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General discussion / Re: It Must be Marching Season
« on: July 15, 2016, 12:07:45 AM »
i wonder how many of the bandsmen videod by the psni will be interviewed or arrested on public order offences?

https://twitter.com/irish_news/status/753320367687503873

Im very familiar with this incident. A longer video of this tape exists but won't be put on social media. It is being held back for evidence for the up coming  court case. Its damning for the loyalist band and the British state police.

Disgusting scenes all right. Watching the Police stand by as thugs spit on Paudie and taunt him about his house been burnt is
sickening. So much for shared equality eh? This annual tour of nationalist towns by sectarian bigots has to stop.

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General discussion / Re: Brexit.
« on: July 06, 2016, 12:32:21 PM »
No matter what industry anyone works in, they are going to be affected one way or another.
I work in the haulage industry and already the costs have risen due to the pound. Fuel for hundreds
of trucks is bought over the border and the falling pound against the euro has hit hard. Costs can only
become absorbed for a short time until they get passed onto the end users, which is everyone who eats......

The company I work for are a major player in the refrigerated transport business between the UK and Ireland.
The main products out are meat and chicken, and back, fruit and veg. The bulk of all this work is into the major
supermarket distribution centres. Therefore, higher fuel costs lead to higher food costs.

As our shopping habits have changed and we buy most of our food in supermarkets, so too has the production.
In order to supply the main players, producers have had to expand and modernise. Along with that, bring in workers.
Given the type of work involved, and with producers running 24/7, the majority of these workers are eastern European.
Not too many children leaving school locally want to go work in a meat or chicken processing factory.........

The people of Boston in Lincolnshire voted the highest to leave, mainly due to the high number of eastern Europeans
living in the area. If they were to leave, the fields around Boston would overgrow as there would be no one left to pick
the fruit and veg.

If we didn't have the workers coming here to work in the fields and the factories producing food, driving the trucks
transporting it, packing and stacking it, then we would have a major problem.  The cost of food would sky rocket, and there
would be a massive supply problem.

If border controls and customs return, then we are also facing major hurdles. Given the volume of goods crossing per day,
we are faced with a vast increase in paperwork, delays at the border, and a serious increase in costs.

The fallout from Brexit will hit our industry hard, and also the relevant knock on effects will take their toll. Like everything
else at present related to Brexit, nobody really knows what is going to happen. Those at the top don't even know !!

Things don't look to bright at the minute, and the future is looking pretty bleak as well.

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Turkish ship carrying aid for Gaza arrives at Ashdod


A Turkish ship carrying aid for Gaza has arrived in Israel, a week after Turkey and Israel agreed to restore ties that soured over a deadly raid on an aid flotilla in 2010.

The Panama-flagged Lady Leyla container vessel docked at Ashdod port on Sunday afternoon after departing on Friday.

Its contents were to be unloaded, inspected and sent to the Gaza Strip which is under an Israeli blockade and has been hit by three wars with Israel since 2008.

The ship was carrying 11,000 tonnes of supplies including food packages, flour, rice, sugar and toys, the Turkish state-run Anadolu news agency reported. The aid is expected to reach Gaza in a few days.

OPINION: What the Israeli-Turkish reconciliation says about Gaza

Turkey had initially pushed for a lifting of Israel's blockade on Gaza as part of the negotiations to normalise ties, but Israel rejected this.

A compromise was eventually reached allowing Turkey to send aid through Ashdod rather than directly to the Palestinian enclave.

Israel says the blockade is necessary to prevent Hamas, the Palestinian group that rules Gaza, from receiving materials that could be used for military purposes. But United Nations officials have called for it to be lifted, citing deteriorating conditions in the territory.

UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, who visited Gaza on Tuesday, called the blockade "collective punishment".

Turkey's ruling Justice and Development Party has friendly ties with Hamas, and President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has been a vocal supporter of the Palestinian cause.

Turkey and Israel were formerly close regional allies, but fell out in 2010 when Israeli commandos killed 10 Turkish activists in a raid on an aid flotilla seeking to break the blockade on Gaza.

READ MORE: Will the Turkey-Israel deal end Gaza's siege?

Under a reconciliation deal struck last week, Israel will pay $20m in compensation to the families of those killed.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has promoted the economic benefits of restoring ties, with talk of building a pipeline to Turkey to export natural gas, and the need to find allies in the turbulent Middle East.

