good time in the eyes of a sympathizer to remove a murdering Stalinist from power?
Quote from: magickingdom on January 30, 2010, 09:22:32 PMQuote from: AFS on January 30, 2010, 09:03:29 PMQuote from: magickingdom on January 30, 2010, 08:47:59 PMQuote from: give her dixie on January 30, 2010, 12:58:27 PMQuote from: magickingdom on January 30, 2010, 11:49:40 AM
well done bill gates, provides fantastic products at fantastic prices and then donates large chunks of the profits. individual americans donate more money than any other race on earth. the other thing about living in the states is the amount of voluntary work that gets done, i never knew anyone who volunteered for anything in ireland (maybe that says more about me!).
3 questions for you here on this post:
1. Can you back up your claims that the US donate the most per head of Capita?
2. When did Americans become a race?
3. Are you aware that Microsoft have been fined approx $2 billion for their unfair trading practices?
Was going to ask you to back up your claim that NO Irish person volunteers, but sure i'll not embarras you any futher.
theres any number of them on the web, goggle them yourself
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=236671
To be honest, not the most compelling evidence there magickingdom. Anonymous people on a message board quoting figures from a link that doesn't work
try this one then, like i said theres any number of them on the web
http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=content.view&cpid=736
Quote from: magickingdom on January 30, 2010, 08:41:20 PMQuote from: Declan on January 30, 2010, 07:25:34 PMQuotedeclan, the US is not one state but a federation of 50 states each of which hold their own election for president. so its possible to not win the popular vote and still win the election by winning enough states by just a few votes. every state in the union has its own government. in the uk its possible to get 40% + of the vote and end up with 25% of the seats in parliament with first past the post
As other posters have said I'm aware of the electoral college system etc. I was just posing the original questions because of TO's arguments vis -a-vis "democratically" elected regimes around the world. Didn't get an answer either but anyway not to worry.
The more fascinating thing for me in the whole America Good/Bad thing is the level of misinformation around. A Newsweek poll out exposed "gaps" in America's knowledge of history and current events. Perhaps most alarmingly, 41% of Americans answered 'Yes' to the question "Do you think Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq was directly involved in planning, financing, or carrying out the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001?
americans knowledge of the rest of the world is on a par with the rest of the worlds knowledge of america, poor to average. i could name cities in america with populations of over 1m that people in europe couldnt pick out on a map.
Quote from: magickingdom on January 30, 2010, 11:49:40 AM
well done bill gates, provides fantastic products at fantastic prices and then donates large chunks of the profits. individual americans donate more money than any other race on earth. the other thing about living in the states is the amount of voluntary work that gets done, i never knew anyone who volunteered for anything in ireland (maybe that says more about me!).
Quote from: magickingdom on January 27, 2010, 07:42:43 PM
first of all as someone born in the bronx and whose dad served in the US army for years i have very little time for US policy on israel, the israelies should be told to fock off and live or die with the palestinians. thats their problem and one just about every american i know has little or no interest in.
that however will be the only time i criticise america, everthing else the US does around the world is done for the greater good, sometimes it works sometimes not but the motivation is always for the greater good. if one country has to be a world policeman then thank God its the US, when the brits were a world power they plundered the place, if the Chinese got half a chance they'd do the same. . guys like dixie see nothing wrong in china, cuba, venezuela and other left wing piss pots and nothing right in the US
Quote from: muppet on January 29, 2010, 09:42:03 PMQuote from: magickingdom on January 29, 2010, 09:33:04 PMQuote from: muppet on January 28, 2010, 06:47:26 PMQuote from: Tyrones own on January 28, 2010, 06:39:05 PMQuote from: muppet on January 28, 2010, 04:55:54 PMWould ye ever make up your mind, you want to give Obama a chance but yet have nothing but disparaging commentsQuote from: Tyrones own on January 28, 2010, 04:32:01 PM
Uncomfortable? Not at all, I'm extremely proud of our hero's that are in Haiti distributing aid and pulling survivors from rubble, aren't you?
Hey I never had a problem with that, if you look back I said I would give Obama a chance.
for the US military whom he heads up *shakes head in bewilderment at how for such a sharp fella, you wouldn't get the
irony in that*
Obama hasn't started any wars unlike his predecessor and his cronies. The US military is still involved in those wars and are fair game for criticism of their fcuk ups IMHO.
Also, you are assuming my position is the same as everyone else's that criticizes the US military. It isn't as simple as that. I referred here in the past to the book 'Fiasco' which explains that there are some superb people in the US military who predicted the route the war would take as far back as 2002 and strongly advised different strategies. However the NeoCons civilians over-ruled them and we unnecessarily have the 7 years (and still counting) war.
Criticising some of the actions of the military doesn't automatically mean that they are all wrong all of the time.
this is way of topic but since you mentioned it. the US military went half way around the world into a hostile country of 30m people (to put it mildly) and so far has suffered about 4,000 causalities. in cold mathematical terms from a US perspective its hardly a fiasco whatever some in the military think. its a war that was only ever going to have one winner
Of course, 4,000 US soldiers or their families don't matter do they? Not to mention the >100,000 Iraqis dead, countless maimed & abused.
But hey, as long as Bush/Cheney won eh?