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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: August 26, 2016, 10:13:17 AM »
Promotional video from the "Northern Ireland friends of Israel"  where they use the meeting with
former Sinn Fein Lord Mayor Máirtín Ó Muilleoir and two Israeli students who toured Northern Ireland
in a bid to combat the Palestinian call for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions of Israel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywbdtJNtVao


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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: August 25, 2016, 02:58:37 PM »
Are Sinn Fein now pro-Israeli?

They are riding 2 horses at once on the Palestine / Israel question.

One the one hand they want their voters and supporters to believe they are very much pro Palestinian, and then on the other, they are trying to impress their donors and friends in the US that they are been even handed.

Like everything else in their world, they stand for nothing and fall for everything.....
So in other words they're just doing what political parties do?

Indeed............ 

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: August 25, 2016, 01:43:32 PM »
"Is that the best you can come up with?"

Not at all, just spotted it on Twitter over lunch. As I said, the PLO are meeting with the Israeli's and one of the most prominent Hamas leaders yesterday seems to be endorsing Pat Sheenan's visit. However I do apologise and bow to your greater insight to all things Palestinian.

Thanks for the apology........

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: August 25, 2016, 01:26:10 PM »
Seems not everyone is singing off Dixies hymn-sheet though

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Is that the best you can come up with?

This is a statement from the PFLP whose member Bilal Kayed just ended a 71 day hunger strike.

In response to the hole that Sinn Fein found themselves in, they sent 2 reps to meet with his family and the PFLP. 

While they were there, the PFLP had this to say:

"Today, we call upon all supporters and friends of Palestine to intensify the struggle to support Bilal in this critical battle for freedom and at this time of great urgency to defend his life. He has pledged to continue this battle until freedom or death. We see you in Ireland and the immense love and dedication that you have for the Palestinian prisoners as well as your own imprisoned comrades, from the beautiful mural on the International Wall in Belfast that highlights our common struggle to the protests from Dublin to Derry to Wicklow to Belfast and elsewhere throughout the country, from the voices inside prison expressing their support for Bilal and his comrades.

This is the time to intensify the boycott of Israel and reject normalization with Israel, including Israeli state partnerships and sponsorships, arms trade with Israel, and meetings with Israel's right-wing and genocidal government and political parties.

The Palestinian prisoners have repeatedly urged the intensification of the boycott of Israel. To free the prisoners, to save Bilal, to support the Palestinian cause - international isolation of the occupier is necessary.

Freedom for Bilal and all Palestinian prisoners! Freedom for Irish republican prisoners! On the road to liberation!"



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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: August 25, 2016, 12:21:08 PM »
Are Sinn Fein now pro-Israeli?

They are riding 2 horses at once on the Palestine / Israel question.

One the one hand they want their voters and supporters to believe they are very much pro Palestinian, and then on the other, they are trying to impress their donors and friends in the US that they are been even handed.

Like everything else in their world, they stand for nothing and fall for everything.....

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: August 25, 2016, 11:08:45 AM »
Gerry Adams sending Christams cards to the Israeli Ambassador in Ireland....

Isn't he the great friend of Palestine eh?

http://clareherald.com/2016/08/mckee-comments-criticised-by-israeli-group/

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: August 24, 2016, 09:50:49 PM »
And the travelling circus has got to Israel and the West Bank, only this time Pat Sheehan has brought along Jeffrey Donaldson.......

http://alhourriah.org/english/article/36486


And in the past 30 minutes, Pat has claimed that the people he and his party entertained several times in Ireland wont allow him into Gaza.

http://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/41294


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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: August 20, 2016, 06:55:07 PM »
Tell me about their role in the genocide of Palestinians. The two students who visited Belfast in 2013. Tell me what they specifically have done. You're just embarrassing yourself now tarring everyone with the same brush.

Why do you keep asking me about Sinn Fein? I'm tackling your hypocrisy. You think calling out blind bigotry is nonsense?! Evidently I've touched a nerve.

May I suggest that you read this about their visit, and why they were really here.

"Two Israeli schoolchildren have toured Northern Ireland in a bid to combat anti-Israel activity.

Yedida Jacobs and Paz Ben-Nissan, both 17, spoke to youth groups and school pupils and met political leaders during the five-day visit. They stressed the need for people to talk about the Middle East conflict, and repeatedly said they were opposed to boycotts.

Their trip was co-ordinated by the Northern Ireland Friends of Israel (Nifi) advocacy group as a response to an academic boycott of Israel imposed by the Teachers Union of Ireland in April."


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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: August 20, 2016, 05:11:53 PM »
I don't give a flying f**k who or what they are now. Your issue was with them being received in 2013 as 17 kids. Or are you now denying they were kids? All Israelis are just opposite waiting to grow up, is that it?

So you don't care about their role in the ongoing genocide against the Palestinian people ?

You don't care that Sinn Fein calls for an academic boycott, yet entertain the very same people who came to oppose it?