"This small amount of aid coming from Turkey is highly appreciated, but the most important thing for Gazans is freedom, hope and a new process to end the suffering of two million Palestinians," Amjad al-Shawa, the director of the Palestinian Non-Governmental Network, told Al Jazeera from Gaza City.

"We expect Turkey to pressure Israel - through its new restored relations - to respect international humanitarian law and to lift this inhumane blockade."

Families of four Israeli soldiers declared killed or missing in Gaza protested that the Turkish-Israeli deal did not mandate their loved ones be returned to Israel.

Several relatives and supporters of the soldiers' families protested against the deal outside Ashdod port on Sunday.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/07/turkish-ship-carrying-aid-gaza-arrives-ashdod-160703152844113.html

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Statement from the Turkish charity IHH

Mavi Marmara Court Case to Continue

We Hope the Parliament doesn’t Forgive Israeli Murderers

Today following the ongoing diplomatic negotiations Israel and Turkey have officially announced normalized relations, which have been strained following the attack on Mavi Marmara on 31st May 2010. Netanyahu’s announcement on behalf of Israel came around the same time Turkey issued a statement about it. In the press conference, Netanyahu has declared in a victorious attitude that “It is a tremendous economic success for Israel. The blockade on Gaza by no means is lifted nor shall it ever be lifted. Turkey has agreed to our terms.” He has highlighted that Israel agreed not to pay compensation but to make a donation of 20 million dollars provided that the cases are withdrawn; that this move will prevent the case from establishing a precedent for other crimes of Israeli soldiers; that the agreement is a significant gain. Unfortunately the rapprochement agreement which is announced by Turkey means that blockade on Gaza is recognized by Turkey. Indeed Gaza is free according to the agreement signed in 2005 and is entitled to the right to travel and do business as it pleases without relying on anybody. The embargo means that Israel is recognized as a superior authority which has the final say on what and how much supplies can enter Gaza and this is the subject matter of the agreement announced.

The rapprochement agreement may be regarded as the easing of the blockade although many provisions are quite ambiguous. However it only constitutes a partial permission granted to Turkey. What kind of supplies and how much supplies will Israel allow Turkey to bring in to Gaza stands as a big question mark. Indeed supply entry and exit from Gaza should be free like in every other country. The issue is not entry of humanitarian relief supplies into Gaza but making sure that Gaza has its freedom of movement and transactions so that it does not have to rely on external aid. Palestine is deprived of this freedom and doomed to rely on external aid only while international law grants it to every land and government. It is simply unacceptable. Therefore, as IHH we would like to announce that we will keep up our efforts in all fronts including legal and physical arenas for the removal of the illegal and unjustifiable blockade on Gaza.

 

Meanwhile it is reported that the agreement has a provision stipulating that a donation will be made to the families of the victims provided that the court cases are withdrawn. These lawsuits are not filed only by victims’ families and Turkish citizens but international victims of the Mavi Marmara attack from 37 different countries. There is no withdrawal of the cases. The victims’ families remain adamant about refusing to give up their cause or withdraw their case until and unless the blockade is removed.

Israel’s arrogant attitude as if to say “I kill people and pay in cash whatever is the cost” is unacceptable. Who is going to protect Turkish citizens from Israel in international waters? Turkish government has acted this way and came to an agreement with the Israeli party. Just like what we have said since the beginning, as an international NGO we do not condone an agreement with Israel. We were never involved in the agreement nor did we partake as a party. To this day we have voiced our warnings and suggestions. From then onwards we will keep standing with Palestinian people through our court cases, our actions to break the blockade, our protests and various aids. The Mavi Marmara court cases are to continue. We hope that the parliament does not endorse this agreement which means that Israeli murderers are exonerated by Turkey. Mavi Marmara stood as a hope in the Islamic world and for the oppressed people of the world. It is our duty to keep this hope which stands for the common consciousness of humanity alive. We would like to rest our case with a Palestinian saying “Whoever covers up with Israel will remain naked.”

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Israel and Turkey end rift over Gaza flotilla killings

Israel and Turkey have normalised relations, ending a six-year rift over the killing by Israeli troops of 10 Turkish activists on a Gaza-bound ship.

Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim said a deal reached on Sunday would see Israel pay $20m (£15m) in compensation.

It will also allow Turkey to send aid to Gaza and carry out infrastructure projects in the Palestinian territory.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the agreement would help bring "stability" to the Middle East.

Turkey was once Israel's closest ally in the region, and the two countries share many strategic interests.
Gaza 'lifeline'

The Turkish and Israeli prime ministers announced the deal to restore diplomatic ties at simultaneous news conferences in Ankara and Rome.

