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General discussion / Re: The Palestine thread
« on: Today at 02:48:13 AM »
Fatah and Hamas agree landmark pact after seven-year rift




The two main rival Palestinian factions have signed an accord designed to end seven years of sometimes violent division, paving the way for elections later in the year and the formation of a unity government within weeks.

The move, after a day of talks between Hamas and Fatah in Gaza that lasted until three in the morning, comes less than a week before the expiry of the deadline for US-sponsored peace talks between Israel and the Palestinian Authority on 29 April and is certain to complicate US efforts to seek another nine-month extension to those talks.

Israel immediately responded by saying the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, was moving to peace with Hamas instead of peace with Israel. "He has to choose," said the prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu. "Does he want peace with Hamas or peace with Israel? You can have one but not the other. I hope he chooses peace, so far he hasn't done so."

After the agreement was announced, Israel cancelled a planned session of peace negotiations with the Palestinians. It also launched an air strike on a site in the north of the Gaza Strip, wounding 12 people including children, which underscored the deep mutual suspicion and hostility that persists. Speaking in Ramallah in the West Bank, Abbas said in his view the pact with Hamas did not contradict the peace talks he was pursuing with Israel, adding that an independent state living peacefully alongside Israel remained his goal.

The agreement, signed in Gaza City on Wednesday by Ismail Haniyeh, the prime minister of Hamas, and a senior Palestinian Liberation Organisation delegation dispatched by Abbas marks the latest attempt in three years of efforts to end the discord between the two factions.

A packed news conference in Gaza in a hall adjoining Haniyeh's home in Beach refugee camp cheered as he announced the deal to end the split between the two groups and between Gaza and the West Bank. "This is the good news we have to tell the people: the era of discord is ended," Haniyeh said.

Although there have been failed attempts to end the rift before, this agreement comes with both factions facing internal problems. Hamas has become ever more isolated internationally, particularly since the like-minded Muslim Brotherhood was ousted in Egypt last year. The new military-led authorities in Cairo have cracked down on the smuggling tunnels into Gaza.

Fatah and Abbas have been damaged by the failure of peace negotiations to deliver results amid continuing Israeli settlement building, all of which has pushed the issue of reconciliation up the agenda.

Despite talk before the announcement about the quick formation of a national unity government and a decree for elections, the wording of the agreement was less cut and dried – suggesting a possible timing for elections in at "least six months" after talks to try to form a new government by agreement.

The statement was also not clear whether Hamas figures would be represented in any new government – which could lead to a cut in EU and US funding. Sceptics, however, noted that similar agreements between the two sides – under Arab sponsorship – have been reached in the past but never implemented.

In Washington state department spokesperson Jen Psaki said the US was troubled by the announcement, which "could seriously complicate" negotiations to extend peace negotiations. "This certainly is disappointing and raises concerns about our efforts to extend the negotiations," she said.

"It is hard to see how Israel can be expected to negotiate with a government that doesn't believe in its right to exist." She also indicated there could be broader implications for an array of US policies towards Palestine, including aid, should Hamas enter into government without abiding a set of principles, including recognition of Israel, agreement to previous agreements, and a commitment to non-violence, dictated by Washington.

Secretary of state John Kerry spoke on the phone with Netanyahu on Tuesday, while other senior US diplomats on the ground have spoken with Mahmoud Abbas.

The root of recent conflict between the two largest Palestinian movements follows the 2006 elections which Hamas won but the west, Israel and Abbas largely refused to recognise. Hamas asserted its control of Gaza in 2007 leaving Abbas in charge of only parts of the West Bank. Since then both sides have become entrenched in their territories, setting up respective governments and their own security forces, and arresting their rivals.

Key stumbling blocks in previous attempts at reconciliation have been focused on security forces and on the Palestinian Authority's security co-operation arrangements on the West Bank that have seen the authority arrest and jail members of Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

There was no mention in the announcement that security co-operation with Israel would change. Despite Netanyahu's comments, later in the day a senior Israeli official was more cautious about the implications of the Gaza deal saying Netanyahu office was consulting on it. prime minister's office is consulting tonight the meaning of it. It does not bode well but for the moment the policy is wait and see."


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/23/plo-hamas-agree-unity-pact-form-government

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: April 20, 2014, 08:39:15 PM »
If I can't swing it to be in Liverpool for next Sunday, I will plan to be there for the Newcastle game.