Do you really give a flying shit about the PAlestinians or are you just trying to find some kind of mud to stick to me?

Bigger and braver people before you tried this nonsense on me, and they have all faile.

You too have failed so go climb under your rock son.

If you have anything further personal to say to me, please show a pair of balls and put your name to it.

Ok?

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: August 20, 2016, 04:53:01 PM »
So, the articles you've produced say they were here to encourage dialogue, to promote peace. Your articles, not mine. Where does it say anything about "white washing"?

Your f**king embarrassing yourself here. You're not racist yet happily promote racism against a pair of kids. Well done you.

Can you show me any evidence of Israel encouraging dialogue and promoting peace in Palestine as it carries out it's ongoing policy of Genocide?

Did I not clearly state in the article that they were here to combat the BDS movement?

And have I not clearly stated that Sinn Fein are calling for the very same Boycott that they are here to oppose?

As for you calling them a pair of kids, at this stage in their lives they are members of the IDF and we all know what they are up to in occupied Palestine..........

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: August 20, 2016, 04:12:09 PM »
Once again Gallsman, this is an Israeli exercise in white washing their crimes and making them look acceptable to the world.
This is what "Northern Ireland Friends Of Israel" had to say about the trip:

Belfast Lord Mayor, Councillor Máirtín Ó Muilleoir, welcomed student visitors from Israel to City Hall on Tuesday 12 November. The two students were in Belfast to meet young people from across the city in a visit organised by Northern Ireland Friends of Israel. The aim of the visit is to promote dialogue between young people in Northern Ireland and Israel. The Lord Mayor is pictured with Paz Ben-Nissan (on the Lord Mayor’s left) and Yedida Jacobs.

https://nifriendsofisrael.wordpress.com/2013/11/25/israeli-students-welcomed-in-belfast/

This was how the Jewish Chronicle had to say about their visit:

Israeli teens counter ‘stupid’ Irish boycott call

By Marcus Dysch, November 14, 2013

Two Israeli schoolchildren have toured Northern Ireland in a bid to combat anti-Israel activity.

Yedida Jacobs and Paz Ben-Nissan, both 17, spoke to youth groups and school pupils and met political leaders during the five-day visit. They stressed the need for people to talk about the Middle East conflict, and repeatedly said they were opposed to boycotts.

Their trip was co-ordinated by the Northern Ireland Friends of Israel (Nifi) advocacy group as a response to an academic boycott of Israel imposed by the Teachers Union of Ireland in April.

As part of the ban, union members voted to end educational exchanges between Israeli and Irish pupils.

Miss Jacobs, a biochemistry student from Jerusalem, said: “Without taking part in dialogue, we cannot move forward. Paz and I are too young even to vote; we cannot influence the situation in Israel. A boycott on us seems unfair.”

On Monday evening, around 300 people, including Secretary of State for Northern Ireland Theresa Villiers and members of the Northern Ireland Assembly, attended a Kristallnacht memorial event at Belfast Synagogue at which the Israeli students spoke.

Mr Ben-Nissan, from Ramot Meir, in central Israel, said: “The TUI has crossed the line by trying to boycott schools. It’s stupid of them. We need dialogue and this has been the best way to achieve it.”

A Nifi spokesman said: “The TUI move flies in the face of our own experience of peace-building in Northern Ireland. But the reaction to the boycott call has been a near unanimous resolve to engage with young people in the cause of peace.”

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/113184/israeli-teens-counter-stupid%E2%80%99-irish-boycott-call

This is the Belfast Telegraph reporting on their visit

 A teachers' union has been criticised for calling for an academic boycott of Israel as students from the Jewish state met local political representatives at Stormont yesterday.

Yedida Jacobs and Paz Ben-Nissan will also meet Belfast Lord Mayor Mairtin O Muilleoir at City Hall this morning.

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The 17-year-olds are on a whistle-stop tour of the province organised by Northern Ireland Friends of Israel.

Steven Jaffe, the group's co-chairman, used the visit to highlight a call by the Republic's Teachers' Union of Ireland for an academic boycott of Israel.

The union called for a cessation of all cultural and academic collaboration between Israel and Ireland, including student exchanges.

Mr Jaffe said the call was a bid to ban any cultural exchanges between the two countries, irrespective of the politics of the individuals involved.

Yedida and Paz said they could not understand the move by the teaching union.
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Asked about their impressions, Yedida said: "I was surprised to see how alive the conflict still is here – to see the graffiti. We have heard that there are Israeli and Palestinian flags here, which is strange.

"But it's been very inspiring to see that people here have a lot of hope for peace," she added.

Asked what their hopes are for their country, Yedida and Paz replied: "To have peace in the region."

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/education/israeli-students-in-belfast-visit-as-teaching-unions-call-for-boycott-criticised-29745533.html

Is that enough evidence for you on why they were here, and how Marty boy crossed the picket line and allowed himself and his party to be used as a tool for white washing Israel ?

MArty boy crossed the picket line and I'm putting my years of solidarity work on the line in saying that. And I stand over that statement, and you can tell Marty boy that from me if you know him.