Mr Yildirim said the two countries would appoint ambassadors "as soon as possible" after the agreement is signed on Tuesday.

A "lifeline to Palestinians" would be provided, he added, with the first ship loaded with 10,000 tonnes of aid due to leave for the Israeli port of Ashdod on Friday.

The reconciliation deal between Israel and Turkey will see a return to normal diplomatic relations, but ties are unlikely to have the warmth that they did in the past.

It is Turkey's growing diplomatic problems - strategic tensions with Russia; difficulties with Europe due to the growing authoritarianism of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan; and above all the failure of Turkey's Syria policy (which has also soured ties with Washington) - that have prompted this move.

Turkey gains a privileged role in Gaza's economic development and a lessening of its isolation in a deeply troubled region.

Israel sees an end to its practical difficulties with Turkey and gets assurances about future Hamas activity on Turkish soil.

There could also be important economic benefits to both countries in terms of the energy sector and tourism.

Turkey will also be allowed to invest in a series of development projects in Gaza, including residential buildings, a hospital, a power station and a desalination plant for drinking water.

In return, Turkey agreed to pass legislation protecting Israeli troops from legal claims over the Mavi Marmara incident, and to prevent any military action or fundraising by Hamas operatives based there.

"The total embargo imposed on Palestine and on the Gaza region in particular, is to being lifted to a great extent through Turkey's leadership," Mr Yildirim asserted.

But Mr Netanyahu said Israel's "defensive maritime blockade" of Gaza, which is dominated by the militant Islamist movement Hamas, would remain in place.

"This is a supreme security interest of ours. I was not willing to compromise it. This interest is essential to prevent the force build-up by Hamas and it remains as has been and is," he added.

Israel maintains its blockade of Gaza to try to prevent weapons or materials reaching Palestinian militants, with whom it fought a devastating war in 2014, while allowing humanitarian aid into the territory.

Palestinians say the policy is tantamount to collective punishment, and UN and aid officials have warned of deteriorating conditions in Gaza.

Ten pro-Palestinian Turkish activists, one of them a dual American citizen, were killed and dozens wounded as clashes broke out after the commandos boarded the ship, descending on ropes from helicopters.

The two sides had blamed each other for the violence. The activists said the commandos started shooting as soon as they hit the deck. Israel said the commandos opened fire only after being attacked with clubs, knives and a gun which was taken from them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-36639834

A UN inquiry was unable to determine at exactly which point the commandos used live rounds.

Talks on normalising ties started after Mr Netanyahu telephoned Mr Erdogan, then Turkish prime minister, in 2013 to make it clear that the results of the Mavi Marmara incident were "unintentional" and to "express regret" over the loss of life.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: April 14, 2016, 09:54:50 PM »
Sweet..........................

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General discussion / Re: What do you think of Obama ?
« on: April 11, 2016, 06:23:37 PM »
Anyone with any decency or respect for humanity would have no respect for Obama,
a man with the blood of thousands on his hands.


Which countries' people are you referring to?

Take your pick from any of the countries that he bombed over 22,000 times last year alone,
or any of the other countries bombed by bombs supplied by him.

Over 20,000 Palestinians killed or injured since the day he was elected and he never said a word, except to defend Israel.

Some man he is...........

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/us-dropped-23144-bombs-muslim-majority-countries-2015
I have no interest in defending Obama but on the list of countries on that link would you have him pull the plug on those wars that were started prior to his coming into office?

Which wars were started prior to him becoming President?
Afghanistan and Iraq.

Only 2 yet he started wars in more countries than Bush and Blair..........
Which wars did he start?

I'm sure you can calculate on that one if you have read the article

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General discussion / Re: driving debate
« on: April 11, 2016, 06:21:29 PM »
So if there was emergency services trying to get through the lorry driver just made things worse...
It wasn't his job to police the knobs driving up the hard shoulder.

If the lorry driver hadn't of blocked the cars way back from the scene of the accident how much harder do you think it would have been for the emergency vehicles to get through?

There is no reason for anyone to drive on the hard shoulder unless the police directed them to do so.

I salute the lorry driver for stopping these knobs in their selfish tracks.

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General discussion / Re: What do you think of Obama ?
« on: April 11, 2016, 05:34:25 PM »
Anyone with any decency or respect for humanity would have no respect for Obama,
a man with the blood of thousands on his hands.
Which countries' people are you referring to?

Take your pick from any of the countries that he bombed over 22,000 times last year alone,
or any of the other countries bombed by bombs supplied by him.