Ticket or no ticket, it could still be a good day to be around.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: April 20, 2014, 07:56:30 PM »
What would the possibility be of getting a ticket for any of the 3 remaining games?

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: April 20, 2014, 02:24:48 PM »
Mighty result and what a game for Sterling. Well deserved Man Of The Match award.

11 wins on the trot is some achievement and they must fancy their chances to make it 12
next week.

It sure has been some week for Liverpool

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Never mind golf,we're now the football managers capital of the world! This is bound to increase tourism ;D

And no doubt good for the peace process

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread
« on: April 20, 2014, 01:07:43 AM »
Some posters were talking about "squeaky bum time" over the past couple of weeks. That time has now arrived. Huge momentum shift today and all the pressure heaped firmly on Liverpool. No excuses now - it is Liverpool's to lose for the first time. Serious test of mettle now.

What a story for Gerrard if they pull it off.


FNALLY - someone admitting it ! Ive had Liverpool fans still talking about the 4th Champions League spot as last month !

ten wins in a row-  a lot against top teams too , not just pure shite - and a match tomorrow against 4th from bottom Norwich ! whats the panic

Being from Mayo, I still expect the worst.

Being from Tyrone, we expect the best....

Mind you, Rodgers is from Antrim !!


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Tony, you will be some pup when you grow a tail...............

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General discussion / Re: Death Notices
« on: April 17, 2014, 09:28:56 PM »
Nobel laureate Gabriel Garcia Marquez has died. He was 87.

Garcia Marquez's magical realist novels and short stories exposed tens of millions of readers to Latin America's passion, superstition, violence and inequality. Widely considered the most popular Spanish-language writer since Miguel de Cervantes in the 17th century, Garcia Marquez achieved literary celebrity that spawned comparisons to Mark Twain and Charles Dickens.

His flamboyant and melancholy works outsold everything published in Spanish except the Bible. The epic 1967 novel "One Hundred Years of Solitude sold more than 50 million copies in more than 25 languages.

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General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« on: April 16, 2014, 12:25:02 AM »
The Conservative mayor of Swindon has resigned after he called disabled people "Mongols" and questioned whether they should be allowed to have sex.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/04/15/swindon-mayor-nick-martin-mongols-resigns_n_5151125.html

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General discussion / Re: The Palestine thread
« on: April 15, 2014, 12:40:36 PM »
On Monday, Israeli forces blocked all main entrances to the village of Nabi Saleh, and attacked anyone who attempted to enter or leave the village.

The Israeli regime imposed the blockade on the village after declaring it a ‘military closed zone.’ Residents of the village complain that they are facing a humanitarian crisis after the blockade.

http://www.presstv.com/detail/2014/04/14/358566/israel-continues-siege-on-wb-village/

Israeli occupation forces this morning demolished a number of water wells and agriculture infrastructure in Hebron, handed over demolition orders to owners of two residential houses in Bethlehem.

Local Palestinian sources said that the Israeli forces invaded the Palestinian neighbourhood of Abulhawa in Hebron.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/10785-israel-demolishes-wells-in-hebron

Thousands of Palestinians living in the Shuafat refugee camp, which is located in East Jerusalem, have been living without running water for more than a month, due to the failure of the Israeli municipality in the western part of the holy city to supply the necessary water.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/10783-palestinian-refugees-in-jerusalem-without-water-for-more-than-a-month

A 44-year-old Palestinian woman Nuha Mohammed Qatamesh died on Monday after inhaling tear gas fired by Israeli occupation forces in al-Jadawel area, which is located between Aida refugee camp and Beit Jala, west of the West Bank city of Bethlehem.

A medical source in Beit Jala Government Hospital said that Qatamesh died after she inhaled tear gas fired by Israeli forces during clashes that erupted Monday evening in Aida camp.

http://english.pnn.ps/index.php/politics/7358-palestinian-woman-dies-of-inhaling-israeli-tear-gas-in-bethlehem

The University of Haifa has launched an academic course to combat the online "delegitimization of Israel", in what it claims to be a "first" for academia. In a press release dated 30 March, the University proudly describes the four credit course, offered by the Department of Multi-Disciplinary Studies, as preparing "students to be unofficial 'ambassadors' for Israel on the Internet".