And the same for any of the other quislings in the party who have crossed the picket line in entertaining the people responsible for the on going genocide in Palestine.

I'm no racist, and don't ever tell me to shut the f**k up without putting your name to it.

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: August 20, 2016, 03:29:21 PM »
You still haven't told me - what is your problem with someone (yes Sinn Fein politicians included) meeting some students who happen to be Israeli, other than the fact they are Israeli?

As for the academic boycott, perhaps you can clarify the trend of the boycott a little bit. What exactly does it mean? By meeting two students (MO'M is a smart guy but I doubt he was collaborating on nuclear research with them), what term of the boycott has been breached?

I've a lot of time for your efforts Dixie and God knows I agree with you the vast majority of the time, but this is the kind of racist shite that can really betray a good cause.

Can you please explain to me how i'm been racist? Do you understand the principles of the BDS movement?

Because you are advocating shunning people (people, Dixie. Human beings. Not prime ministers, not IDF generals. Students. Kids.) for no other reason than the fact they are Israeli. Do you not think that's racist?

Let me spell it out for you. These 2 students were in Belfast in conjunction with "Northern Ireland Friends Of Israel", with the approval no doubt of the Israeli Government. They were here on a white washing exercise. This is what Israel do.

Why are Sinn Fein and Marty boy playing these games?

Why are they always involved in "Northern Ireland Friends Of Israel" events and meetings with Israeli Ambassadors, Deputy Ambassadors, and officials? And why are they entertaining Netanyahu's zionist party members on a regular basis?

If these had of been 2 students from Israel who walked in of the street on holiday then that would be a different story.

However, they were here on official Israeli white washing business and Marty boy stepped over the picket line.



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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: August 20, 2016, 02:44:46 PM »
Israeli universities are major, willing and persistent accomplices in Israel’s regime of occupation, settler-colonialism and apartheid.

They are involved in developing weapon systems and military doctrines deployed in Israel’s recent war crimes in Lebanon and Gaza, justifying the ongoing colonization of Palestinian land, rationalizing gradual ethnic cleansing of indigenous Palestinians, providing moral justification for extra-judicial killings, systematically discriminating against “non-Jewish” students, and other implicit and explicit violations of human rights and international law.

To end this complicity in Israel’s violations of international law, Palestinian civil society has called for an academic boycott of complicit Israeli academic institutions. Refusing to normalize oppression, many academic associations, student governments and unions as well as thousands of international academics now support the academic boycott of Israel.

https://bdsmovement.net/academic-boycott

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: August 20, 2016, 02:41:59 PM »
You still haven't told me - what is your problem with someone (yes Sinn Fein politicians included) meeting some students who happen to be Israeli, other than the fact they are Israeli?

As for the academic boycott, perhaps you can clarify the trend of the boycott a little bit. What exactly does it mean? By meeting two students (MO'M is a smart guy but I doubt he was collaborating on nuclear research with them), what term of the boycott has been breached?

I've a lot of time for your efforts Dixie and God knows I agree with you the vast majority of the time, but this is the kind of racist shite that can really betray a good cause.

Can you please explain to me how i'm been racist? Do you understand the principles of the BDS movement?

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: August 20, 2016, 01:26:23 PM »
The article you linked to showed some students meeting with then Lord Mayor of Belfast MO'M. That wasn't 2016 and the article mentions nothing about Likud whatsoever. You referenced this specific article, so obviously something in it has upset you. Again I ask, what? Man meets Israelis?

Sorry, I had to go back 6 pages and after everything that has been going on in the past week i'm sure you will forgive me
for not catching your drift seeing as we were still talking about the lads with the IDF / Likud members in the photo.....

So, to address this meeting with the soon to be former Finance Minister and 2 Israeli students,, let me refer you to what Sinn Fein had to say no sooner than this week while on a damage limitation / PR exercise in Palestine on an Academic Boycott of Israel,  among other things........

Well no, not really. I made it clear at the outset that I wasn't talking about the IDF or politicians from Likud or any other party. You still decided to go on your rant about Sinn Fein's betrayal of the Palestinian people (which I don't dispute) and blather on about Zionists.

Take a step back. Who gives a f**k whether it was organised by NI Friends of Israel, Combat 18, the DUP or whoever, some students are visiting Belfast. Referring only to this specific activity, you think there's a problem here because it's crossing the picket line of an academic boycott? You don't think there might be problems with that aspect of the boycott at all, where a politician and statesman "should" refuse to meet with a couple of students ON THE SOLE GROUNDS that they are Israeli?! Does that not strike you as massively racist, no?!

So, if i'm racist for calling for the boycott of 2 Israeli students visiting on a white washing exercise, then what does that
make everyone else who is against breaking the academic boycott? Including Sinn Fein who are calling for an academic boycott?

As I have stated before, Sinn Fein are seriously exposed on something very very serious in not only the eyes of their supporters, but the Palestinians. They sold out......

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