Over 20,000 Palestinians killed or injured since the day he was elected and he never said a word, except to defend Israel.

Some man he is...........

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/us-dropped-23144-bombs-muslim-majority-countries-2015
I have no interest in defending Obama but on the list of countries on that link would you have him pull the plug on those wars that were started prior to his coming into office?

Which wars were started prior to him becoming President?
Afghanistan and Iraq.

Only 2 yet he started wars in more countries than Bush and Blair..........

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General discussion / Re: What do you think of Obama ?
« on: April 11, 2016, 04:48:52 PM »
Anyone with any decency or respect for humanity would have no respect for Obama,
a man with the blood of thousands on his hands.
Which countries' people are you referring to?

Take your pick from any of the countries that he bombed over 22,000 times last year alone,
or any of the other countries bombed by bombs supplied by him.

Over 20,000 Palestinians killed or injured since the day he was elected and he never said a word, except to defend Israel.

Some man he is...........

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/us-dropped-23144-bombs-muslim-majority-countries-2015
I have no interest in defending Obama but on the list of countries on that link would you have him pull the plug on those wars that were started prior to his coming into office?

Which wars were started prior to him becoming President?

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General discussion / Re: What do you think of Obama ?
« on: April 11, 2016, 04:20:14 PM »
Anyone with any decency or respect for humanity would have no respect for Obama,
a man with the blood of thousands on his hands.
Which countries' people are you referring to?

Take your pick from any of the countries that he bombed over 22,000 times last year alone,
or any of the other countries bombed by bombs supplied by him.

Over 20,000 Palestinians killed or injured since the day he was elected and he never said a word, except to defend Israel.

Some man he is...........

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/us-dropped-23144-bombs-muslim-majority-countries-2015

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General discussion / Re: What do you think of Obama ?
« on: April 11, 2016, 04:00:57 PM »
Anyone with any decency or respect for humanity would have no respect for Obama,
a man with the blood of thousands on his hands.

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General discussion / Re: driving debate
« on: April 11, 2016, 03:52:32 PM »
Last Friday there was a serious accident on the M1 between Moira and Lurgan, in which an eldery woman was killed.
In what can only be described as selfish mindless behaviour, motorists decided to drive up the hard shoulder in the hope
of skipping the que. Did any of them even stop for a moment and think that that emergency services needed to use the
hard shoulder in order to reach the scene of an accident?
 
Thankfully someone took matters into their own hands and stopped them in their tracks, and some one took a picture and expressed his feelings........

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Chris Rowan
8 April ·
 
Just sat for 2 hours on the M1 between Sprucefield and Moira. Anybody who knows where I live will vouch that it usually takes 15-20 minutes to get home to my house from Sprucefield. 2 hours for 10 miles.
That's all well and good.
BUT THIS GUY. Well, he's a modern-day super hero.
All of the cars who didn't have the patience decided to try drive up the hard shoulder and skip ALL of the traffic while all other cars, myself included, beeped and screamed. This Lorry driver, took matters upon himself and blocked BOTH lanes (hard shoulder included), stopping the cars in the hard shoulder from getting up the motorway any quicker than the rest of us.
I salute you sir, you made a very miserable 2 hours somewhat tolerable.

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General discussion / Re: Lawn mowers
« on: March 15, 2016, 08:03:52 PM »
Cheers for the advise. Was looking at this one, https://www.gumtree.com/p/lawnmowers-trimmers/greenhill-42-ride-on-lawnmower-lawn-mower/1157771225

But not familiar with Greenhill brand? anyone any experience of them? What should be the main pointers I'm looking for? Hydrostatic, 3 in 1 (How useful is that here? Does it not require it to be really dry to mulch?) etc?

Also any brands to completely avoid? There seems to be a lot of brands out there at the minute.

That's a fine looking mower, and it should last you a long time.

They are also fantastic for collecting leaves in the autumn if you have many tress about !!

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General discussion / Re: Lawn mowers
« on: March 14, 2016, 09:59:47 PM »
1st cut done today. Have a ride on and it makes mowing the lawn enjoyable.
Go for a hydrostatic one as they are the way to go.
Bought a new one 9 years ago and its as good as the day I bought it.
Buy new if you can.

 What make and HP is your ride on?

Couldn't find an image of mine, but it's similar to this.

18 HP and 102" cut, twin blade. Rear discharge and a pull of the handle empties the box.

I dump the grass on a bit of old ground and never have to get off the mower from start to finish.

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