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/blogs/politics/10901-haifa-university-launches-course-in-pro-israel-propaganda

As Christians get ready to celebrate Easter, Palestinian Christians living in the West Bank and Gaza Strip are envious of fellow Christians from all over the world who are able to visit Jerusalem’s holy Christian sites and worship freely while they cannot.

Since Israel cut off East Jerusalem from the rest of the occupied Palestinian territories in the early 1990s, Palestinian residents of the West Bank and Gaza Strip have been required to get Israeli army permission before they can enter Jerusalem.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2011/04/west-bank-palestinian-christians-denied-access-to-holy-places-in-jerusalem-during-easter.html#sthash.AygVOeMk.dpuf

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: April 13, 2014, 10:22:38 PM »
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Once upon a time Sinn Fein stood for peace with justice.

Now they stand for votes........

THis is the kind of manure often associated with this topic. People want peace, and justice, so there is no great conflict between the two objectives.

Can you give us any examples of their quest for Justice?

mcGurks,Ballymurphy,Finucane for a start.Dublin and Monaghan,Loughinisland.How many do you want now tell us what causes the brother in laws are involved in.

Well Dixie what is your answer?


Troubles amnesty should apply to all, says Sinn Fein MP


http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/crime/article4056968.ece

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: April 13, 2014, 09:16:20 PM »
People want.. Peace and prosperity.. Britain is booming.. They will share they always do. Irish companies will benefit from bettet relations its all good. Sinn fein  must move with the times

And what about the victims seeking justice?

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: April 13, 2014, 09:07:25 PM »
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Once upon a time Sinn Fein stood for peace with justice.

Now they stand for votes........

THis is the kind of manure often associated with this topic. People want peace, and justice, so there is no great conflict between the two objectives.

Can you give us any examples of their quest for Justice?

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: April 13, 2014, 08:27:42 PM »
As the dust settles on a week that the media and politicians tells us that it was a great week for Ireland and British relations, its hard to overlook the obvious.

When the Mrs Windsor planned to visit Ireland a few years ago, SF decided to boycott her visit, saying:

 "Until there is complete withdrawal of the British military and the British administration from Ireland, and until there is justice and truth for victims of collusion, no official welcome should be accorded to any officer of the British armed forces of any rank,"

This position reflected the majority view of SF voters and supporters. Then, as Martin McGuinness decided to run for the vacant President of Ireland post, they got hammered in the media as Martin was hit with "Will you meet the Queen?"

Having lost in the election, Sinn Fein realised they needed to change tact, and low and behold, an event was staged at the Lyric Theatre in Belfast in which McGuinness shook hands with Mrs Windsor, and in some way sanitized the differences.

The final cog in the wheel was the antics of this week.

Sinn Fein announced that Martin would attend the state dinner and wear periodic costume and as the band played God save the Queen, he would raise his glass to her in a toast proposed by the President of Ireland.

On the day Sinn Fein raised their glass to Mrs Windsor, they issued a statement calling for an Amnesty for anyone involved in pre '98 "crimes".

In effect, they called for no prosecutions for the actions of the British Government during the "Troubles".

Given that the recent case of John Downey, showed how Sinn Fein did a deal to ensure that those close to them were immune to prosecution, we can only assume that murders carried out by the British Establishment will be excused in the same way.

As Irish men and women, including many members of Sinn Fein, celebrated the past weeks pageantry, thousands of families both here and across the world still suffer as the people who celebrate this nonsense oppose inquires into how their loved ones died, and who was responsible.

Sinn Fein sold the participation of McGuinness at Windsor at strep forward for peace. They didn't tell their followers that that as well as that participation, several MPs would take their seats in Westminster and the house of Lords as Michael D Higgins addressed both Houses.

Plus, they would also join an event at Windsor castle where they they would be greeted by Mrs Windsor.

What Sinn Fein did this week in raising their glass to Mrs Windsor is par for the course. They are hell bent on power, votes acceptance and money.

The next stunt we will see is the visit of the Pope to Belfast.

Robinson, like McGuinness with Mrs Windsor, will bow down as he meets the Pope,
in advancement of the "peace process. "

Once upon a time Sinn Fein stood for peace with justice.

Now they stand for votes........

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« on: April 13, 2014, 11:47:39 AM »
Given the success of the week, and acceptance at the top table in Windsor, I suppose its
"Victory to the Banquet Men"

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